Controversial General Political Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

The worst of these quotes was that they defamed this was was this:

“By putting tribal allegiance to Israel over fundamental commitment to universal human rights, however, Zionist Jewish organizations in the US and the West in general consciously abet in propagating the racist, indeed anti-Semitic, myth that Israel speaks on behalf of the entire world Jewry and that it is entitled to do so. Reducing Jews to a monolithic group that thinks alike and that is automatically expected to ignore suffering by other humans when the oppressors are themselves Jewish is not only anti-semitic [sic]; it is categorically false and deceptive.”

• Omar Barghouti (co-founder of Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions Movement), August 2011

This statement is 100% true yet they list it as antisemitism and show it alongside neo nazi quotes.

These fuckers are literally pushing this agenda on the backs of real Jewish suffering from antisemitism and it honestly infuriated me.

Yes, turning a blind eye to a country’s war crimes because they are the same ethnicity/religion as you is the definition of tribalism.

its true when Turks deny the Armenian genocide, or when Russians support the war in Ukraine.

But no the ADL feels the need to hold Jews to a completely different standard.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

you miss a lot of historical info, context, and facts that led up to the nakba

Like?

 

[Logiko]

yeah I didn't know that
@Logiko "take your meds" wasn't personally at you or your condition, sorry if you felt that way.

Its ok but please. get that freaking flag out of Luffy's hand. Luffy is fighting against oppression. You are making him doing the exact opposite here. That's a shame for a One Piece fan.

 

[Okamakama]

Ahahaha.
Two sides. You are just willingly ignorant.
You have not addressed any of the causes of Hamas existancd i the first place, but it's probably because you cannot really grasp it because you have a limited understand of reality, what we could refer as an useful idiot.
Hopefully you'll realise one day that you were saying that genocide perpetrators and the one defending againdt it are not equal.
But i doubt it.

Given that you're literally just parroting the view points of other people, I feel disinclined to engage in that topic, but sure. The funding of Hamas is irrelevant. Ultimately it's not like they are plants. These people were not just placed there by Israel for a false flag. They held these radical views. They desired blood and violence. They are responsible for their actions. If anything, it is indicative of the culture in the area and what a Palestinian group will do if they have a little tiny bit of power. They'll attack.

I have acknowledged that the IDF is committing evil acts upon Palestine.
I also believe that Palestine would commit evil acts of Israel if they had any sort of power.

Welcome to the world of religious zealotry.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Psychophobia now ?

Stop making up words

 

[Logiko]

Stop making up words

Educate yourself about this

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Given that you're literally just parroting the view points of other people, I feel disinclined to engage in that topic, but sure. The funding of Hamas is irrelevant. Ultimately it's not like they are plants. These people were not just placed there by Israel for a false flag. They held these radical views. They desired blood and violence. They are responsible for their actions. If anything, it is indicative of the culture in the area and what a Palestinian group will do if they have a little tiny bit of power. They'll attack.

I have acknowledged that the IDF is committing evil acts upon Palestine.
I also believe that Palestine would commit evil acts of Israel if they had any sort of power.

Welcome to the world of religious zealotry.

Not worth engaging in coversation with retards like you.
Go chase foreigner because they steal UK culture mate, you'll have better luck with that.

 

[Okamakama]

Not worth engaging in coversation with retards like you.
Go chase foreigner because they steal UK culture mate, you'll have better luck with that.

The moment you are actually hit with the fact that Islam is not the religion of peace you have a meltdown.
Are all Muslims bad? No.
Is there real religious hatred between Jews and Muslims these days? Absolutely. Just listen to Hasan Piker's audience if you want a tiny taste of it.
Palastine would love to be in Israel's position, of that I have no doubt. Their in-country propaganda is evident enough. Look it up, if you can stomach it.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Its ok but please. get that freaking flag out of Luffy's hand. Luffy is fighting against oppression. You are making him doing the exact opposite here. That's a shame for a One Piece fan.

I checked his signature now🙈
A week or so ago another guy posted the same panel with a Palestinian flag edited it.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

The moment you are actually hit with the fact that Islam is not the religion of peace you have a meltdown.
Are all Muslims bad? No.
Is there real religious hatred between Jews and Muslims these days? Absolutely. Just listen to Hasan Piker's audience if you want a tiny taste of it.
Palastine would love to be in Israel's position, of that I have no doubt. Their in-country propaganda is evident enough. Look it up, if you can stomach it.

Lol you are a retard.
You ignore 70 years of history.
Plenty of pacific muslim country are pacific. Before the west destabilised them, of course.
Open a book you absolute buffon.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Lol you are a retard.
You ignore 70 years of history.
Plenty of pacific muslim country are pacific. Before the west destabilised them, of course.
Open a book you absolute buffon.

 

[Logiko]

I checked his signature now🙈
A week or so ago another guy posted the same panel with a Palestinian flag edited it.

Which is logical. Palestinians are under the oppression of the Israelian gov. so making Luffy were a Palestinian flag is legitimate. Making him were the flag of the oppressor in the contrary, is spitting to his face and Oda's.

 

[Okamakama]

Lol you are a retard.
You ignore 70 years of history.
Plenty of pacific muslim country are pacific. Before the west destabilised them, of course.
Open a book you absolute buffon.

I ignore nothing.
So long as you pay their taxes for not believing in their holy book and effectively live as lesser citizens, yes, they're very pacifistic.
Unlike yourself, I actually study history. Do you actually understand the history of how Islam was founded? That it was a religion founded by a fucking Warlord?
You're not a buffoon. You're likely just Islamic and defending your faith. I respect that, to a degree. But I think you're categorically wrong.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Which is logical. Palestinians are under the oppression of the Israelian gov. so making Luffy were a Palestinian flag is legitimate. Making him were the flag of the oppressor in the contrary, is spitting to his face and Oda's.

Editing comics for political agenda is so cringe

 

[Mathias]

Logiko has a condition?

Psychosis is one of the harshest mental conditions out there.

 

[Okamakama]

Psychosis is one of the harshest mental conditions out there.

I actually have true empathy for that. I worked with individuals who suffered from many mental conditions -- psychosis was one. My heart goes out to him, but with proper treatment he can be functional. I hope that is the case ^^

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I ignore nothing.
So long as you pay their taxes for not believing in their holy book and effectively live as lesser citizens, yes, they're very pacifistic.
Unlike yourself, I actually study history. Do you actually understand the history of how Islam was founded? That it was a religion founded by a fucking Warlord?
You're not a buffoon. You're likely just Islamic and defending your faith. I respect that, to a degree. But I think you're categorically wrong.

Lol, here is your true colors.
You just hate muslims, that's why you are so balanced.
Could have started with this, because differently from you, i don't wish people death only based om their religion. You were arguing in bad faith to start with.
And this is the last time I will answer you.

 

[Logiko]

Editing comics for political agenda is so cringe

Stories are political. Using them to enhance a political subject is therefore logical.

Psychosis is one of the harshest mental conditions out there.

When I'm trying to work (I always have it open on another screen), Its like a mountain of rock suddenly appears to block my way. I'm simply unable make a move. This is why I'm trying to find a way to bypass that through this forum as I have no problem typing long text here.

I'm good, I just don't have motivation for anything beside posting :/

 

[Okamakama]

Lol, here is your true colors.
You just hate muslims, that's why you are so balanced.
Could have started with this, because differently from you, i don't wish people death only based om their religion. You were arguing in bad faith to start with.
And this is the last time I will answer you.

Like every supporter of a religion you always fall back on "you're a -phobic." My man, I've read the Qu'aran because I wanted to actually have an informed opinion on things. I studied the history of their prophet. What I discovered made me realise that it's a religion born through war. It's one of the only religions I know to have a specific term for committing holy war.

I literally said that Muslims aren't the problem. Religious extremism, on both sides, is. The Jewish faith believes themselves the chosen ones. The children of light. And Islam is built on war. These two have followers that are able to become radicalised and seek the holy land. I held back on judgement until I saw Muslims around the world calling for Jihad. Instead of immediately flocking to this forum, I went out and talked with some of these people. They genuinely believe it is just, not because of the years of oppression, but due to the might of Islam and their desire for it to proliferate.

I am not arguing on bad faith. I am arguing based off informed opinions. You CANNOT claim that religion does not underpin this humanitarian disaster.

You cannot claim that both sides do not hate each other.

Well, you can, but it'd prove your internal biases.

Feel free to never answer me again. You got called out. Ultimately, this is another case of an ingroup pulling rank and defending each other with an iron will. Your religious side can never be wrong...

..it doesn't allow you to be.
And yes. This applies to both the Jewish in this conflict and the Muslims.
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When I'm trying to work (I always have it open on another screen), Its like a mountain of rock suddenly appears to block my way. I'm simply unable make a move. This is why I'm trying to find a way to bypass that through this forum as I have no problem typing long text here.

I'm good, I just don't have motivation for anything beside posting :/

I'm sorry to hear this, honestly. Is it all the psychosis that causes that lack of motivation? I ask because I was once terminally online, and it caused similar symptoms.

I don't really know what to say besides... man, I hope you can start making headway in life.

 

[Logiko]

I'm sorry to hear this, honestly. Is it all the psychosis that causes that lack of motivation? I ask because I was once terminally online, and it caused similar symptoms.

Its seems yes. Depression (when it comes) doesn't help either. But right now I'm mostly fine. It's just a big road block in front of my face. Its mostly frustrating more than anything else as I'm wasting years of my life because of this.

On the bright side, it allows me to have a lot of freetime to learn and educate myself. That's why I'm so adamant on politic and storytelling.