Controversial General Political Discussion

[Mathias]

but with proper treatment he can be functional. I hope that is the case ^^

It's kinda true. Even though treatments do not work on some people.

When I'm trying to work (I always have it open on another screen), Its like a mountain of rock suddenly appears to block my way. I'm simply unable make a move. This is why I'm trying to find a way to bypass that through this forum as I have no problem typing long text here.

I'm good, I just don't have motivation for anything beside posting :/

Well, finding motivation after a "trauma" is hard. Only time can heal from this. And sadly, time isn't always enough

 

[Okamakama]

Its seems yes. Depression (when it comes) doesn't help either. But right now I'm mostly fine. It's just a big road block in front of my face. Its mostly frustrating more than anything else as I'm wasting years of my life because of this.

On the bright side, it permits me to have a lot of freetime to learn and educate myself. That's why I'm so adamant on politic and storytelling.

Try to find a spark in your life (I think you've found one) and focus on moving towards achieving it. You'll find life opening up for you. My life radically changed when I opened my world and found my values and what I want to achieve. These may be different to yours, but I hope your own values can allow you to move forward and thrive. The road to recovery is hard, brother, but I have no doubt that you, and others in your position, can do it.

Stay strong. :)

 

[Logiko]

Try to find a spark in your life (I think you've found one) and focus on moving towards achieving it. You'll find life opening up for you. My life radically changed when I opened my world and found my values and what I want to achieve. These may be different to yours, but I hope your own values can allow you to move forward and thrive. The road to recovery is hard, brother, but I have no doubt that you, and others in your position, can do it.

Stay strong. :)

Yes, I do have a spark or rather a raging fire burning inside.

Thanks for the kind words.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I can’t believe you.

 

[NikaInParis]

Lol, here is your true colors.
You just hate muslims, that's why you are so balanced.
Could have started with this, because differently from you, i don't wish people death only based om their religion. You were arguing in bad faith to start with.
And this is the last time I will answer you.

He showed his true colors a couple of pages ago already
He's just attaining a deeper shade with every new post

 

[Okamakama]

He showed his true colors a couple of pages ago already
He's just attaining a deeper shade with every new post

Easier to paint your opponent a monster, eh?

I do not hate Muslims. But I cannot deny Islam's history.
You certainly can and do, however.
After all, it's justice innit? Sanctioned by god.

The Jewish feel the same in this conflict.

That's what is so sad.
Both groups want each other dead and yet both purport they are the victim.

Welcome to the world of religious zealotry, masquerading as international politics.

 

[Logiko]

Both groups want each other dead and yet both purport they are the victim.

Yes but you need to understand that those are not for the same reason. Even if it is bad, when you live under oppression for more than 50 years, its logical to be angry an wanting your oppressor dead.

The hatred of the Isralians for the palestinian doesn't come from oppresion, it comes from bigotry.

That's why I keep saying that you MUST understand who is in power here and who has the power to end the conflict.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

No I don't suck. I said exactly what I had to say. One Piece stands against oppression and putting a cryptofascist flag in Luffy's hand is spitting to Oda's face.

You do in fact suck AT conveying your argument my G. Everybody agrees. In spite of me agreeing with the subtance of some of your arguments you are terrible at delivering those arguments in a palatable way.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Yes but you need to understand that those are not for the same reason. Even if it is bad, when you live under oppression for more than 50 years, its logical to be angry an wanting your oppressor dead.

The hatred of the Isralians for the palestinian doesn't come from oppresion, it comes from bigotry.

That's why I keep saying that you MUST understand who is in power here and who has the power to end the conflict.

C4N, don't waste your time discussing with donkeys.
He already is saying thay everyone that disagrees with him is muslim or islamic, he is deranged.

 

[Okamakama]

Yes but you need to understand that those are not for the same reason. Even if it is bad, when you live under oppression for more than 50 years, its logical to be angry an wanting your oppressor dead.

The hatred of the Isralians for the palestinian doesn't come from oppresion, it comes from bigotry.

That's why I keep saying that you MUST understand who is in power here and who has the power to end the conflict.

The Israelis hate the Palestinians due to bigotry.
The Palestinians hate the Israelis for the same reason.

Just because one can actually back up their hatred with full force, does not mean the other wouldn't if they could. This is how Hamas happened.
Check Palestinian propaganda (the stuff they produce in Palestine for their children to watch.) It'll enlighten you.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

C4N, don't waste your time discussing with donkeys.
He already is saying thay everyone that disagrees with him is muslim or islamic, he is deranged.

I guess I've been a Muslim extremist this entire time. Death to the west ig.

 

[Roo]

Plenty of pacific muslim country are pacific. Before the west destabilised them, of course.

Name them, the west being an evil boogey man in the MENA is kinda historically inaccurate. That place was always been plagued with wars(like Europe)

 

[Okamakama]

I guess I've been a Muslim extremist this entire time. Death to the west ig.

And you lot called me a useful idiot...
If you support Islam without studying the history... then I am lost for fucking words.

Me calling you Muslim was giving you an out. Most are born into the religion. It's taught as a core value system from a young age. Such indoctrination is hard to be undone.

If you're denying my words then you haven't studied history... fuck.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Like every supporter of a religion you always fall back on "you're a -phobic." My man, I've read the Qu'aran because I wanted to actually have an informed opinion on things. I studied the history of their prophet. What I discovered made me realise that it's a religion born through war. It's one of the only religions I know to have a specific term for committing holy war.

I literally said that Muslims aren't the problem. Religious extremism, on both sides, is. The Jewish faith believes themselves the chosen ones. The children of light. And Islam is built on war. These two have followers that are able to become radicalised and seek the holy land. I held back on judgement until I saw Muslims around the world calling for Jihad. Instead of immediately flocking to this forum, I went out and talked with some of these people. They genuinely believe it is just, not because of the years of oppression, but due to the might of Islam and their desire for it to proliferate.

I'd like to agree with you but literally any religion or movement can be used to wage war and claim supremacy over others.
You seem to have a specific dislike for Islam.

 

[Logiko]

You do in fact suck AT conveying your argument my G. Everybody agrees. In spite of me agreeing with the subtance of some of your arguments you are terrible at delivering those arguments in a palatable way.

That's because you have a bias against me bra. Trust me that in other circle, my arguments are limpid. Its all a matter of perspective.

The Israelis hate the Palestinians due to bigotry.
The Palestinians hate the Israelis for the same reason.

That's where we can't agree. You should come in France, here jew and Muslim for the most part are happy together.

The problem here is geopolitical. Propaganda in the palestinian side, exist because of the oppression, without the oppression and the colonization, there wouldn't be any propaganda against israelians or jews.

Or at least not to that extent.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Name them, the west being an evil boogey man in the MENA is kinda historically inaccurate. That place was always been plagued with wars(like Europe)

I mean, pacific may be an exageration you are right, but they defend their status quo in a similar way that the west does it, not in a secular, draconian way.
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I guess I've been a Muslim extremist this entire time. Death to the west ig.

Maybe the Muslim extremists were the friends we made along the way?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

And you lot called me a useful idiot...
If you support Islam without studying the history... then I am lost for fucking words.

Me calling you Muslim was giving you an out. Most are born into the religion. It's taught as a core value system from a young age. Such indoctrination is hard to be undone.

If you're denying my words then you haven't studied history... fuck.

I am indeed a sunni muslim. Soon I'll come to your home and add the females of your household into my never ending harem.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

pacific

BRUH STOP

 

[Okamakama]

I'd like to agree with you but literally any religion or movement can be used to wage war and claim supremacy over others.
You seem to have a specific dislike for Islam.

I literally critiqued Judaism, my bro. The religion teaches them that they're the chosen ones :'D.

If I have a particular dislike for Islam, it is due to the lies that are spread about it. They are not the religion of peace. Such claims are built on clever sophistry. The idea of killing one being equal to killing all mankind, for example, falls on deaf ears in the eyes of the law of reciprocity.

It is not the religion of peace, and I adamantly stand by that.

All religions can be used for supremacy, you are correct, but in the modern era those religions are Islam and Judaism. I've heard some even call Communism a neo religion, but I'm not willing to go that far.
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I am indeed a sunni muslim. Soon I'll come to your home and add the females of your household into my never ending harem.

Aight. First of all -- nice joke.
Secondly - I wouldn't put such an attempt past someone who has endorsed adultery.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Aight. First of all -- nice joke.
Secondly - I wouldn't put such an attempt past someone who has endorsed adultery.

Dude, how can you be so disingenuous to not understand the implications of a free pass? Now you say I'd kindap women and force them to be my wives? You are such a petty little bitch.

Get over the dua lipa debacle, that's the only thing you retards have against me.