Controversial Why are people in denial about Fuji/Ryo being future Zoro/Sanji victims?

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Cruxroux

#63
Mihawk splits the sky with Fuji
Crocodile splits the island with Ryo

Buggy tries to run away during this but the world believe that this split sky and island is the awakening of buggys cho chop fruit and he gets even higher bounty
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I made theory once.
Fujitora awakening with Gravity fields , like DBZ Gravity Capsule. Mihawk fighting under those conditions.
They split Sky and land into two with final attacks.

Crocodile vs Aramaki.
They fight in a Island.
Turning the half of the island full of desert and remaining half as Rainforest.
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Keep dreaming. If Zoro fights an Admiral Lanji will fight someone vastly weaker like always. And FM isn't the same rank as their underlings. :kobeha:
Gion's codename is Momousagi = Pink Rabbit

Tokikake's codename is Chaton = Brown Pig

Fodder vs Fodder.
:kobeha::kobeha::kobeha:
 
#64
Fujitora literally talked to Akainu post reverie and showed no problem being in the marines and using the children soldier SSGs. Dude just really doesn’t like pirates.
But just tell wich marine has gone further to release slaves we don't know what is his goal Maybe he just want to change the marine inside just have the feeling that there is something inside the marine and the good marines will clash with the bad ones when the truth reveals
 
#65
Zoro Vs Kizaru
Sanji Vs Ryokugyu
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To be fair, let's look at the facts leading up to it with the small reservation of my memory failing me in instances as it has been so long.

Timeskip
Mihawk >> Ivankov (as fighters). Zoro trained under Mihawk, Sanji under Ivankov.

FI
Zoro defeated #1 Hody and #2 Hyouzou.
Sanji with Jinbei tag teamed #3 Wadatsumi.

PH
Zoro no diffed Logia Monet that previously almost defeated Luffy.
Sanji got low diffed by Vergo cracking his leg.

DR
Zoro clashes was about to attack Doflamingo.
Zoro clashed with admiral Fujitora.
Zoro defeated strongest commander Pica.
Sanji got neg diffed by Doflamingo.

WCI
Zoro travelled to Wano where he killed the magistrate.
Sanji mid diffed Yonji.
Sanji was high diffed by Niji.
Sanji was mid diffed by Judge.
Sanji embarrassed himself against Luffy and got no diffed by Namis slap.
Sanji speed blitzed Oven.
Sanji got mid diffed by veteran Daifuku and his Genie in their clash.

Wano
Zoro defeated Killer.
Zoro vs Gyukimaru stopped by Kawamatsu.
Zoro scared off the Yokozuna.
Zoro took 2 of Hawkins lives.
Zoro clashed with Denjiro.
Zoro with Drake defeated Apoo.
Zoro scared off Queen.
Zoro scarred Kaido, took Hakai, made Big Mom unable to use Prometheus by cutting fire.
Zoro defeated King who Queen himself saw as nigh unbeatable.
Sanji clashed with Page One.
Sanji got neg diffed by Black Maria.
Sanji got low diffed by King.
Sanji got low diffed by King and Queen.
Sanji defeated Queen.

You see when you line it up like this it's very clear to see that one progressively beats stronger opponents one after the other while the other guy is used to hype up characters left and right before magically winning against a high bounty threat.
You can't start a post with "to be fair" and be this biased and off the mark.
 
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#66
I hoped for Zoro vs Fujitora but it just runs quite counter to Fuji's ideals and his convictions regarding opposing the World Government through his actions or inaction even while maintaining his position (not to mention his admiration for Luffy who's being built up as a great liberator with his fruit and depiction as Sun God). By final war, Fujitora might not be so rigidly restricted to the Navy at all.

I think Zoro vs Kizaru and Sanji vs Aramaki would be appropriate. I know some people see certain feats and change their perceptions on the respectability of characters but Kizaru was always an opponent both fanbases to an extent expressed interest in having their character face and while I think he could work for either, facing so many number 2's of notable crews and Aramaki seeming so perfect for Sanji and not Zoro, I'll probably be on the Zoro v Kizaru and Sanji v Aramaki train. Hopefully Fuji operates as a more independent but still morally sound character in the final war.

Regardless, I really don't see how anyone loses hypes. Sanji beating Aramaki simply elevates Sanji.
 
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CensoredbyWG

#67
Keep dreaming. If Zoro fights an Admiral Lanji will fight someone vastly weaker like always. And FM isn't the same rank as their underlings. :kobeha:
Zoro and sanji ALWAYS fight the #2 and 3# of the opposite team who are on EQUAL ground.

Luffy gets the leader while zoro and sanji gets commanders.

Zoro WILL never be closer to luffy than he is to sanji.

Commanders dance with commanders FAR AWAY from their captains.
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I agree if Sanji fights an admiral it will be when Zoro fights Mihawk.
Remember that zoro learned ACoA + ACoC in the same night despite NEVER using or even hearding about it, never doubt shonen's capacity of power creeping lol.
 
#68
The guy is obviously twisting the facts and making up stuff to try to make a distinction between them, they hate the fact luffy fights a yonko while zoro fights a yc with sanji, hurts their headcannon.
You forgot zoro and luffy fought yonko and Sanji didn’t huh
 
#69
you are clearly looking at pictures and not reading the story buddy!
  • King's feats and portrayal are far above Queen's
  • Kaidou after saving King tells him he is his right hand man and the both of them formed the Beast Pirates
  • Vivre card says King is the leader of the calamities
I know you would love it if it were not as the manga stated but just accept reality, Zoro and Sanji wont fight the admirals because the Fuji and Aramaki are all on the same level and have the same authority, something that doesnt make sense for Zoro and Sanji's opponent's since there is always a clear distinction that Zoro's opponents are not just stronger but is also ranked higher than Sanji's opponents something that would be impossible to do with the admirals all being the same
Feats go to queen if we're being honest
 
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CensoredbyWG

#70
feel like how Wano ended has plenty to do with it, especially after Lolda purposedly made Kidd and Law overtake Zoro and Lanji in terms of narrative importance by who he had them beat in Onigashima
Any person able to understand the story they are reading knows that law and kid were set to be luffy's equals and WAY more important than zoro and sanji right from the moment where they fought against the navy in sabaody.

Law and kid are luffy's equals who fought a yonko, zoro and sanji are luffy's underlings/inferior crewmates who needed Several power ups to beat mere commanders.
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Crocodile splits the island with Ryo
Perfect way to display logia awakening.
 
#71
Kid King is vastly stronger than Queen, that's why he was the "King" from the start. You can seethe all you want, King is Kaido's rhm and first mate, Queen is a scrub that got oneshotted by a slap and went extreme diff with Chopper. :saden:
 
#72
Any person able to understand the story they are reading knows that law and kid were set to be luffy's equals and WAY more important than zoro and sanji right from the moment where they fought against the navy in sabaody.

Law and kid are luffy's equals who fought a yonko, zoro and sanji are luffy's underlings/inferior crewmates who needed Several power ups to beat mere commanders.
Yes, and?
 
#75
The power creep that Sanji needs to beat an admiral will be ridiculous.
There's no power creep

Sanji =< zoro
Both will be getting PUs against BBP then PUs again to beat Admirals/top tiers

You guys just can't understand OP since you have stupid ideas like "mihawk yonko level, zoro is much above Sanji...King is much above queen" things that Oda never said nor shown
 
#78
you are clearly looking at pictures and not reading the story buddy!
  • King's feats and portrayal are far above Queen's
  • Kaidou after saving King tells him he is his right hand man and the both of them formed the Beast Pirates
  • Vivre card says King is the leader of the calamities
I know you would love it if it were not as the manga stated but just accept reality, Zoro and Sanji wont fight the admirals because the Fuji and Aramaki are all on the same level and have the same authority, something that doesnt make sense for Zoro and Sanji's opponent's since there is always a clear distinction that Zoro's opponents are not just stronger but is also ranked higher than Sanji's opponents something that would be impossible to do with the admirals all being the same
There's an easy solution. Sanji's last enemy stops at an Admiral, Zoro will fight a stronger one after an Admiral. Simple.
What do you think of this?
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To be fair, let's look at the facts leading up to it with the small reservation of my memory failing me in instances as it has been so long.

Timeskip
Mihawk >> Ivankov (as fighters). Zoro trained under Mihawk, Sanji under Ivankov.

FI
Zoro defeated #1 Hody and #2 Hyouzou.
Sanji with Jinbei tag teamed #3 Wadatsumi.

PH
Zoro no diffed Logia Monet that previously almost defeated Luffy.
Sanji got low diffed by Vergo cracking his leg.

DR
Zoro clashes was about to attack Doflamingo.
Zoro clashed with admiral Fujitora.
Zoro defeated strongest commander Pica.
Sanji got neg diffed by Doflamingo.

WCI
Zoro travelled to Wano where he killed the magistrate.
Sanji mid diffed Yonji.
Sanji was high diffed by Niji.
Sanji was mid diffed by Judge.
Sanji embarrassed himself against Luffy and got no diffed by Namis slap.
Sanji speed blitzed Oven.
Sanji got mid diffed by veteran Daifuku and his Genie in their clash.

Wano
Zoro defeated Killer.
Zoro vs Gyukimaru stopped by Kawamatsu.
Zoro scared off the Yokozuna.
Zoro took 2 of Hawkins lives.
Zoro clashed with Denjiro.
Zoro with Drake defeated Apoo.
Zoro scared off Queen.
Zoro scarred Kaido, took Hakai, made Big Mom unable to use Prometheus by cutting fire.
Zoro defeated King who Queen himself saw as nigh unbeatable.
Sanji clashed with Page One.
Sanji got neg diffed by Black Maria.
Sanji got low diffed by King.
Sanji got low diffed by King and Queen.
Sanji defeated Queen.

You see when you line it up like this it's very clear to see that one progressively beats stronger opponents one after the other while the other guy is used to hype up characters left and right before magically winning against a high bounty threat.
You're thinking too highly of him. Sanji did not train under Ivankov. He escaped Kamabakka residents and fight 99 Newkama Masters for recipes.
 
#79
There's an easy solution. Sanji's last enemy stops at an Admiral, Zoro will fight a stronger one after an Admiral. Simple.
What do you think of this?

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You're thinking too highly of him. Sanji did not train under Ivankov. He escaped Kamabakka residents and fight 99 Newkama Masters for recipes.
Both are fighting gorosei or villains above Mihawk at EoS

Zoro ain't having a villain higher than admiral/mihawk while Sanji doesn't
 
#80
There's an easy solution. Sanji's last enemy stops at an Admiral, Zoro will fight a stronger one after an Admiral. Simple.
What do you think of this?
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You're thinking too highly of him. Sanji did not train under Ivankov. He escaped Kamabakka residents and fight 99 Newkama Masters for recipes.
I don't think zoro will have an extra fight but to tell you the truth it is not necessary.
Characters with the same title aren't on the same level and that is proven through all op history.
Ofc sanji's admiral would be op but once again would be a clear difference between him Zoro's admiral. King and Queen are calamities but king was kaido strongest and the FM while queen was the next best thing.
Even if zoro face mihawk which o doubt too, sanji still will fight someone.
As for mihawk's pl i don't think sanji would ever surpass him but if zoro fights him, sanji will face someone really powerful as well.
(Not crocodile ofc lol).
 
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