Speculations Sanji vs King and Zoro vs Beckman next

#1

So during wano zoro and sanji obviously fought and beat king and queen. Both being kaido’s top men

Many speculate (myself included) that their Blackbeard counterparts will end up being shiryu and laffitte. With technically be the 2nd strongest bbp but likely will have a falling out with the crew or something. Pretty much he more likely than not isn’t going to get matched up with a zoro or sanji
Coincidentally when it comes to shiryu and laffitte imo I think comparing them to king and beckman is pretty fair
  • Laffitte like king (and Marco) pretty much being close to the captain along with all being bird zoans that are capable of partial transformation
  • Shiryu and beckman is harder to put into words tbh but they do seem like counterparts. I’m pretty sure most people also think the same with that at least

Imo after that their next major opponents will likely be comparable in power to Kuzan and shiryu the true top 2 strongest men of Blackbeard. Thinking about its kinda similar how kuzan and Yamato were technically the strongest but they just weren’t made for zoro to fight. Yamato is probably lowkey comparable to beckman and shiryu too

Maybe mihawk and crocodile can fit that role of being comparable to Kuzan and shiryu. Tho personally I don’t think crocodile is on the level of shiryu tbh. So id personally prefer it be beckman if a shanks and buggy alliance truly does happen. So basically zoro vs mihawk and sanji vs beckman instead


Afterwards if the story goes beyond Luffy becoming pirate king and he fights the world government the pattern would probably continue for zoro and sanji’s major final opponents

With Sanji fighting his mihawk or kuzan equivalent and zoro fighting someone beyond that
 
#2
Zoro vs Hatchan ---> Luffy vs Arlong ---> Arlong Park
Zoro vs Mr. 1 ---> Luffy vs Crocodile ---> Arabasta
Zoro vs Ohm ---> Luffy vs Enel ---> Skypiea
Zoro vs Kaku ---> Luffy vs Lucci ---> Enies Lobby
Zoro vs Zombie Ryuma ---> Luffy vs Moria ---> Thriller Bark

Zoro vs Hyouzou ---> Luffy vs Hody ---> Fishmen Island
Zoro vs Pica ---> Luffy vs Doflamingo ---> Dressrosa
Zoro vs King ---> Luffy vs Kaidou ---> Onigashima

Long before Luffy set foot in any of these Locations, those Villains were Operating there
Zoro's Main Opponent is always gonna be Henchman of a Villain who always Occupied Arc's Main Island/Battlefield

We are not gonna have Beehive Island Arc nor Marine HQ Arc nor Shanks Territory Arc
Only Major Locations left who are Occupied by Villains that must be Defeated are Mary Geoise & Elbaf

You should stop expecting Main Duels against Admirals or BB Commanders
The best you gonna get from them are Short Secondary Fights like Braham, Killer or Monet
 
#3
Zoro vs Hatchan ---> Luffy vs Arlong ---> Arlong Park
Zoro vs Mr. 1 ---> Luffy vs Crocodile ---> Arabasta
Zoro vs Ohm ---> Luffy vs Enel ---> Skypiea
Zoro vs Kaku ---> Luffy vs Lucci ---> Enies Lobby
Zoro vs Zombie Ryuma ---> Luffy vs Moria ---> Thriller Bark

Zoro vs Hyouzou ---> Luffy vs Hody ---> Fishmen Island
Zoro vs Pica ---> Luffy vs Doflamingo ---> Dressrosa
Zoro vs King ---> Luffy vs Kaidou ---> Onigashima

Long before Luffy set foot in any of these Locations, those Villains were Operating there
Zoro's Main Opponent is always gonna be Henchman of a Villain who always Occupied Arc's Main Island/Battlefield

We are not gonna have Beehive Island Arc nor Marine HQ Arc nor Shanks Territory Arc
Only Major Locations left who are Occupied by Villains that must be Defeated are Mary Geoise & Elbaf

You should stop expecting Main Duels against Admirals or BB Commanders
The best you gonna get from them are Short Secondary Fights like Braham, Killer or Monet
Blackbeard and his crew are a big deal
Stop acting like their casual nothing fights for the strawhats
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#5
Sanji already fought his King/Marco equivalent in Queen. And what does Shiryu and Beckman even have in common at all???
Queen isn’t king or Marco neither is jozu.
Laffitte king and Marco all use their flying zoans similarly by knowing how to use partial transformation. Along with likely being their must trusted subordinates

Shiryu and beckman are likely comparable in strength
 
#6
Queen isn’t king or Marco neither is jozu.
Laffitte king and Marco all use their flying zoans similarly by knowing how to use partial transformation. Along with likely being their must trusted subordinates

Shiryu and beckman are likely comparable in strength
How is the 1.32 billion Zoan not similar to the 1.39 billion Zoan and the 1.37 billion Zoan?

And there’s no such thing as partial transformation. That’s just hybrid form and Shiryu should be stronger than Beckman.
 
#7
How is the 1.32 billion Zoan not similar to the 1.39 billion Zoan and the 1.37 billion Zoan?

And there’s no such thing as partial transformation. That’s just hybrid form and Shiryu should be stronger than Beckman.
Yes there all zoans with 1.3 bounties
That doesn’t change anything I said

They’re able to partially transform their body without going into a full on hybrid form. So yes partially transforming your body is partial transformation lol
+ We’ve seen Pell’s hybrid form…

 
#8
Yes there all zoans with 1.3 bounties
That doesn’t change anything I said

They’re able to partially transform their body without going into a full on hybrid form. So yes partially transforming your body is partial transformation lol
+ We’ve seen Pell’s hybrid form…

Lafittes isn’t even confirmed to have been a devil fruit.

And kings and Marcos “partial transformations” are literally just their hybrid form.

So rather than connecting the 3 1.3 billion bounties with Zoan powers that all clashed with Big Mom, you’re trying to somehow connect Lafitte with them based on nothing?
 
#10
Lafittes isn’t even confirmed to have been a devil fruit.

And kings and Marcos “partial transformations” are literally just their hybrid form.

So rather than connecting the 3 1.3 billion bounties with Zoan powers that all clashed with Big Mom, you’re trying to somehow connect Lafitte with them based on nothing?
Until we find out there’s a race of people that can turn into birds than yes laffitte clearly has a zoan fruit
Also queen is clearly kings jozu equivalent

I’m sorry but yes partially trasforming your body is something that would be considered partial transformation

 
#11
Until we find out there’s a race of people that can turn into birds than yes laffitte clearly has a zoan fruit
Also queen is clearly kings jozu equivalent

I’m sorry but yes partially trasforming your body is something that would be considered partial transformation

Queen is literally trioed with King and Marco so many times during Onigashima. But somehow Queens equivalent is someone who wasn’t there… make it make sense.

And please show me kings “partial transformation.”
 
#15
Queen is literally trioed with King and Marco so many times during Onigashima. But somehow Queens equivalent is someone who wasn’t there… make it make sense.

And please show me kings “partial transformation.”
Lmao what do you mean trio. King and queen are a duo that does make queen also the Marco equivalent of the crew lol

Both king and queen + Marco and jozu are duos. It’s deadass one of the most in your face and obvious parallels in the story. Jozu losing an arm and not being able to make it to wano doesn’t change that lol

Marco and king’s parallels are obvious as hell


Do you not remember king using his fruit?…


Keep waiting for Beehive Island Arc then
They don’t need to be a beehive
Same way they don’t need to be at empty bluffs to fight cross guild or wherever shanks base is to fight him. All the emperors are on the move looking for the next clue to the one piece none of them are stationary
 
#16
Lmao what do you mean trio. King and queen are a duo that does make queen also the Marco equivalent of the crew lol

Both king and queen + Marco and jozu are duos. It’s deadass one of the most in your face and obvious parallels in the story. Jozu losing an arm and not being able to make it to wano doesn’t change that lol

Marco and king’s parallels are obvious as hell


Do you not remember king using his fruit?…



They don’t need to be a beehive
Same way they don’t need to be at empty bluffs to fight cross guild or wherever shanks base is to fight him. All the emperors are on the move looking for the next clue to the one piece none of them are stationary
That’s his fucking hybrid form???

And again throughout Wano, oda had King Queen and Marco triod. Which is why all 3 have bounties above 1.3 and below 1.4 and why all 3 combated the same person and why the three of them were constantly married on the performance hall.

Sanji already fought his Zoan with a 1.3 billion berry bounty in Queen.
 
#17
That’s his fucking hybrid form???

And again throughout Wano, oda had King Queen and Marco triod. Which is why all 3 have bounties above 1.3 and below 1.4 and why all 3 combated the same person and why the three of them were constantly married on the performance hall.

Sanji already fought his Zoan with a 1.3 billion berry bounty in Queen.
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Only thing that changes is he turns his hands into Dino wings and loses the lunarian ones. He isn’t half man half pteranodon. Same way Marco can choose to only make 1 wing doesn’t make it a hybrid

Yes king and queen are a duo we all know that. There’s no reason to be ashamed in queen being kings jozu

Yeah I’m done
 
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Only thing that changes is he turns his hands into Dino wings and loses the lunarian ones. He isn’t half man half pteranodon. Same way Marco can choose to only make 1 wing doesn’t make it a hybrid

Yes king and queen are a duo we all know that. There’s no reason to be ashamed in queen being kings jozu

Yeah I’m done
He literally changes his legs into pteranodon leg, his arms become pteranodon wings, his head changed shape to the pteranodon crest, and his lunarian wings disappear. He’s ib hybrid lmao
 
#19
They don’t need to be a beehive
Same way they don’t need to be at empty bluffs to fight cross guild or wherever shanks base is to fight him. All the emperors are on the move looking for the next clue to the one piece none of them are stationary
It never happened before.
They fought Arlong in Arlong Park
Crocodile in Arabasta
Enel in Skypiea
Lucci in Enies Lobby
Moria in Thriller Bark
Hody in Fishmen Island
Doflamingo in Dressrosa & Kaidou in Onigashima

Main Saga Villain is always fought in their own Territory where they established their Operations there for Years
And Zoro always fights Henchman of said Villain as his Main Duel

For Zoro to have his Main Saga Fight against an Admiral or Shiryu, They must Travel to Marine HQ or Beehive
And Main Villain needs to be Akainu or Blackbeard

So yeah, keep waiting for something that never happened before
 
#20
It never happened before.
They fought Arlong in Arlong Park
Crocodile in Arabasta
Enel in Skypiea
Lucci in Enies Lobby
Moria in Thriller Bark
Hody in Fishmen Island
Doflamingo in Dressrosa & Kaidou in Onigashima

Main Saga Villain is always fought in their own Territory where they established their Operations there for Years
And Zoro always fights Henchman of said Villain as his Main Duel

For Zoro to have his Main Saga Fight against an Admiral or Shiryu, They must Travel to Marine HQ or Beehive
And Main Villain needs to be Akainu or Blackbeard

So yeah, keep waiting for something that never happened before
None of the emperors are staying idle in their territory anymore. All of them are actively on the move for the one piece

Also it’s dumb to the the strawhats aren’t going to fight the Blackbeard pirates. And if the story goes beyond just finding the one piece and leads to luffy vs imu yes the rest of the crew will also help fight
 
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