Character Discussion Why does Imu-sama, the supposed final villain of One Piece, seem like crap so far?!

What do you think of the portrayal of the supposed final villain?


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It also explains why he loves Bleach villains Yhwach and Aizen so much. Kubo always made his major antagonists idiotically strong to the point that the rest of the cast combined couldn't beat them before realising that the only way Ichigo could beat them is with a poorly written Deus ex Machina but if all one cares about is the author making the bad guy as strong as feasibly possible even if it absolutely makes zero sense then Bleach is right up his alley.

Kubo made his antagonists so strong that he couldn't even show off their full power. He never showed Aizen's Bankai or Yhwach using the abilities of the subordinates whose powers he absorbed which included literal reality warping.

@Sasaki Kojirō would look at this and think "peak fiction!!" because "Kaido so stronk!!!"
Exactly. His complaint about “omniscience” just made me roll my eyes and gave flashbacks to the Aizen “all according to plan” meme. Such things rightly deserve all the lampooning they get.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

Bros really microanalyzing the FeAtS of a Silhouette 🤣
Let's come up with an excuse for Imu-sama's failure, the supposed god who's going to face 5 top-tier individuals at the same time, who was seen failing to knock out Sabo with his back turned while carrying an old man. Let's say it was all because of his silhouette, because silhouettes definitely prevent someone from performing any actions and using their powers, right? 🤣🤣🤣
"Imu-sama is a silhouette, that's why they're accumulating LS." 😭😭😭
 

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The Rogue Prince
Let's come up with an excuse for Imu-sama, who is facing 5 top-tier individuals at the same time but fails to knock out Sabo with his back turned while carrying an old man in his silhouette. After all, silhouettes definitely prevent someone from using their powers and performing any actions, right? 🤣🤣🤣
Imu hasnt even been introduced yet 🤣

Dont worry, we will see how strong Imu is. The Final Saga is just starting lol, after mid series villains were dealt with.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

Imu hasnt even been introduced yet 🤣

Dont worry, we will see how strong Imu is. The Final Saga is just starting lol, after mid series villains were dealt with.
Kaido still above Mihawk. Yes, we'll see more failures like that of Imu-sama, the supposed final god of the series, failing to knock out a man with his back turned while carrying an old man?!

"But but but the silhouette."🤣🤣🤣 Imagine if all of Kaido's LS (Loser) were justified by him being a silhouette...
 
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Imu-sama's attacks are far above a Haki-coated attack from Base Kaido, considering that Kaido is a YC3...
Sabo, with his back turned and in a vulnerable position, receives an attack from the all-powerful Imu-sama and isn't even knocked out. Is there any excuse for that?!Afterward, the god Imu-sama allows the wounded Sabo to escape.
I mean, you still question that after a casual attack nearly killed Sabo like that?
Listen Sasaki, we can keep going in circles like we want but you literally admitted PIS exist so I don't even get how you STILL use the same debunked argument since page 1. Again, Sabo wasn't allowed to be KOed. He HAD to FLEE. Yet Oda made sure to give Sabo a very lethal injury which still fucked him up even when he was already far away and near Lulucia Kingdom. Guess why?

In comparison, Kaido appears better, given the fact that on both occasions when he caught someone off guard, he managed to knock out Oden and temporarily kill Luffy, while Imu-sama didn't achieve either against Sabo. (And Oden and Luffy are stronger than Sabo). Well, well, it seems things are getting tough for the all-powerful and hypothetical god Imu.
No shit, Kaido, a villain who literally went ALL OUT, demonstrated better feats than a silhuette. How comes you are so insecure about the idea the FV is stronger than Kaido? You know he won't remain the strongest, right? You know there will be stronger characters, right? You know Primebeard and Roger are stronger, right? You know Kaido is just a silver medalist who lost the PK battle even before the final saga started, right? You keep saying how this is not about Kaido but judging from your posts in this thread and you defensive you get when arguments against Kaido are dropped, I feel like this is all about Kaido again.

Once again, Imu almost killed Sabo. He doesn't need to knock him down and considering the fact that Imu is still just a silhuette - hence Oda can't even completely show what kind of attack Imu really used to keep his powers a mystery - this is more than enough. Oden wasn't one shotted. He was beaten after a long drawn battle against Kaido and his army. He was already exhausted before he got caught off guard by Kaido. Also, the same Kaido was mortally injured by Togen Totsuka. How comes a swordsman, weaker than Ghandi and Mihawk, managed to injure Kaido like that, giving him PTSD in result whilst living rent free in his head for 20 years?

Unless, of course, you believe that Kaido wouldn't have knocked out a Sabo carrying an old man on his back with a completely lowered guard
If the plot doesn't allow Sabo to be knocked out in the same room as Kaido, Blackbeard, Big Mom, Whitebeard, Shanks and Xebec - which would literally be his death - of course I believe Kaido wouldn't knock Sabo down in these circumstances.

You keep crying about FeAts but you're just nitpicking at very small things while denying that a mid series antagonist will be weaker than the FV. You don't have to like Imu as a FV but at least try to be objective. It's not that hard.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

I mean, you still question that after a casual attack nearly killed Sabo like that?
Listen Sasaki, we can keep going in circles like we want but you literally admitted PIS exist so I don't even get how you STILL use the same debunked argument since page 1. Again, Sabo wasn't allowed to be KOed. He HAD to FLEE. Yet Oda made sure to give Sabo a very lethal injury which still fucked him up even when he was already far away and near Lulucia Kingdom. Guess why?



No shit, Kaido, a villain who literally went ALL OUT, demonstrated better feats than a silhuette. How comes you are so insecure about the idea the FV is stronger than Kaido? You know he won't remain the strongest, right? You know there will be stronger characters, right? You know Primebeard and Roger are stronger, right? You know Kaido is just a silver medalist who lost the PK battle even before the final saga started, right? You keep saying how this is not about Kaido but judging from your posts in this thread and you defensive you get when arguments against Kaido are dropped, I feel like this is all about Kaido again.

Once again, Imu almost killed Sabo. He doesn't need to knock him down and considering the fact that Imu is still just a silhuette - hence Oda can't even completely show what kind of attack Imu really used to keep his powers a mystery - this is more than enough. Oden wasn't one shotted. He was beaten after a long drawn battle against Kaido and his army. He was already exhausted before he got caught off guard by Kaido. Also, the same Kaido was mortally injured by Togen Totsuka. How comes a swordsman, weaker than Ghandi and Mihawk, managed to injure Kaido like that, giving him PTSD in result whilst living rent free in his head for 20 years?



If the plot doesn't allow Sabo to be knocked out in the same room as Kaido, Blackbeard, Big Mom, Whitebeard, Shanks and Xebec - which would literally be his death - of course I believe Kaido wouldn't knock Sabo down in these circumstances.

You keep crying about FeAts but you're just nitpicking at very small things while denying that a mid series antagonist will be weaker than the FV. You don't have to like Imu as a FV but at least try to be objective. It's not that hard.
Short version of this?
Kaidou > Blackbeard and Imu.

Kaidou as strongest pirate > Blackbeard. Kaidou as strongest living creature > Imu. Cry more, speculation won't change that.
What's left for you is to wait for Oda to fulfill his Sentinel-kun headcanon

Do you really think I'm going to rate a guy who can't defeat Sabo while carrying an old man on his back above kaidou?
Stop the nonsense.🤣
 
Short version of this?
Kaido gets Page One'd by either Imu or EOS BB.

Kaidou as strongest pirate > Blackbeard.
Roger and Primebeard > Kaido.
Forget Blackbeard, he'll be obviously far stronger than Kaido. I don't even need to talk about Imu. As a silhuette, he already did more than enough.

Potentially, Shanks > Kaido is also possible, same as Mihawk.

Kaidou as strongest living creature > Imu.
Bro, Kaido's Captain failed to obtain what Imu has: being the King of the World. A title is irrelevant.

Cry more, speculation won't change that.
It is speculation to say the FV would destroy the mid series villain? Tell me just one example in shonen manga when a mid series villain was stronger than the final villain, I will wait.

What's left for him is to wait for Oda to fulfill his Sentinel-kun headcanon
I don't need to wait. It's so blatantly obvious the final villain will shit on Kaido. This is not even trashtalking, it's just the truth.

You better hope Kaido won't be outclassed by the Elbaf villain by the way. I mean it seriously. You better get used to stronger villains.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

Kaido gets Page One'd by either Imu or EOS BB.



Roger and Primebeard > Kaido.
Forget Blackbeard, he'll be obviously far stronger than Kaido. I don't even need to talk about Imu. As a silhuette, he already did more than enough.

Potentially, Shanks > Kaido is also possible, same as Mihawk.



Bro, Kaido's Captain failed to obtain what Imu has: being the King of the World. A title is irrelevant.



It is speculation to say the FV would destroy the mid series villain? Tell me just one example in shonen manga when a mid series villain was stronger than the final villain, I will wait.



I don't need to wait. It's so blatantly obvious the final villain will shit on Kaido. This is not even trashtalking, it's just the truth.

You better hope Kaido won't be outclassed by the Elbaf villain by the way. I mean it seriously. You better get used to stronger villains.

Sentinel, when Imu-sama has some decent feat you can start designing your future Headcanon for that character, for now failing to defeat Sabo carrying a man on his back is not a feat that makes me even think that Imu is above insects like Green Bull much less than Kaidou who is exalted by Blackbeard and the 5 elders.
Kaido gets Page One'd by either Imu or EOS BB.

Based on your right guess? Because the current Blackbeard with 2 DF is calling Kaidou a fearsome monster and being classified as inferior...
This increase in power that EOS BB will undergo is an imaginary fan thing that is not even a fact, learn to separate guesswork and expectations from reality. Imu can't even treat Sabo like fodder and you supposedly say he can treat kaidou who is stronger than blackbeard? Lmao
 
Sentinel, when Imu-sama has some decent feat you can start designing your future Headcanon for that character
Dragon is at the top of the OP world and he doesn't even have feats. What's your constant obsession about desperately seeing feats? Imu has the portrayal, the feats will come in the final war.

for now failing to defeat Sabo
Killing Sabo =/= defeating Sabo.
He defeated Sabo with a single hit.

is not a feat that makes me even think that Imu is above insects like Green Bull much less than Kaidou who is exalted by Blackbeard and the 5 elders.
Uh, I guess sucks for you?
I mean, I cannot convince you anyway and I'm sure the moment Imu actually shows crazy stuff, you will backtrack anyway, realising how stupid you sound back in 2023. That's why this entire discussion is just amusing because this is a conversation which WILL age like milk. It's inevitable. You can keep repeating and shouting headcanon as much as you like. It changes nothing.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

Dragon is at the top of the OP world and he doesn't even have feats. What's your constant obsession about desperately seeing feats? Imu has the portrayal, the feats will come in the final war.



Killing Sabo =/= defeating Sabo.
He defeated Sabo with a single hit.



Uh, I guess sucks for you?
I mean, I cannot convince you anyway and I'm sure the moment Imu actually shows crazy stuff, you will backtrack anyway, realising how stupid you sound back in 2023. That's why this entire discussion is just amusing because this is a conversation which WILL age like milk. It's inevitable. You can keep repeating and shouting headcanon as much as you like. It changes nothing.

How scary, it even seems like your guesses are going to come true man, keep denying what is written in the manga, deny that one of the favorite characters to be the final villain was calling Kaidou a fearsome monster, attribute a hypothetical idea that BB will become more powerful than he is so that his beliefs make sense, and try to defend Imu-sama for not being able to do something that even Base Kaidou can do, which is knock out Sabo.
Kaidou > Imu & BB
I suggest you start waiting patiently for one of your headcanon to be written by Oda. LMAO
 
Not even @MonsterKaido is such a insane Kaido wanker
MonsterKaido is pretty reasonable tbh.

And I mean Kaido is pretty strong. But Sasaki's wank is just based on pure insecurity and bias.
There is a normal Kaido wanker and then there is the Kaido wanker who has this unhealthy obsession with the character.

Sasaki falls in the latter, there is nothing wrong with being a fan of a character and being bias towards that character.

The problem is that Sasaki takes his bias and him being a fan to the extreme, he acts like Kaido is a god and also acts like Kaido was the final villain.

To him everything about Kaido is perfect, this goes for his crew and Yamato as well.

When it comes to Kaido and everything about Kaido, Sasaki thinks that he is always in the right and never wrong.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1718997298917605541?s=61&t=ubYgM7glINnm0Lk125lFKg

SBS on Imu true face .
@Sasaki Kojirō @nik87

It doesn’t seem like joke question or sometime . More like legit ask question.
At least he's managing to make someone laugh.
:lulz::lulz::lulz::luffylaugh::luffylaugh:
Kaidou > Imu
Akainu > Imu
BB > Imu


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That is first time I agree with you even through you are DWF lol.

6 vs 1 is last time you want happen in America football especially running back out ran guys to score touchdown .

Heck sabo is not even ko by Imu arrow attack as supposed top 1 guy . Meanwhile kuma get women experience by chimp eating her face . Kuma lose his part of face and leg by Akainu. Robot are resilient to pain and would be more durable than normal human being .
‘Heck Kuzan tore jozu arm off .

So I don’t think Imu is final villain . Then Saturn is pretty much flip flopping guy like political person would do.

For people, say but gorosei tank sabo fire , Avalo Pizarro tank garp advanced coc which garp coc attack > sabo fire attack . Yet people say Avalo Pizarro is franky victim or fodder or make excuses as blah blah .
Good point, Imu's lethality isn't better than that of Akainu and Aokiji, who, in a moment of distraction, can dismember people, while Imu fails to do so even when his opponent is running with their back turned to him and carrying a crippled man on top of it.
 
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There is a normal Kaido wanker and then there is the Kaido wanker who has this unhealthy obsession with the character.

Sasaki falls in the latter, there is nothing wrong with being a fan of a character and being bias towards that character.

The problem is that Sasaki takes his bias and him being a fan to the extreme, he acts like Kaido is a god and also acts like Kaido was the final villain.

To him everything about Kaido is perfect, this goes for his crew and Yamato as well.

When it comes to Kaido and everything about Kaido, Sasaki thinks that he is always in the right and never wrong.
Going to be honest, I have never seen a proper Kaido stan that didn't fall into the latter category. Lol. Kaido attracts the weirdest wankers.
 
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