General & Others Zoro and Sanji vs Kizaru still on the table?

#22
Not even for a period
As soon Zoro woke up, Zoro took on King
N Sanji took on Queen
They did a combo attack and they defended each other. Then fought side by side for few minutes and even zoro jokingly said dont get on my way

They even defeated a pacifista out of the time skip together

sanji and zoro have combos lol
 
#23
Jinbei can be no 1 or no 99, I don't care. He is still W
No 1 by character
No 3 by strength
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They did a combo attack and they defended each other. Then fought side by side for few minutes and even zoro jokingly said dont get on my way

They even defeated a pacifista out of the time skip together

sanji and zoro have combos lol
Even Luffy n Killer fought side by side vs Bm n Kaido
But who defeated Kaido?

Lol
 
#24
No 1 by character
No 3 by strength
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Even Luffy n Killer fought side by side vs Bm n Kaido
But who defeated Kaido?

Lol
I never said sanji defeated king are u acting stupid on purpose?

there are so many team work and combos between zoro and sanji u cant even deny it lmao

they even got few vs oars
Even in FMI i think, there was scene sanji charged zoro

U can keep denying it tho
 
#25


I don't remember Zoro attacking Queen 🤣🤣
These Lanjitards are so damn obsessed with Zoro that wanna put him beside Zoro at any possible way
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I never said sanji defeated king are u acting stupid on purpose?

there are so many team work and combos between zoro and sanji u cant even deny it lmao

they even got few vs oars
Even in FMI i think, there was scene sanji charged zoro

U can keep denying it tho
Are u stupid or what? Have you read the post? It is stated that they will be in a combo fight to defeat Kizaru.

Do you know what a combo fight is? Where Z n S both will land hits on Kiz to take him down

Zoro n Luffy got more combos than Zoro and Sanji
 
#27
Did you see Luffy vs Kizaru? Of course Zoro is strong enough to take on someone who was shoted by the first serious attack from Luffy.
So he can solo Kizaru. There are plenty of things Sanji can do in the meantime.
But they aren't taking on Kizaru 2v1, it's too easy for them.
Both luffy and kizaru are currently down at the moment with neither having really gone all out yet. Also kizaru isn’t defeated lol

Unless zoro can solo mihawk too he isn’t soloing any top tier yet. Man isn’t beating kizaru before shiryu lol
 
#29
Both luffy and kizaru are currently down at the moment with neither having really gone all out yet. Also kizaru isn’t defeated lol

Unless zoro can solo mihawk too he isn’t soloing any top tier yet. Man isn’t beating kizaru before shiryu lol
The difference is Kizaru was one shoted at Luffy's first attack and Luffy is down because of G5 effect.
And Mihawk has nothing to do with Kizaru. Zoro soloing Kizaru doesn't mean he is above Mihawk.
 
#30
Kiz is barely above YC lol
:kaidowhat:
The difference is Kizaru was one shoted at Luffy's first attack and Luffy is down because of G5 effect.
And Mihawk has nothing to do with Kizaru. Zoro soloing Kizaru doesn't mean he is above Mihawk.
And guess what at the end of the day they’re both down and can’t move. On top of that neither has fully gone out yet and both will get back up and keep fighting

G5 having a time limit doesn’t change the fact that kizaru was able to push luffy to that time limit. That applies to all limited forms
If someone is able to fight koh zoro or ij sanji long enough that their forms completely exhaust them that’s still impressive on their end

Yeah he does because mihawk is closer to kizaru than zoro is to him
 
#31
:kaidowhat:

And guess what at the end of the day they’re both down and can’t move. On top of that neither has fully gone out yet and both will get back up and keep fighting

G5 having a time limit doesn’t change the fact that kizaru was able to push luffy to that time limit. That applies to all limited forms
If someone is able to fight koh zoro or ij sanji long enough that their forms completely exhaust them that’s still impressive on their end

Yeah he does because mihawk is closer to kizaru than zoro is to him
Lmao @Tejas @Roronoa-sama
 
#32
:kaidowhat:

And guess what at the end of the day they’re both down and can’t move. On top of that neither has fully gone out yet and both will get back up and keep fighting

G5 having a time limit doesn’t change the fact that kizaru was able to push luffy to that time limit. That applies to all limited forms
If someone is able to fight koh zoro or ij sanji long enough that their forms completely exhaust them that’s still impressive on their end

Yeah he does because mihawk is closer to kizaru than zoro is to him
YCs > AdmiraLs is canon now.
Luffy couldn't oneshot a YC
 
#33
And guess what at the end of the day they’re both down and can’t move. On top of that neither has fully gone out yet and both will get back up and keep fighting

G5 having a time limit doesn’t change the fact that kizaru was able to push luffy to that time limit. That applies to all limited forms
If someone is able to fight koh zoro or ij sanji long enough that their forms completely exhaust them that’s still impressive on their end

Yeah he does because mihawk is closer to kizaru than zoro is to him
I don't know if you're trying to downplay Luffy or Zoro or trying to wank Kizaru but there must be some agenda behind this.
Otherwise it's pretty easy to understand what happened.
Kizaru didn't push Luffy to his limit, it's Luffy playing around that did. If he started by WSG, Kizaru would be on the ground and Luffy would still look like a grandpa. He was exactly like that after Lucci, doesn't mean Lucci = Kizaru.
If he fought Usopp with G5 he would end up a grandpa too.
Forget about G5 effect, look at the fight itself. I know it was shit but it's pretty obvious that Luffy won easily.
 
#36
No way is oda letting Luffy fight all out with an opponent, fail to knock him out, both end up in an invalid state, then not have Luffy beat him later in the arc.
 
#37
YCs > AdmiraLs is canon now.
Luffy couldn't oneshot a YC
Kizaru isn’t defeated and
:kaidowhat:
I don't know if you're trying to downplay Luffy or Zoro or trying to wank Kizaru but there must be some agenda behind this.
Otherwise it's pretty easy to understand what happened.
Kizaru didn't push Luffy to his limit, it's Luffy playing around that did. If he started by WSG, Kizaru would be on the ground and Luffy would still look like a grandpa. He was exactly like that after Lucci, doesn't mean Lucci = Kizaru.
If he fought Usopp with G5 he would end up a grandpa too.
Forget about G5 effect, look at the fight itself. I know it was shit but it's pretty obvious that Luffy won easily.
It’s called acknowledging that both luffy and kizaru are currently down and can’t move much. Acting like kizaru was fodderized or downplaying the admirals in general is stupid.

Luffy was reaching his limit in g5 because he was fighting and chasing kizaru. Acting like he was just goofing around and just exhausting himself just isn’t true. Luffy was reaching his g5 limit ag


The if he used a stronger attack earlier argument can literally be used for anyone and doesn’t mean anything.
Luffy going out of g4 against big mom in wci isn’t the same as him not being able to use g4 any longer because he completely exhausted himself. Despite the fact he looked the same the second he got out of it. Same applies to g5

Luffy won despite the fact kizaru is soon going to get up, he can still talk + slightly move, and that neither one is capable of doing anything yet…
 
#39
It’s called acknowledging that both luffy and kizaru are currently down and can’t move much. Acting like kizaru was fodderized or downplaying the admirals in general is stupid.

Luffy was reaching his limit in g5 because he was fighting and chasing kizaru. Acting like he was just goofing around and just exhausting himself just isn’t true. Luffy was reaching his g5 limit ag
I'm not downplaying Kizaru. He went down after one punch, it is what it is.
And yes Luffy was goofing around and that's why he reached G5 limit not because Kizaru was so strong that he couldn't do anything.
Basically anybody with decent strength can outlast a round of G5 if all Luffy does is what he did vs Kizaru. Cracker can, Doffy can, Jack can but just like Kizaru they would go down the moment Luffy uses WSG.
The if he used a stronger attack earlier argument can literally be used for anyone and doesn’t mean anything.
Except when it's the first named attack he does. Before that he didn't do anything. He wasn't close to being all out while Kizaru is. What else does Kizaru have to damage Luffy? Use more light?
 
#40
I'm not downplaying Kizaru. He went down after one punch, it is what it is.
And yes Luffy was goofing around and that's why he reached G5 limit not because Kizaru was so strong that he couldn't do anything.
Basically anybody with decent strength can outlast a round of G5 if all Luffy does is what he did vs Kizaru. Cracker can, Doffy can, Jack can but just like Kizaru they would go down the moment Luffy uses WSG.

Except when it's the first named attack he does. Before that he didn't do anything. He wasn't close to being all out while Kizaru is. What else does Kizaru have to damage Luffy? Use more light?
Acting like kizaru was fodderized, easily taken out, or actually going to stay down for long is down play

Luffy used one of his strongest g5 attacks we’ve seen him do
He also had luffy reach his limit in g5. Kizaru is literally the reason he’s in the form to begin with



???
Outside of g5 natural goofiness when was luffy not taking Kizaru seriously. Acting like anyone can just simply outlast g5 even Jack just because is crazy lol. So yeah that’s another example of you downplaying kizaru. Acting like they can simply all stall him long enough for him to reach his limit is cap

Kizaru was more focused on vegapunk than he was luffy something said multiple times. We don’t know all kizaru’s abilities and limits. We don’t know how far his fruit mastery goes. We don’t know much about his true haki capabilities
Kizaru has far from shown everything he has to offer
 
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