Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1097 Spoilers Discussion

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ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Dragon lost his hq. How does that help an organization or its reputation? The WG hasn’t tried to take BB’s hq. Why is that? Garp going rogue doesn’t count.
Someone like Dragon doesn't care about "Reputation".
He is fighting a completely different war aimed for a completely different cause.

Don't confuse these Petty Pirates squabbling over Titles & Treasures with someone like Dragon - his cause is far more Nobler.
 
Dragon lost his hq. The WG hasn’t tried to take BB’s hq. Why is that?
You know, its is funny.
We have the solar system with Gorosei being planets, Luffy as the sun, we have Supernovas, Celestial Dragons explain themselves.

Then BB is literally the Black Hole who could destroy the entire system and it takes Garp to go out there cause the WG seems to idle around.
I mean, not like the WG has ever been reliable and some actions or lack thereof are...questionable to put it mildly, yet BB has a certain amount of freedom that seems out of place.


EDIT: Especially when you consider his fascination with Rocks isnt exactly subtle either.
 
It's a personality thing & not an "Admirals thing".
It's about the backlash for the Admirals personality, it's pretty much the same thing. Excuses are being made for why Garp shouldn't receive any hate for doing the same thing all the Admirals have done throughout their careers as well.

Greenbull comes to Wano - tells everyone that racism/classism is what allows the World to work & that he believes they have no Human Rights. Literally the shit you see in the Real World right now.

Akainu nukes the entirety of Ohara to make sure not a single Scholar escaped.
And yet both of these actions can be explained that they're doing it for the greater good as well. Akainu even said so after killing the civilians. Yes Ryokugyu is using the system just to slaughter as he pleases without any consequences and yet he's doing that to oppose the pirates just like Garp has done.

You guys love to romanticize that - "Akainu did Nothing Wrong".
Then complain when people like Greenbull & Akainu are called trash for siding with Philosophy that is Trash.
Not even the most hardcore Admiral fan is genuinely trying to make either Akainu or Ryokugyu be seen as a good person, but given the state of the OP world they aren't evil either.

Heck slander an extremist like Sengoku too - his entire Speech to begin the War at Marineford involved around we're Publicly Executing you because you might become another Roger. Completely dehumanizing Ace.
Killing the son of the PK who was meant to lead the next generation by WB is not acting for the greater good ?

Fujitora & Aokiji reasons are Obvious.
Kizaru too believes he is just another "Cog in the Machine".
- Fujitora tries to do something against what he sees as wrong, something Garp never did.
- Kuzan actually shows guilt over his actions which is infinitely better than Garp who turned a blind eye to pregnant women being murdered, even leading the operation.
- Kizaru is just doing his job, not more or less. He doesn't include his own bias.

Garp? He is literally a Marine Luffy.
He is what Luffy would've become had he not met Shanks but a Marine instead & had a single bad experience with Pirates.
He is canonically the "Freest Marine in the Sea" just like how Luffy wants to be the "Freest Man in the Sea".
He is simply fighting for the Greater Good, his entire story in Marineford was whether he'd sacrifice his Grandson for the Greater Good.
What is this greater good that Garp was fighting for in all those years?
 
Dragon lost his hq. How does that help an organization or its reputation? The WG hasn’t tried to take BB’s hq. Why is that? Garp going rogue doesn’t count.
Dragon has more than one HQ what BB pirates did to the revs not slow them down at all.
They still attack holy land and free kuma and salves and declare war and Sabo even learn secrets of the WG high level people
They stopping the CD from getting food by cutting off there supply and waiting for holy knight to make there moves.
If anything revs more popular than ever thanks to Sabo .
 
Fuck Lakainu
Fuck Lyokugyu
Fuck Lizaru
Fuck Lengoku
Fuck Larp
Fuck Long
Fuck Lsuru
Fuck Lmoker
Fuck Loby
Fuck Lashigi
Fuck the Larine frauds

We stand with Dragon
We stand with Rocks
We stand with Luffy
We stand with Blackbeard
We stand with Kaido
We stand with Big Mom
We stand with Cross Guild
We stand with those who oppose the government

Also fuck the Snitch
The World Government owns the Pirate world clown
 
Man, Akainu made the Navy stronger than ever.
At the moment, yes, but he has only been FA for 2 years and there are already considerably cracks within the ranks.

Sengoku held it together for years managing to keep strong willed people like Tsuru, Smoker, Akainu, Aokiji and Garp under wraps. Akainus promotion and leadership led to Aokiji defecting, Fujitora revolting, Smoker questioning it all and Sword rapidly going rogue. + Gorosei questioning his leadership.

Thing is at the end of the day fuji get the warlord replace but with clone child version of them .
That even more under the CD thumbs , he did good thing but WG just make look what ever .
True. Fujitora must have seen something (pun intended) in order for him to believe in SSG and Vegapunk so strongly.
 
Wow who would have thought, a flashback with a female with a tragic end. As if we haven’t had a million of those already. Cut, copy and paste. But hey one piece fans have no standards, so why would Oda even put the effort .
Seeing one of Naruto's main villains was motivated by not getting over his love to a 12 year old girl, even in his 30s, I suspect you know all about this.
 

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Hey at least he tried to do something about it.
It's infinitely better than someone that claims to dislike the CD but then shut his mouth and even fight to protect them.
Garp the hypocrite

Too stupid to have any meaningful philosophies on justice, too stupid to realize he did more to defend the Celestial Dragons than any Admiral ever
 
Someone like Dragon doesn't care about "Reputation".
He is fighting a completely different war aimed for a completely different cause.

Don't confuse these Petty Pirates squabbling over Titles & Treasures with someone like Dragon - his cause is far more Nobler.
Reputation leads to recruits.

Is his cause more noble? Maybe I am not recalling specific panels but what I gather is that he is just anti-WG. Being against one form of evil does not make one’s cause necessarily good.

Luffy (and crew) is the few characters that wants good that is a common good. Fuji probably also. Kuma obviously too
 
Reputation leads to recruits.

Is his cause more noble? Maybe I am not recalling specific panels but what I gather is that he is just anti-WG. Being against one form of evil does not make one’s cause necessarily good.
Yeah, his goal is to defeat the WG and take over himself, so becoming King of the World just like Xebec wanted
 
It's a personality thing & not an "Admirals thing".

Greenbull comes to Wano - tells everyone that racism/classism is what allows the World to work & that he believes they have no Human Rights. Literally the shit you see in the Real World right now.

Akainu nukes the entirety of Ohara to make sure not a single Scholar escaped.

You guys love to romanticize that - "Akainu did Nothing Wrong".
Then complain when people like Greenbull & Akainu are called trash for siding with Philosophy that is Trash.

Heck slander an extremist like Sengoku too - his entire Speech to begin the War at Marineford involved around we're Publicly Executing you because you might become another Roger. Completely dehumanizing Ace.

People like Aokiji, Fujitora, Garp are an exception.

Fujitora & Aokiji reasons are Obvious.
Kizaru too believes he is just another "Cog in the Machine".

Garp? He is literally a Marine Luffy.
He is what Luffy would've become had he not met Shanks but a Marine instead & had a single bad experience with Pirates.



He is canonically the "Freest Marine in the Sea" just like how Luffy wants to be the "Freest Man in the Sea".
He is simply fighting for the Greater Good, his entire story in Marineford was whether he'd sacrifice his Grandson for the Greater Good.
You spent the whole day arguing against Akainu not having CoC

Mihawk was wg dog and now serving a clown
He was also staying away from NWuntil recently
Runs away from fighting top guys , only flexes on weaklings

Yet you think he has CoC because "zoro has it"

Typical Mihawk fanboy
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Reputation leads to recruits.

Is his cause more noble? Maybe I am not recalling specific panels but what I gather is that he is just anti-WG. Being against one form of evil does not make one’s cause necessarily good.
He is trying to change the entire world, his organization operates every where not just the New World.

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