Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1097 Spoilers Discussion

[Roronoa-sama]

That would be so lame. Saturn and his people Have ruined Kumas life. And kuma getting zero resolution in that beyond killing himself to let luffy fight would be so horrid.

I'm sorry but do you read the manga

 

[DavyJones]

Brah Bonney gets saved by Stone Cold Steve Austin Kuma. I really think that him slamming into the redline is foreshadowing, for him slamming into Saturn.

I mean that caused a big fuck off explosion, I'm sure thats enough to free Bonney and buy Kuma the time to give Luffy his second wind.

 

[Pringles]

We don't know what he knows. And Nika fighting Saturn makes too much sense. If you don't like it then that's ok. But I think it's pretty clear it'll happen one way or another.

Now, if you think Kuma will take his accumulated pain and attack saturn with it to deal substantial damage then I like that possibility. Him fighting Saturn for a bit would be cool, but he is not defeating him, Luffy has always defeated the main bad guy in the arc with the exceptions of Sabaody and Marineford.

Even Luffy vs Kaido made less sense narratively speaking, especially before Kaido's flashback about JoyBoy, than Nika vs Saturn.

Nika vs Saturn is just inevitable, there is no other possible scenario.

That's the Egghead incident, that's what is shocking the world.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

We know that he literally knows nothing cause his body has no intelligence in it as he sent out his memories into the bubble we saw earlier.

And the main bad guy in the arc is literally Kizaru.

Ummm no, it is Saturn. Kizaru is just the henchman this time around. Saturn embodies the great evil that must be deposed in this arc.

 

[Paperchampion23]

It can attack Saturn but Luffy himself will be the one to decisively attack him, in what way we have no idea but it's literally spelled out for you.

This isnt even the point of the conversation though lol, i am talking about who saves Bonney right NOW. It cannot be Luffy, he is trapped on the floor and isnt even mobile.

Whatever happens later is fine, its not the point right now.

 

[MarineHQ]

Anything new ?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Jesus Christ. KUMA COMING TO EGGHEAD DOESNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT NIKA CAUSE IT HAS NO MEMORIES. JUST A SINGLE MISSION ITS BEEN PREPARING FOR FOR YEARS.

How did he know Saturn would be in Egghead two years in advance?

 

[Jailer]

Kuma or some random robot beating Saturn is like saying Law beating Doffy in dressrosa or ZKK

It's never gonna happen as long as these guys are the main arc villain and the main character part of it.

Luffy is a D and is coincidentally Nika, ultimate sworn enemy of the one Saturn worships, you just have to put 2 and 2 together.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Either they don't read the manga or they don't have reading comprehension

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

zoro vs kizaru has nothing to do with the saturn vs nika.
Saturn vs nika will happen even if zoro won't fight agaisnt kizaru

Say it louder for the people in the back :queenhear:

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Ummm no, it is Saturn. Kizaru is just the henchman this time around. Saturn embodies the great evil that must be deposed in this arc.

So Lucci wasn’t the big villain of Ennies Lobby? It’s Spandam?

Saturn is not the one who’s been trying to kill Vegapunk all arc. Saturns literally only on the island right now to stop the pacifistas from attacking. Literally once Kizaru gets back up Saturns not going to tell him to stand down, Kizaru will go right back to killing Vegapunk which is the main conflict of the arc.

 

[Pringles]

Kuma or some random robot beating Saturn is like saying Law beating Doffy in dressrosa it's ZKK

It's never gonna happen as long as these guys are the main arc villain and the main character part of it.

Luffy is a D and is coincidentslly Nika, ultimate sworn enemy of the one Saturn worships, you jyst have to put 2 and 2 together.

Some people will do anything but put 2 and 2 together

 

[Jailer]

This isnt even the point of the conversation though lol, i am talking about who saves Bonney right NOW. It cannot be Luffy, he is trapped on the floor and isnt even mobile.

Whatever happens later is fine, its not the point right now.

Semantics, point is Luffy will fight Saturn, no one cares to argue every specific detail on how, it's just things point that way.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

So Lucci wasn’t the big villain of Ennies Lobby? It’s Spandam?

Saturn is not the one who’s been trying to kill Vegapunk all arc. Saturns literally only on the island right now to stop the pacifistas from attacking. Literally once Kizaru gets back up Saturns not going to tell him to stand down, Kizaru will go right back to killing Vegapunk which is the main conflict of the arc.

Enough!!! saturn is stronger than kizaru

 

[RecoomeBoom]

Kuma or some random robot beating Saturn is like saying Law beating Doffy in dressrosa or ZKK

It's never gonna happen as long as these guys are the main arc villain and the main character part of it.

Luffy is a D and is coincidentslly Nika, ultimate sworn enemy of the one Saturn worships, you jyst have to put 2 and 2 together.

Kuma has all that pain saved up to ass blast Saturn into another solar system. You know it's coming.

 

[Pringles]

So Lucci wasn’t the big villain of Ennies Lobby? It’s Spandam?

Saturn is not the one who’s been trying to kill Vegapunk all arc. Saturns literally only on the island right now to stop the pacifistas from attacking. Literally once Kizaru gets back up Saturns not going to tell him to stand down, Kizaru will go right back to killing Vegapunk which is the main conflict of the arc.

Holy shit, people who think that Kizaru is the main villain of Egghead probably belong in the same group than Zoro adCoC deniers

 

[Paperchampion23]

Semantics, point is Luffy will fight Saturn, no one cares to argue every specific detail on how, it's just things point that way.

Stop, you clearly do not understand the conversation being made here.

Luffy vs Saturn is not the point being argued, and Im not even talking about it in my arguments with anyone

 

[Sir Yasheen]

How did he know Saturn would be in Egghead two years in advance?

He didn’t know Saturn specifically but he knew that the gorosei would have to come personally to take the pacifistas from Egghead two years. Would also explain why Vegapunk set up the hierarchy like this if it was a trap in the end.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

So Lucci wasn’t the big villain of Ennies Lobby? It’s Spandam?

Saturn is not the one who’s been trying to kill Vegapunk all arc. Saturns literally only on the island right now to stop the pacifistas from attacking. Literally once Kizaru gets back up Saturns not going to tell him to stand down, Kizaru will go right back to killing Vegapunk which is the main conflict of the arc.

There's a stark difference between Spandam and Saturn. Spandam was always a non-combatant and never carried any sort of story significance like Saturn does. Saturn revealed himself to be the mastermind behind this incident and now he is personally dealing with the strawhats and vegapunk. Kizaru is the secondary antagonist cause his main thing was following orders and killing vegapunk, but he clearly doesn't want to do it on a personal level. Saturn on the other hand wants to kill everybody, and he represents a higher authority in both portrayal and power.

 

[Pringles]

He didn’t know Saturn specifically but he knew that the gorosei would have to come personally to take the pacifistas from Egghead two years. Would also explain why Vegapunk set up the hierarchy like this if it was a trap in the end.

Yes, Kuma knew 2 years in advance that CP7, CP8... wouldn't be sufficient to take down Vegapunk.

Kuma knew that CP0 would also not be sufficient.

More surprisingly, Kuma FORESHADOWED that Kizaru wouldn't be able to kill Vegapunk because of Nika's presence in Egghead.

Even more intriguingly, Kuma knew that Saturn would accompany Kizaru and that Saturn would land on Egghead after Kizaru fails his mission.

Kuma certainly has an advanced form of future sight /s.