One Piece Chapter 1097: "Ginny"

[NAMELESS]

Kuma's idol is Nika who liberates slaves from oppression.

What a more fitting way for Kuma to liberate Ginny from the oppression of the WG who just captured her this chapter, by removing her memories, changing her identity (Iva) and making her another person (her daughter)?

fair enough.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Ok, the more I think about it the more holes this theory has

1. How did Ginny turn into a child? Bonnet’s DF ability only ages you temporarily. If Ginny aged herself via DF she would have to constantly de aged herself to go back to being a child

2. She also calls Kuma her father several times after seeing his memories. If she knows the truth why she continues to call him her father?

1. Oda had Bonney mention specifically it’s only temporary on other people. Meaning the user can be permanently de aged.

2. She calls him that once but that’s because even though she saw kumas memories and know she was once Ginny, Bonney has no memories or feelings of when she was Ginny. She didn’t get Bonneys memories, just kumas. She’s still Bonney. And kuma is still her father.

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

I'd argue it's much worse than the Yamato gender debate. See the whole Rootbeer debacle for example

I missed it but based on people who clowning him on his profile, i kinda don't need to know about it

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

That proves nothing, Ace despised Roger and considered Whitebeard to be his real father.

This is a good point

 

[NAMELESS]

1. Oda had Bonney mention specifically it’s only temporary on other people. Meaning the user can be permanently de aged.

2. She calls him that once but that’s because even though she saw kumas memories and know she was once Ginny, Bonney has no memories or feelings of when she was Ginny. She didn’t get Bonneys memories, just kumas. She’s still Bonney. And kuma is still her father.

Bonney came out of the water a kid,Saturn called her a little girl and FB confirms she isn't an adult.You are correct regarding her DF.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Wouldn't she still have the Celestial Dragon Tattoo?

Iva doesn’t

 

[Peroroncino]

@AverageNamiEnjoyer where nami?

 

[Pringles]

Ok, the more I think about it the more holes this theory has

1. How did Ginny turn into a child? Bonney’s DF ability only ages you temporarily. If Ginny aged herself via DF she would have to constantly de aged herself to go back to being a child

2. She also calls Kuma her father several times after seeing his memories. If she knows the truth why she continues to call him her father?

1. It's not temporary aging, the devil fruit is the "aging fruit" so it's not only a temporary change.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719000509133058100

2. That's a good point but the memories may not cover specifically this part or Bonney may have just not gotten this part from Kuma's memories.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

even if Bonney have celestial dragon blood , I am sure real pure celestial dragons would kill her . They want to kill doflimingo guy even he brought his father head back .

Heck we have racist who hate half breed or mixed races.

The Celestial Dragons are the most racist mutherfuckers in the entire world.

Look at how racist people in the real world treat interracial marriage between people of their own race/tribe, and other races/tribes. They treat the interracial couples and their children like trash.

If anything, the CDs would want to erase children made between Celestial Dragons and other races/tribes.

Really wish this gross Bonney scenario had never been brought up.

 

[Roo]

Honestly the Ginny = Bonney theory seems like the fandom trying to make something so simple much more complicated.

We were introduced to the concept of clones in this arc. Bonney has some resemblance to Ginny and it doesn’t look like she was born from her. The obvious answer is she’s her clone and Kuma didn’t want her to know how she came to be

 

[Pringles]

Honestly the Ginny = Bonney theory seems like the fandom trying to make something so simple much more complicated.

We were introduced to the concept of clones in this arc. Bonney has some resemblance to Ginny and it doesn’t look like she was born from her. The obvious answer is she’s her clone and Kuma didn’t want her to know how she came to be

That doesn't look like a clone to me.

Ginny and Bonney don't have the exact same face.

If Bonney is not Ginny, then she most likely is just her daughter.

 

[Roo]

1. Oda had Bonney mention specifically it’s only temporary on other people. Meaning the user can be permanently de aged.

Not on other people, she specifically says on living things. That would include her

2. She calls him that once but that’s because even though she saw kumas memories and know she was once Ginny, Bonney has no memories or feelings of when she was Ginny. She didn’t get Bonneys memories, just kumas. She’s still Bonney. And kuma is still her father.

She called him that twice. Even if she’s more attached to the idea of Kuma being her father, if she knows the truth this is just outright weird

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Iva doesn’t

Hormones control skin to a good degree, apparently, it's possible Iva's Fruit could allow them to change their skin and remove the mark.

We now know why Kuma is always wearing a giant, thick coat, though, to make sure his mark isn't seen, because he despises it. Super sad.

 

[NAMELESS]

That doesn't look like a clone to me.

Ginny and Bonney don't have the exact same face.

If Bonney is not Ginny, then she most likely is just her daughter.

"Failed" Clone maybe.Vega can't replicate everything with 100% accuracy.

 

[Roo]

1. It's not temporary aging, the devil fruit is the "aging fruit" so it's not only a temporary change.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719000509133058100

2. That's a good point but the memories may not cover specifically this part or Bonney may have just not gotten this part from Kuma's memories.

1. Wrong, see above

2. Shes the one remembering this flashback

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

Iva doesn’t

thats genuinely one of oda's plot hole, i get it if he got another tattoo for covering CD slave tattoo just like Fisher Tiger did to Koala. But it didn't seem that way atleast. that's what makes me believe how Kuma can return to being a CD slave.
welp we better wait i guess

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That doesn't look like a clone to me.

Ginny and Bonney don't have the exact same face.

If Bonney is not Ginny, then she most likely is just her daughter.

Young Adult Ginny for sure got it

 

[Roo]

That doesn't look like a clone to me.

Ginny and Bonney don't have the exact same face.

If Bonney is not Ginny, then she most likely is just her daughter.

Look at Weevil and the Seraphim. Vega has shown he can experiment with the DNA. Bonney could be a mix of Ginny and Kuma’s non buccaneer blood

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

@AverageNamiEnjoyer where nami?

Soon!

 

[Croco boy]

I expect some good showing from him in fb but so far he's been bum every time he's on panel.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719728557159567452

 

[Woozles]

Iva doesn’t

This feels like an Oda fuck up since we're told they all have it.