Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zolo]

See..

Transphobic.

But you can't understand that, you have a far right bias.

look at there suicide rate... Thats why I said they need to find help. Im not treating anyone of them differently or have hate towards any group of people. I want to help them more than not

 

[NAMELESS]

Toby's arguments boil down to:" My college professors made me read these books written by lefties so this is the truth.Anything that deviates from this is BS". Lame.

 

[Logiko]

look at there suicide rate... Thats why I said they need to find help. Im not treating anyone of them differently or have hate towards any group of people. I want to help them more than not

Generally, a trans person commit suicide precisely because people like you are denying their identity. In other word, your ideology KILLS.

If you want to help them. Stop being hatefull. Read some science, stop listening to far right gurus, listen to LGBTQ+ members and accept their existence and identity. That's ALL you need to do to help them.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Academia is run by the left nowadays. They are guilt tripping the west into oblivion. Your "authorities" are a bunch of propaganda spreaders. Intellectual have been prostitutes ever since the french revolution happened. Marx vision was just propaganda in response to the growing power of the bourgeois(rich merchants).You said yourself you a no authority,so that makes you claims have the same weight as mine.
"Strictly defined definitions".You are never making it as a writer. English is not even my native language,but i don't write stupid things like these lol

Ok Dr. Nameless

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Academia is run by the left nowadays. They are guilt tripping the west into oblivion. Your "authorities" are a bunch of propaganda spreaders. Intellectual have been prostitutes ever since the french revolution happened. Marx vision was just propaganda in response to the growing power of the bourgeois(rich merchants).You said yourself you a no authority,so that makes you claims have the same weight as mine.
"Strictly defined definitions".You are never making it as a writer. English is not even my native language,but i don't write stupid things like these lol

Damn, I fucked up two words this time around even though you do it all the goddamn time and I don't call you out on it. I seriously don't understand how you play the civility card but don't even practice civility yourself even when I'm not out here insulting you. But this is what you always do. People who are actually knowledgeable and are well read call you out and as soon as you're backed into a corner you quickly change subjects in order to avoid giving a direct answer. All you have is "left-wing academia" and "You fucked up your writing dumbass"

Seriously SHAMELESS, I can't take you seriously. You are very clearly politically illiterate and a culture warrior. You're too far gone at this point.

 

[Zolo]

Generally, a trans person commit suicide precisely because people like you are denying their identity. In other word, your ideology KILLS.

If you want to help them. Stop being hatefull. Read some science, stop listening to far right gurus, listen to LGBTQ+ members and accept their existence and identity. That's ALL you need to do to help them.

I dont give a fuck , thats the best thing in the world, and most people dont give a fuck. and I dont want to give a fuck either. why they want to teach children this suicidal ideology ? why they want to confuse kids? I dont care about them but they should leave us alone too. and not preach in our face wearing slut makeup and shit

 

[Logiko]

I dont give a fuck , thats the best thing in the world, and most people dont give a fuck. and I dont want to give a fuck either

That's precisely the problem.

why they want to teach children this suicidal ideology ?

You are completely missunderstanding the problem here. First this is not an ideology so stop this nonsensical and transphobic BS. Second, they are suicidal because of people like you mate. So YOU (and others) are the problem, not them.

why they want to confuse kids?

Your far rightism is showing lol.
THe famous far right trope that trans are "confusing" kids.

Nobody is confusing anyone but you here.

I dont care about them but they should leave us alone too

Maybe you should start by leaving them alone and accepting them. Take your own fudging advice mate. Why should they have to deal with the lacks of you guys. Leave them alone and accept their existence.

preach in our face wearing slut makeup and shit

Poor thing. You are afraid of makeup ?

 

[NAMELESS]

Damn, I fucked up two words this time around even though you do it all the goddamn time and I don't call you out on it. I seriously don't understand how you play the civility card but don't even practice civility yourself even when I'm not out here insulting you. But this is what you always do. People who are actually knowledgeable and are well read call you out and as soon as you're backed into a corner you quickly change subjects in order to avoid giving a direct answer. All you have is "left-wing academia" and "You fucked up your writing dumbass"

Seriously SHAMELESS, I can't take you seriously. You are very clearly politically illiterate and a culture warrior. You're too far gone at this point.

Are Russia and China democracies?Is Venezuela a democracy right now?Answer these.

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That's precisely the problem.



You are completely missunderstanding the problem here. First this is not an ideology so stop this nonsensical and transphobic BS. Second, they are suicidal because of people like you mate. So YOU (and others) are the problem, not them.



Your far rightism is showing lol.
THe famous far right trope that trans are "confusing" kids.

Nobody is confusing anyone but you here.



Maybe you should start by leaving them alone and accepting them. Take your own fudging advice mate. Why should they have to deal with the lacks of you guys. Leave them alone and accept their existence.


Poor thing. You are afraid of makeup ?

How is it his fault if other people have mental illness?

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Generally, a trans person commit suicide precisely because people like you are denying their identity. In other word, your ideology KILLS.

If you want to help them. Stop being hatefull. Read some science, stop listening to far right gurus, listen to LGBTQ+ members and accept their existence and identity. That's ALL you need to do to help them.

Stop denying your furry identity C4N.
I don't want to backtrack through thousands of comments to reveal why you created this fake LGBT persona, but you're are really going overboard with this character/identity.

 

[NAMELESS]

@Toby D. Dog wtf is a culture warrior?

 

[Zolo]

Stop denying your furry identity C4N.
I don't want to backtrack through thousands of comments to reveal why you created this fake LGBT persona, but you're are really going overboard with this character/identity.

O shi this is carrot ? Damn . I should of known

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Are Russia and China democracies?Is Venezuela a democracy right now?Answer these.

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How is it his fault if other people have mental illness?

And I show my support that I want them to get actual real help. And not encouradgment into mutilation and physical ireversable change

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

O shi this is carrot ? Damn . I should of known

How did you not realise sooner?

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Actually, here is when he started creating the persona, or around that.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-and-the-grand-fleet.79/page-868#post-2582089

 

[Zolo]

How did you not realise sooner?

After I was banned for 3 month a lot users changed there names but still thats no excuse on my part. I should do more brain training now after body training

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Are Russia and China democracies?Is Venezuela a democracy right now?Answer these.

This has absolutley nothing to do with what we're talking about. You sound like a CNN or FOX NEWS pundit tweaking about VENEZUELA!!! or CUBA!!!!!

This is not a response G. Just because those are authoritarian left wing governments doesn't mean that the definitions of communism and socialism are changing. Now just stop, I'm genuinely getting second hand embarrassment with how incredibly similar your line of reasoning is to mainstream media pundits whenever they're faced with facts that are counter-productive to their narrative.

 

[NAMELESS]

This has absolutley nothing to do with what we're talking about. You sound like a CNN or FOX NEWS pundit tweaking about VENEZUELA!!! or CUBA!!!!!

This is not a response G. Just because those are authoritarian left wing governments doesn't mean that the definitions of communism and socialism are changing. Now just stop, I'm genuinely getting second hand embarrassment with how incredibly similar your line of reasoning is to mainstream media pundits whenever they're faced with facts that are counter-productive to their narrative.

Answer the question!What kind of regimes do they have in those countries?We were talking about what is and what isn't communism.China's party is literally a communist party and yet "no monopoly of means of production".Your definitions are obsolete.The Chinese themselves are creating a new version of communist ideology.Communists have historically denied their previous failed attempt was real Marxism and claimed their new spin of the ideology was the true one.You keep deflecting,because you know i'm right.Ask @Zolo how things worked in his country back in the USSR days.He can teach you a thing or two about communism.

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Damn, I fucked up two words this time around even though you do it all the goddamn time and I don't call you out on it. I seriously don't understand how you play the civility card but don't even practice civility yourself even when I'm not out here insulting you. But this is what you always do. People who are actually knowledgeable and are well read call you out and as soon as you're backed into a corner you quickly change subjects in order to avoid giving a direct answer. All you have is "left-wing academia" and "You fucked up your writing dumbass"

Seriously SHAMELESS, I can't take you seriously. You are very clearly politically illiterate and a culture warrior. You're too far gone at this point.

You don't know the meaning of civility btw.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Answer the question!What kind of regimes do they have in those countries?We were talking about what is and what isn't communism.China's party is literally a communist party and yet "no monopoly of means of production".Your definitions are obsolete.The Chinese themselves are creating a new version of communist ideology.Communists have historically denied their previous failed attempt was real Marxism and claimed their new spin of the ideology was the true one.You keep deflecting,because you know i'm right.Ask @Zolo how things worked in his country back in the USSR days.He can teach you a thing or two about communism.

I quote my last post "Just because those are authoritarian left wing governments doesn't mean that the definitions of communism and socialism are changing"

I answered the question.

Your idea of communism is simply state control and authoritarianism. Which are completely separate things. If you can't understand the difference between privately owned means of production and state owned means of production then idk what to tell you.

 

[Zolo]

I quote my last post "Just because those are authoritarian left wing governments doesn't mean that the definitions of communism and socialism are changing"

I answered the question.

Your idea of communism is simply state control and authoritarianism. Which are completely separate things. If you can't understand the difference between privately owned means of production and state owned means of production then idk what to tell you.

Have you ever read lenins book about economy ? All large business that create monopolies and become too big are the new government in calitalist countries .

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Have you ever read lenins book about economy ? All large business that create monopolies and become too big are the new government in calitalist countries .

rephrase this, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

 

[Zolo]

rephrase this, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Yeah I need to reprhase it better , sorry sleep is overcoming me. You should really read books by those old leaders . Just for self research, it wont change your opinion but you will have more personal view

 

[NAMELESS]

I quote my last post "Just because those are authoritarian left wing governments doesn't mean that the definitions of communism and socialism are changing"

I answered the question.

Your idea of communism is simply state control and authoritarianism. Which are completely separate things. If you can't understand the difference between privately owned means of production and state owned means of production then idk what to tell you.

Are you dumb or what?You are basically telling me the Chinese are poser/fake communists.Russia and China are literally still run by communist parties.They have both private and state owned corporations.What you don't get through that dense head of yours is that there are other models of communism that diverge from classical Marxism.Russia and China abandoned the Marxist model of economy because it doesn't work.