Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zenos7]

So yeah, not impossible, but "if [atheism] descends" then you agree that it can become naive?

It is impossible, atheism doesnt imply any views about humans or the galaxy or whatever.

Atheism is naive and unreasonable when its about making positive statements about the inexistence of god

 

[Fn Lucci]

They communicate via Pheromones. Thats how they "know" who is part of their colony and who isnt

Yes. Ants cannot conceptualize us, but they can understand that we're not the terrain and we're not food. They understand living beings and the threat we possess by pheromones.

So, saying that humans are ants gets into a weird and largely weak territory of downplay. The fact that we have the brains to even create such questions in itself is extraordinary.

 

[Roo]

"Rules" that weren't created? Bruh.

Also I'm pretty sure ants know they're ants. They don't just bite random shit in defense lol.

Think of it like like being born in a box. There are boundaries we can’t escape, we notice that light gets to us at different times. Those things are what we call “rules”. Nobody created them, they’re just the boundaries of how our universe work.

 

[Okamakama]

You called them criminals and I said they weren't.

You know who else has guns? The IDF and settlers, who actively terrorize these people.

They have every right for self defense, as decreed by the UN.

Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. - Romans 12:19

Leave it not up to them to show wrath, but for god to judge who is righteous. We are not his arbiters. but his humble servants.

 

[Fn Lucci]

It is impossible, atheism doesnt imply any views about humans or the galaxy or whatever.

Atheism is naive and unreasonable when its about making positive statements about the inexistence of god

If it's impossible, then there is no "when" lol. Devil fruits are impossible, so I can't talk about when someone eats one, y'know? I don't say what any number of people believe but you can be certain that some people believe there is positively no god

 

[Roo]

So, saying that humans are ants gets into a weird and largely weak territory of downplay. The fact that we have the brains to even create such questions in itself is extraordinary.

it’s not, it is the reality.

The universe is massive, in the grand scheme of things we are an ant colony

 

[Fn Lucci]

Think of it like like being born in a box. There are boundaries we can’t escape, we notice that light gets to us at different times. Those things are what we call “rules”. Nobody created them, they’re just the boundaries of how our universe work.

The only examples you seem to give are of constructs that were intentionally created by a process with a creator. Rules, box, etc.

 

[Okamakama]

Quote your favourite piece of scripture!

 

[NAMELESS]

it’s not, it is the reality.

The universe is massive, in the grand scheme of things we are an ant colony

smaller than that even actually

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it’s not, it is the reality.

The universe is massive, in the grand scheme of things we are an ant colony

and yet we are defying the universe and we are the only planet we are aware of that holds life in it.The fact that we are alive is absurd.

 

[Roo]

The only examples you seem to give are of constructs that were intentionally created by a process with a creator. Rules, box, etc.

No I gave you an example of what we call rules, which are basically what we call the boundaries of our universe. Boxes are natural phenomena, they’re not all created by sentient beings. You keep going back to the idea that someone had to put those things there when it isn’t necessarily the case

 

[Okamakama]

smaller than that even actually

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and yet we are defying the universe and we are the only planet we are aware of that holds life in it.The fact that we are alive is absurd.

We're blessed.

 

[Fn Lucci]

it’s not, it is the reality.

The universe is massive, in the grand scheme of things we are an ant colony

Ants don't search for other ant colonies.

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No I gave you an example of what we call rules, which are basically what we call the boundaries of our universe. Boxes are natural phenomena, they’re not all created by sentient beings. You keep going back to the idea that someone had to put those things there when it isn’t necessarily the case

I do that because I'm drawing a blank: what is a box that wasn't created?

 

[Roo]

Ants don't search for other ant colonies.

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I’m pretty sure they do, some ants take in slaves from other colonies

I do that because I'm drawing a blank: what is a box that wasn't created?

???

a natural rock formation can form a box like figure. 4 sides and one opening for the light to come in

 

[Logiko]

@JohnnyBme @Okamakama @Zenos7 @NAMELESS @Roo @Fn Lucci

Please, let us continue this discussion about religion on this THREAD instead

But do you think god doesnt/cant exist?

The concept of god exist. But the question you need to ask yourself is, "what is a god ?"

I think that this question is not answerable, therefore a god can't exist.

@TheAncientCenturion @AL sama @Doggo , or anyone else, can you move the religious discussion under this thread please ? It will be better to have this thread here to talk about those subjects instead of doing that in the political thread.

 

[notAfanboy]

Its not hypothetical scenarios, you arent getting what im talking about lmao.

Its not my interpretation either. Death sentence for apostates is part of mainstream sunni islam, its in the hadith. Most popular muslim apologists dont even try to deny this. In the case of ali dawah, he even boasts about it and says muslims are proud of this fact.

And muslims still practice islam in many different ways, and you doing a no-true-scotsman doesnt change that.

Yes, those who oppose this practice also use verses from Quran itself.

True, Islam takes punishments seriously, like cutting hands of theives.

It is like a deterrent; like USA nuked Japan or how countries have nuclear weapons.

 

[Okamakama]

Yes, those who oppose this practice also use verses from Quran itself.

True, Islam takes punishments seriously, like cutting hands of theives.

It is like a deterrent; like USA nuked Japan or how countries have nuclear weapons.

I feel compelled to repost this:

Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. - Romans 12:19

 

[Logiko]

I feel compelled to repost this:

Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. - Romans 12:19

Can you post that here ?

 

[Okamakama]

Can you post that here ?

Politics and religion go hand in hand. No.

 

[Logiko]

Politics and religion go hand in hand. No.

If you really wanna talk about politic and religion then yes. We can talk about the impact of religion on politic.

But here, you are simply quoting your sacred texts. This is not about politic. So please, be respectfull of those who want to talk about politic here and go do that in peace to the place create for it. :)

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Amor a Luna my Bunnies​