Straw men, straw men everywhere
Why yall gotta downplay Zhaogang by accusing us of downplaying the Qin 6 lol? No member of the Zhaogang downplayed the Qin 6 or said they weren’t equals in ability to the Zhao 3. What we said is that the 3 Great Heavens
as a group have the most impeccable record among commanders of any state. Let’s look at defeats that the Qin 6 have suffered:
-Kyou was killed by Houken (3GH)
-Oukotsu was overwhelmingly defeated by Kanmei
-Ouki was defeated and killed by Hou-boku (3GH)
-The whole fucking Qin army (Ousen, Yotanwa, and Kanki) was defeated by Riboku last year, and Kanki was killed and his forces exterminated (again by a single 3GH)
-Duke Hyou was killed by Hou-boku (3GH)
So we’ve historically had 11 Qin 6 members and 5 have been overwhelmingly directly beaten, even if we don’t count Ousen and Yotanwa in the Gian loss.
Now let’s look at Chu Great Generals:
-Kanmei was killed by Moubu
So we’ve literally only ever heard of 2 Chu GGs and Moubu killed one of them.
Now let’s look at the defeats of the Zhao 3:
-Renpa was beaten by Ousen and Kanki (and Mougou <3)
-Riboku was beaten by Sei’s miracle at Sai
-Riboku was defeated by Tou Jou in the Gyou campaign (you are literally a peak liar if you say Ousen won this shit lmfao).
-Houken was killed by Shin
-Gekishin was beaten by other 3GH members but I think this one shouldn’t count as it was at the hands of other 3GH members lol.
And that’s literally it. Including Gekishin, we’ve had 7 Great Heaven members historically, and only 3 of them have suffered defeats. Only Renpa and Houken were beaten by other commanders outright, the others were defeated by Zhao and Qin kings and Shin respectively. So even if we include Riboku’s losses, that is 3 of 7 3GH members who have suffered known defeats.
So if we convert these defeats to L ratios, the Qin 6 had a 45% L ratio, Chu has a 50%, and the 3GH have a 42%. So literally the 3GH have mathematically loss to enemy commanders less than any other known group of top tier commanders.
And the ratios look much worse if we look at historical spoilers. Historically the Zhao 3 bodied the Qin 6 harder than they are right now but we won’t get into that just yet.
Casual reminder that Hakuki literally killed himself as soon as he faced an unwinnable battle but even disregarding that:
Remind me who it was who stalled out
both Hakuki and Ouki for two fucking years at Chouhei? Obviously Hakuki >= Renpa but Hakuki had two years and Ouki to defeat Renpa and failed. Literally the Zhao court had to step in and defeat Renpa on Hakuki and Ouki’s behalf.
I love how you have to just pretend the manga didn’t directly state that Rinshoujou was equal to Renpa to make this point lmfao. Why you gotta downplay Rinshoujou to make the Qin 6 look good? Ask yourself that question.
But yes Ouki = Renpa as well.
Why Sakazouki?
Why? Because the Qin had King Shou to lead them while the Zhao had King Tard. The Qin 6 were only as dominant as they were because King Shou allowed them to be that dominant while the other states suffered from King’s as deluded as your average Ousen fan and their own generals literally killing each other.
But on an unrelated note, yes I do firmly believe (or at least hope) that Shibashou will be Ousen’s EOS vassal lol. Ousen deserves nothing less than the strongest warrior in China as his vassal.
