Controversial General Political Discussion

[Gaimon The Pirate]

No, they are legit, you just choose to allow LGBTQ+ phobia here. It seems to be due to a very low level of education on those matters. After all there is a certain far-right/extrem centrism inspired pattern emerging with you and some of your fellow mods here, the denonciation of "wokeness", the "turning a blind eye" in front of clear lgbtq+phobia, the denial of the problematics of the proliferation of the far right ideology in the public sphere, the volontary depolitization of the public debate, the equalization of far rights ideas with far lefts ideas, the denial of systemic problems such as systemic racism or the patriarchy .. etc..

This is sad and revolting, but this is expected with the moderation here.

You can always leave, just like you vowed to do, but looks like you have two words.
But i realise you probably have nobody else to talk to, if you prefer to waste your time coming here and be ridiculed.

 

[Zolo]

You can always leave, just like you vowed to do, but looks like you have two words.
But i realise you probably have nobody else to talk to, if you prefer to waste your time coming here and be ridiculed.

We all know he wont leave. He enjoys being loughed at. its Like hes fetish

 

[Daniel]

 

[Logiko]

You can always leave, just like you vowed to do, but looks like you have two words.
But i realise you probably have nobody else to talk to, if you prefer to waste your time coming here and be ridiculed.

I have other plans :)

yeah cry

Confirming what I'm saying

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

@AL sama it is not that i don't want to talk with him, but every time he posts the thread gets derailed and everything has to be about him.
Can nothing be done about it.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

@AL sama it is not that i don't want to talk with him, but every time he posts the thread gets derailed and everything has to be about him.
Can nothing be done about it.

Who? C4n?

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Who? C4n?

Yes.
Before he spammed in the last weeks it used to be a decent thread.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Yes.
Before he spammed in the last weeks it used to be a decent thread.

This has never been a decent thread

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

This has never been a decent thread

I disagree, or at least it was possible to talk.
Now we have to engage with an egotistic man-child that has to talk about himself on a thread about politics. Who is ALWAYS off topic.

 

[Logiko]

@AL sama it is not that i don't want to talk with him, but every time he posts the thread gets derailed and everything has to be about him.
Can nothing be done about it.

Do you really want me to analyse the thread and see who is really making this thread about me and not the facts and how ? That can be done.. For example here, I was making a political observation about the lack of caring for the mods for sensitive subject, but you are the one talking about me when I'm not even adressing you. Worse, there are two post of other people literally ad personaming me without reasons.

I admit that I'm the one directing the conversation, always have. But the conversation is never about me, its about other people suffering, about Gaza against the oppression of Israel, about the LGBTQ+ against bigots, about muslim against Islamophobes, about artists against AI, about the left against the far right, about poor against capitalism.

I may be giving you subject to talk about but I'm not the one making this thread about me, you guys are. Simply because you can't face real problems.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I admit that I'm the one directing the conversation, always have.

Yeah kinda no sorry

 

[Logiko]

Yeah kinda no sorry

If you say so ...

 

[Tensub]

Do you really want me to analyse the thread and see who is really making this thread about me and not the facts and how ? That can be done.. For example here, I was making a political observation about the lack of caring for the mods for sensitive subject, but you are the one talking about me when I'm not even adressing you. Worse, there are two post of other people literally ad personaming me without reasons.

I admit that I'm the one directing the conversation, always have. But the conversation is never about me, its about other people suffering, about Gaza against the oppression of Israel, about the LGBTQ+ against bigots, about muslim against Islamophobes, about artists against AI, about the left against the far right, about poor against capitalism.

I may be giving you subject to talk about but I'm not the one making this thread about me, you guys are. Simply because you can't face real problems.

Have you been diagnosed with NPD?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

If you say so ...

You're not the leader here my bunny

 

[Zolo]

Carrot is still here. He will solo stop everyone engaging in this thread

 

[Logiko]

You want me to talk about me.. ? Fine, let's go...

Have you been diagnosed with NPD?

No but your psychophobia is showing :)

You're not the leader here my bunny

Why does it need to be about power ? I'm not the one in power here, the mods are. Its not about leadership.

I'm not directing most of the conversation because I want to lead or because I hold some kind of power. I'm directing most of the conversation because I bring a leftist thinking to a pool of confusionnism, extrem-centrism, liberal and sometimes far right ideas. The reasons I can do that is because people are reacting to a vision they dislike.

You can look back for example my initial post to the issue of Hogward Legacy.

As no one is talking, let me grab the conversation for a moment.

So you all know that "Hogwarts Legacy" (the Harry Potter Universe's game) is coming up soon on february 10.

While I won't say to you "do not buy the game" (for reasons I will developp later) as you are all entitle to your opinions and choices of freetime, I think it's important to replace this game into its context.

First you must know one thing: People who worked on the game have already been paid. What you might not know on the other hand is that some people will receive money from copyright ownership. In short, the more the game will be sold, the more the money going to them. And among those people is - you guessed it - J K Rowling. Now I will talk about J K Rowling later but I want to talk about another subject first as I will try to be as inclusive as I can on this subject I will start at the basics:


Do you know who Transgender people are ?

It's okay if you don't, until a few years ago, I was completely oblivious to them and their struggles. First, a bit of basic:

As you may have understood here. It's important to separate sex and gender as those notion are scientifically and sociologically different.

Now, what being a Transgender really means ? I won't explain it to you, I will let Trans people tell you all about it:

From a science approach:

To a sociological approach:

It's important to understand that being Transgender is NOT a mental illness.

Therefore, all transgender people are VALID. They ALL deserve the same rights as Cisgender People. They deserve the same right as you and me.

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What is important here, is to understand that Trans people are DISCRIMINATED and OPPRESSED by our differents societies:

For diverse act of violence against trans people:

To people who are trying to criminilize Trans communities or those who help them through moral panics:

https://youtu.be/6r-Uga_oR28

https://youtu.be/oAeKAJFrb0w

https://youtu.be/ErRmflBW4Zk

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This is where we need to talk about J K Rowling.

You see J K Rowling is now an well know anti Trans activist. She is what we call a "TERF", "a Trans-exclusionary radical feminist". "A person whose views on gender identity are considered hostile to transgender people, or who opposes social and political policies designed to be inclusive of transgender people."

https://youtu.be/_GBUArD51KY?t=817

Terf are known to be transphobe, this is not a news. But what is starting to become more concerning is the fact that this transphobe ideology (and JK Rowling as well as her followers) is starting to flirt with really DARK movements: the alt-right and fascist kinds.

(This following one is actually quite horrific)

https://youtu.be/Ou_xvXJJk7k

https://youtu.be/XyODMw6Xm-8


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This is where WE can have an influence:

You see, by refusing to finance those people, we are actually lessening the probabilities of those dark transphobes ideology to be shared. That's why it's important to understand where your money will go once you buy property owned by those type of people.

https://youtu.be/rdfNQIOIReU

This is not a thread meant to culpabilize you. You would be completely legitimate to buy a game like Hogward Legacy, after all it looks like a cool game and I would LOVE to play it also.. but...

At least, you have the context.

While it might be the best Harry Potter game. Buying that game, is beneficial to the anti trans politics.

Now, You have all the informations to make a good choice.

In this post i'm doing four simple things:
- I explain who trans people are
- I explain who terf are and why we must fight them
- I explain the problem of financing transphobia
- I explain that its ok to play the game and enjoy it anyway

This meltown (95 pages from feb 2 to feb 5, 2023 > the moment I was threadbanned because I would not stop giving hell to transphobes there) gave birth to what the thread is today. The reason it created so much discussions (and it continued a while after I was gone) is simple: Transphobes reacted and tried to explain why being transphobic was the way to go.

So... My only sin is to be a leftist here

But it has its advantage. For example, this...

Exactly.

Then, do you think that I could have my thread back ?

Or I don't know.. A entire political/religion/controversial section could be a good idea too ..

.. is the reason why I didn't leave this forum. I proved that even in an hostile and toxic rightist environment. Progress can still strive as long as you don't give up and those in power are giving a hand.

And that those who want to shut down or slow down progress

I'll keep merging them doesn't matter what tac says

Will only taste history.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I'm directing most of the conversation

You are not

Will only taste history

What does this even mean? Are you practicing your villain speech?

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

You are not

What does this even mean? Are you practicing your villain speech?

He thinks himself as a scholar and a righteous example, he is borderlkne psicothic and clearly a narcissist.
Biggest example the fact that he clearly depicts himself as morally superior to everyone else.
What a sad person.

 

[Logiko]

You are not

Just proved you by A+B that I already did that. But I don't really care about the conversation. I'm just bringing up subject I'm passionate about. If the forum was not a toxic place, what I say wouldn't attract as much attention as it would be just normal.

You are not

What does this even mean? Are you practicing your villain speech?

he is borderlkne psicothic and clearly a narcissist.

Not bordeline, I'm AM psychotic. But not in your psychophobic vision. My psychosis only negates my motivation, nothing more.

Do I hate being the center of attention ? Of course not, I like that, it gives me a bit of reconfort in fact in my situation... But I'm not the one making this thread about me, you guys are. Simply because its easier to attack me as a person, rather that dealing with the real arguments and sometimes the reality of the toxicity of this forum.

It will change, but it needs time.

Am I morally superior or a sad person ? I don't think so.. but observe who is attacking who on their mental capacity here...