Questions & Mysteries How was Blackbeard able to do what Mihawk couldn't?

How is this possible?

  • Pre-Yami Blackbeard is stronger than Mihawk

    Votes: 26 63.4%
  • Blackbeard tricked Shanks

    Votes: 15 36.6%

  • Total voters
    41
Sword skill and haki are not the same thing, you'd have to literally be a retard to think that, does a swordsman without haki just have zero skill?

Sure haki and sword skill can go together, but haki can go together with anything, martial arts skill doesn't suddenly also encompass haki just because haki exists.
Haki becomes part of sword skill when used with swordsmanship. It's no different than footwork. When used with boxing it becomes part of boxing.
 
Haki becomes part of sword skill when used with swordsmanship. It's no different than footwork. When used with boxing it becomes part of boxing.
That's your opinion, which is wrong.

Haki can be used in conjunction with anything, but sword skill is still a separate thing just like martial arts skill is still a separate thing.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Sword skill and haki are not the same thing, you'd have to literally be a retard to think that, does a swordsman without haki just have zero skill?

Sure haki and sword skill can go together, but haki can go together with anything, martial arts skill doesn't suddenly also encompass haki just because haki exists.
Zoro literally cannot even use enma a sword without using haki. So no they absolutely are when it comes to swordsman.
 
Zoro literally cannot even use enma a sword without using haki. So no they absolutely are when it comes to swordsman.
Enma is a unique sword so it's the exception, not the rule.

Sword skill has nothing to do with haki at all, if Oda wanted to say Mihawk had better haki than Shanks then he'd have explicitly said haki, but no, he gives Mihawk the vastly inferior "sword skill" lmao.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Enma is a unique sword so it's the exception, not the rule.

Sword skill has nothing to do with haki at all, if Oda wanted to say Mihawk had better haki than Shanks then he'd have explicitly said haki, but no, he gives Mihawk the vastly inferior "sword skill" lmao.
Lmfao checkmate.

If sword skill has NOTHING to do with haki why did the 2 teachers of zoro who taught him in their words swordsmanship and the way of the sword ONLY teach him haki or the concepts of haki ?

Teaches swordsmanship = actual lesson is ryou haki

Teaches the way of the sword

Actual lesson is haki only

So according to 2 teachers including the wss
Swordsmanship is haki and the way of the sword is haki.

I own you.
 
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Cruxroux

I have literally Debunked this shit.

- Shanks 15 years ago , at Roger Execution didn't had the scar (24 years ago)
- shanks came to Yassop to recruit him after two years of Roger execution (22 Years ago) 17 year old Shanks.
- Means around that time their crew was started , their "Jolly Roger" has shanks with Scar. They can't have Guessed the scar with Future Sight lmao.
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- Shanks hiding his Scar , in the above , means he got it between the age of 15-17.

- now to make this concrete , BB weapon was last seen in fishmen island when WBP took over which was again over 20 years ago , most probably after Roger execution Pirates influx increased.
So again around 22-23 years ago. Same age I said shanks got the scar.

Blackbeard fought a very weak shanks , Mihawk fought the strongest possible shanks.
That's the difference.
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Enma is a unique sword so it's the exception, not the rule.

Sword skill has nothing to do with haki at all, if Oda wanted to say Mihawk had better haki than Shanks then he'd have explicitly said haki, but no, he gives Mihawk the vastly inferior "sword skill" lmao.
He didn't said shanks haki is superior to Mihawk either lmao.
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Watch him run away now , I countered his Blackbeard thread as well with this. 🤷🤷
Watch him cope now.
 
Lmfao checkmate.

If sword skill has NOTHING to do with haki why did the 2 teachers of zoro who taught him in their words swordsmanship and the way of the sword ONLY teach him haki or the concepts of haki ?

Teaches swordsmanship = actual lesson is ryou haki

Teaches the way of the sword

Actual lesson is haki only

So according to 2 teachers including the wss
Swordsmanship is haki and the way of the sword is haki.

I own you.
You're so stupid lmfao, "checkmate"

Those panels prove absolutely nothing, I already told you that swords skill and haki can go together, because haki can go with anything, but sword skill and haki are still separate things, so when Mihawk is stated to have greater sword skill than Shanks, that has nothing to do with haki at all.
 
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Cruxroux

You're so stupid lmfao, "checkmate"

Those panels prove absolutely nothing, I already told you that swords skill and haki can go together, because haki can go with anything, but sword skill and haki are still separate things, so when Mihawk is stated to have greater sword skill than Shanks, that has nothing to do with haki at all.
You just said sword skill and haki can go together.

So
Strong Sword skill + Haki = Strong attack
Weak Sword skill + Haki = Weak Attack

Doesn't that already prove Mihawk > Shanks as well lmao.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
You're so stupid lmfao, "checkmate"

Those panels prove absolutely nothing, I already told you that swords skill and haki can go together, because haki can go with anything, but sword skill and haki are still separate things, so when Mihawk is stated to have greater sword skill than Shanks, that has nothing to do with haki at all.
Sure sure

Mihawk teaching zoro the WAY OF THE SWORD and it being haki

And koshiro teaching zoro swordsmanship AND IT ALSO BEING HAKI

Have nothing to do with swordsmanship including haki
 
That's your opinion, which is wrong.

Haki can be used in conjunction with anything, but sword skill is still a separate thing just like martial arts skill is still a separate thing.
It's not my opinion, it's facts. You don't know anything about martial arts or fighting.

Boxing isn't the only fighting style that footwork. That doesn't mean footwork isn't part of boxing just because I use it with boxing. Whatever technique and skills use with a fighting style is part of that fighting style.
 
Sure sure

Mihawk teaching zoro the WAY OF THE SWORD and it being haki

And koshiro teaching zoro swordsmanship AND IT ALSO BEING HAKI

Have nothing to do with swordsmanship including haki
Again, haki can be applied to anything, martial arts are still martial arts separate from haki, sword skill is still sword skill seperate from haki.
 
You're so stupid lmfao, "checkmate"

Those panels prove absolutely nothing, I already told you that swords skill and haki can go together, because haki can go with anything, but sword skill and haki are still separate things, so when Mihawk is stated to have greater sword skill than Shanks, that has nothing to do with haki at all.
If Mihawk uses haki with his fighting style or swordsmanship than it's part of his sword skills.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Again, haki can be applied to anything, martial arts are still martial arts separate from haki, sword skill is still sword skill seperate from haki.
Again this is a deflection.

Mihawk LITERALLY TAUGHT ZORO THE WAY OF THE SWORD as he said himself train zoro to eventually beat him and he taught him 0 sword skill just haki
 
No it isn't, it's like saying if a character uses haki when they punch then haki is now a part of physical strength, braindead.
No, it becomes part of his fighting style.

This is definition of swordsmanship: Swordsmanship or sword fighting refers to the skills and techniques used in combat and training with any type of sword.

There's more to throwing a punch than physical strength. Technique and form plays a role. As I said, you know nothing about martial arts.
 
No, it becomes part of his fighting style.

This is definition of swordsmanship: Swordsmanship or sword fighting refers to the skills and techniques used in combat and training with any type of sword.

There's more to throwing a punch than physical strength. Technique and form plays a role. As I said, you know nothing about martial arts.
No it doesn't, they're separate things.

Sword skill refers to how skillfull one is at using a sword, nothing to do with haki.

You don't need technique or form to throw a punch, I didn't say a skillfull punch moron.
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0. You're getting embarrassed
Idk bro, this is Zorogen and Posthawk is getting molested in the poll right now, I'd say it's your entire fandom that's getting embarassed, but it's such a regular occurence that I doubt you mind.
 
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