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I've also seen people have an issue with Man'U dominating that duel but this is the Chu hype we've all been wanting for...
Problem with Man’U is shitty writing if I’m being real
Moubu is the strongest in China, and Man’U is a scrub weaker than the giant of Chu Kanmei. Problem is, Hara ran out of options pretty quick with Moubu’s character, and had to half ass an enigmatic Man’U to create some mental challenge for Moubu.
 
Can’t wait to see Kou En right hand or main general, the man must be fucking great

i expect nothing less than a Tou lol
Kou En currently likely has the best set of vassals in the entire manga. Probably each one of them would be a powerful Great General in another state and I think he has at least one subordinate that could become part of the Qin Six/Zhao Three. Whoever his right hand man is, you can bet on him being a monster of the highest order.

I'm worried for how strong Kou En and his army are gonna be. Lol.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
You can think Rokuomi is not that great of a general overall (tactics etc) but underestimating him as a warrior is an other thing

Rokuomi would bully Shin lite, would bully Sou’Ou too

He is likely in league with Batei / Shi Ryou etc. His stat put him even higher
‘And you can see that Rokuomi has been growing since the beginning of the manga, has a leader, a fighter etc.

Rokuomi tenacity and will is great
 
The Juuko arc felt weird
I showed up 2 chapters ago and i'm gonna slap around the strongest man in China while my femboy boyfriend clowns Wei's second strongest warrior and Ouki's number 2 commander at the same time
It felt inconsistent but i guess we'll see how it continues
Man' U doesn't even seem like a major antagonist or a significant obstacle for Chu's conquest
I could even see Moubu taking care of him as a side quest
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Kou En currently likely has the best set of vassals in the entire manga. Probably each one of them would be a powerful Great General in another state and I think he has at least one subordinate that could become part of the Qin Six/Zhao Three. Whoever his right hand man is, you can bet on him being a monster of the highest order.

I'm worried for how strong Kou En and his army are gonna be. Lol.
If SBS is getting these guys as vassals while being unknown and never having left his city you can bet your ass the man in charge of Chu's military will have some of the scariest mf's commanding his troops
Oh i actually fired Kanmei because he wasn't strong enough to make it as one of my 5 lieutenants
 
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You can think Rokuomi is not that great of a general overall (tactics etc) but underestimating him as a warrior is an other thing

Rokuomi would bully Shin lite, would bully Sou’Ou too

He is likely in league with Batei / Shi Ryou etc. His stat put him even higher
‘And you can see that Rokuomi has been growing since the beginning of the manga, has a leader, a fighter etc.

Rokuomi tenacity and will is great
Rokuomi is definitely no pushover, man was fighting Rinbunkun almost evenly for some time while dodging 10 bows arrows
 
Rokuomi is definitely no pushover, man was fighting Rinbunkun almost evenly for some time while dodging 10 bows arrows
He has become a meme and maybe doesn't compare with some of the vassals of other top tier Gg's because he was introduced too early but he is a decent general probably on par with the Sou'Ou or the Denrimi's of the world
Look at Gokei's vassals and compare them to Seika generals
Getting introduced early sucks
 
He has become a meme and maybe doesn't compare with some of the vassals of other top tier Gg's because he was introduced too early but he is a decent general probably on par with the Sou' Ou or the Denrimi's of the world
Look at Gokei's vassals and compare them to Seika generals
Getting introduced early sucks
True words, recency bias claims even the most enlightened of fandoms
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
I also think Rinbukun is an above average Chu general for being chosen to lead a Coalition Army, but on average, the average Chu general >>> other states.
Rinbukun himself was far above the average general. If the average general is like Eibei level, well that guy was one shot by Rinko. Rinbukun had an extended fight with Tou. Lol

If I had to rank Rinbukun among the Juukou gang, I would do it like this:

Man’U > Sento’Un > Rinbukun > Gen’U ~ Juukou’Ou

Imo it is not that Rinbukun was one of the stronger Chu generals that made them select him for Coalition, it is the fact that he was loyal to Chu. Man’U for example had no loyalties to Chu at all. They couldn’t make him lead the Coalition army because he wouldn’t have done so.

So by that logic, Chu probably has plenty of stronger generals than Rinbukun who simply hold no loyalty to them. Hell Chu could still have Kanmei-ish level commanders that they simply can’t convince to actually fight for them.
 
Yeah Rinbukun should be up there for a Chu general
Considering he was the leader of a 50k army alongside Karin and was so arrogant and prideful of his abilities i don't think he was supposed to be an average general
Excluding Gg's and their Vassals + the outliers like Man' U i think he should be around a Top 5 general
Something like a SSJ if he wasn't RBK'S underling
 
@Elder Lee Hung @MarineHQ how many Chu generals do you expect to be at least Great General level in some area?(i.e Mougou/Choutou at the absolute bare minimum?)
I think a lot. Like, Kouen's own commanders will probably be like another Fire Dragons version when the Juuko gang already is that strong.
Problem with Man’U is shitty writing if I’m being real
Moubu is the strongest in China, and Man’U is a scrub weaker than the giant of Chu Kanmei. Problem is, Hara ran out of options pretty quick with Moubu’s character, and had to half ass an enigmatic Man’U to create some mental challenge for Moubu.
Manu's existence is just weird. We all know the major spoiler/betrayal of the Chu arc so why create a character that has to predict to Moubu that it might happen to him too.
You can think Rokuomi is not that great of a general overall (tactics etc) but underestimating him as a warrior is an other thing

Rokuomi would bully Shin lite, would bully Sou’Ou too

He is likely in league with Batei / Shi Ryou etc. His stat put him even higher
‘And you can see that Rokuomi has been growing since the beginning of the manga, has a leader, a fighter etc.

Rokuomi tenacity and will is great
Rokuomi is definitely no pushover, man was fighting Rinbunkun almost evenly for some time while dodging 10 bows arrows
He has become a meme and maybe doesn't compare with some of the vassals of other top tier Gg's because he was introduced too early but he is a decent general probably on par with the Sou'Ou or the Denrimi's of the world
Look at Gokei's vassals and compare them to Seika generals
Getting introduced early sucks
To me Rokuoumi is a strong enough general that you can entrust a wing during the battle and not worry about it. He may not win all the time but at least he won't get crushed.
Rinbukun himself was far above the average general. If the average general is like Eibei level, well that guy was one shot by Rinko. Rinbukun had an extended fight with Tou. Lol

If I had to rank Rinbukun among the Juukou gang, I would do it like this:

Man’U > Sento’Un > Rinbukun > Gen’U ~ Juukou’Ou

Imo it is not that Rinbukun was one of the stronger Chu generals that made them select him for Coalition, it is the fact that he was loyal to Chu. Man’U for example had no loyalties to Chu at all. They couldn’t make him lead the Coalition army because he wouldn’t have done so.

So by that logic, Chu probably has plenty of stronger generals than Rinbukun who simply hold no loyalty to them. Hell Chu could still have Kanmei-ish level commanders that they simply can’t convince to actually fight for them.
Oh can't wait for the absolute madness when every Chu city big or small releases a Moubu to battle lol
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
You can think Rokuomi is not that great of a general overall (tactics etc) but underestimating him as a warrior is an other thing

Rokuomi would bully Shin lite, would bully Sou’Ou too

He is likely in league with Batei / Shi Ryou etc. His stat put him even higher
‘And you can see that Rokuomi has been growing since the beginning of the manga, has a leader, a fighter etc.

Rokuomi tenacity and will is great
I’m not at all convinced Rokuomi is Batei level lol

Batei broke Shin’s Glaive in half and sent him flying in one strike. This was after Shin fought with Gaimou. No way Rokuomi would beat Batei imo. At best Rokuomi can probably fight Batei for a time like he did with Rinbukun but I’d bet on Batei beating Rokuomi probably 10/10 times to be honest with you.

I don’t think Rokuomi is literally a Chu 1,000 man commander lol, that was pure adrenaline from Sento’Un talking, but he sure as fuck isn’t a Chu general. Maybe Rokuomi could be like a Chu 4,000 man commander. There’s just no way in hell he’s on the level of the Juukou gang. Grand scheme, he is decent at best.

Quite frankly Sou’Ou has looked like he’s fought in every battle we’ve seen with nonchalant ease. Recall that Kan’Ou had serious trouble with Fuuki and may have even lost to him were it not for the Hi Shin Unit.

Fuuki was pretty well above the average general, but he surely wasn’t Batei level imo. Batei would probably beat that ass high diff in war. And I stress again that Kan’Ou literally looked like he almost lost to Fuuki. And wasn’t Kan’Ou Ouki’s second strongest vassal?

Yeah, Ouki and Tou were the Ouki army at 80% strength bro. Renpa for example, I think all four Heavenly Kings together were like 60ish % of his army’s power lol. Ouki’s vassals were stallers against Houken’s slightly stronger than average army. Lol
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Rinbukun himself was far above the average general. If the average general is like Eibei level, well that guy was one shot by Rinko. Rinbukun had an extended fight with Tou. Lol

If I had to rank Rinbukun among the Juukou gang, I would do it like this:

Man’U > Sento’Un > Rinbukun > Gen’U ~ Juukou’Ou

Imo it is not that Rinbukun was one of the stronger Chu generals that made them select him for Coalition, it is the fact that he was loyal to Chu. Man’U for example had no loyalties to Chu at all. They couldn’t make him lead the Coalition army because he wouldn’t have done so.

So by that logic, Chu probably has plenty of stronger generals than Rinbukun who simply hold no loyalty to them. Hell Chu could still have Kanmei-ish level commanders that they simply can’t convince to actually fight for them.
Juukou > Rinbunkun all day any day
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Rinbukun had an extended fight with Tou. Lol
Tou was pushed to mid diff at best by Rinbunkun nothing huge

Tou overwhelmed him quite quick
 
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