Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1104 Spoilers Discussion

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Kuma let Saturn pierce his back to shield Bonney with his body. His body is the literal body of a Pacifista.

You're bringing up other characters to say Saturn may not be weak physically by comparing him to different characters that aren't him and that have shown things to back up their capabilities, yet where's the proof about Saturn? Nowhere to be seen.

Yes, Saturn is in Zoan and Sanji is in base, yes.

Saturn is Bloodlusted? He's angry, and attacking a dead person that has stopped moving, not moving into an all out attack.

Did Sanji block the attack? No, he deflected it.

Is it a bad moment? No, Sanji finally got to protect Bonney from someone, side by side with Franky. Is it a "top tier level moment"? Clearly not.

You have been calling names, as usual, since the start, because I don't want to glaze Sanji over nothing, so let's just wait to see what Saturn can or can't do next chapter.
Bro all this started because you said that Saturn is physically weak because he got hurt by kuma

I said that's not how it works

Thats where we disagreed. You're stupid and can't differentiate between durability and physical strength.

You can have high physical strength and low durability.

Zoro is an example. Low durability but he has high endurance and ap.

Just because they don't have ancient zoan dino durability does not mean they are physically weak.

Show me any evidence that Saturn is physically weak. Provide evidence for your claim.

You made the claim the burden of proof is on you. But you keep saying that I'm wrong and ignoring my evidence.

That's why I'm rude. Provide something
 
A Marine literally called Kuma punching the fuck outta Saturn a HISTORICAL Event....LMAO...Why? Because AINT NOBODY DID THAT IN 800 years... THIS ALONE IS SHOCKING THE WORLD.. broo.

If Vegapunk, a guy who is beloved in every household in the world of OP dies.... a SHOCKING EVENT....

If the news gets out that a Gorosei member came down and fought then got damaged (not beat) and a Yonko escaped from a Gorosei + Kizaru.... A SHOCKING EVENT


Idk if you're outta touch with OP... but bruh everything Saturn is doing right now and is happening to him is going to shock the world. Everything that is happening to Vegapunk is going to shock the world.
Nah man. Nothing that's happened so far as had the impact.

You guys are in denial about the strawhats winning because narratively it makes the marines look bad.
 
Really him missing is the only evidence you have (because him sniping the key in Marineford shows his aim is unfathomably great), but that's about it.
Thing is he miss during the third try but he dead on during the second try .
The man was on target but luffy took the hit but it seem that was all was part of kizaru plan
He knew luffy would get there to eat the attack if you go by what some saying lol .
 
Nah man. Nothing that's happened so far as had the impact.

You guys are in denial about the strawhats winning because narratively it makes the marines look bad.
The Narrator didn't say: "Would shock the reader"...
The Narrator said: "Will shock the world"/ "Kind of Shock the world never saw coming"



We're literally told by a Marine fodder, that this is a MAJOR historical incident to the world of OP. And do you know what MAJOR historical incidents do? They shock the world.

And I'm not even saying the punch is going to be it. However, EVERYTHING that is happening from now on, is something that will shock the world.


Y'all keep thinking about this from a reader PoV, it's from the world of OP's PoV. The fact that a Gorosei came down after VP with an admiral with him and fought against a Yonko, who then escaped while trying to save Vegapunk (who will most likely die)... That is literally something that's going to shock the world... like wtf are we talking about bro.
 
Zoro is an example. Low durability but he has high endurance and ap.
This bum talking about credibility.

No, this started because you claimed "Saturn's insane feats" made Sanji's deflecting his stab something astonishing. You're the one claiming Saturn's stab just now was anything impressive to glaze Sanji for deflecting it, basing it on his "insane feats". The burden of proof is on you anyway.

You claim that those "feats" were not physical feats, but that "he's a top tier so of course he has top tier physical strength" but at the same time you mention how "Not all top tiers are equally durable, so his durability being lower doesnt mean anything": yes, it doesn't mean anything, it also doesn't mean his physical strength equals other top tiers, by your own logic.

I addressed your "evidence" already: it's not evidence. It's an argument, but no evidence at all. In fact, I have addressed your "evidence" thrice by now and brought up points that you have ignored.

You're rude because you were raised that way, don't make excuses for your parents. You were calling names on the very first comment way before I dismissed your "evidence". So I'll say again: I'll wait for Saturn to show something that substantiates your claim.
 
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