Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1104 Spoilers Discussion
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Yes. Good that you agree that its confirmed Loro was getting carried by Oden in Wano, with Oden giving Loro like a x1000 buff. So its obviously just natural that he gets bodied by even 1 HP Lucci without Oden.
Yes, you're claim that Zoro was getting buffed and given haki by Oden is definitely true. I agree that Zoro is weaker then franky without Oden, as you said. Zoro without Oden stands no chance against Lucci even if he was 0.01HP no doubt. I agree with that. So yes its true that without Odens help Loro is fodder for King as well. You're right. While Loro gets the powers of Oden + enma + Wano buff. Luffy effortlessly 1 taps a admiral, recovers quicker then him to save his side hoe Loro from getting bodied by 1 HP Lucci, whilst also getting nerfed by G5. So no doubt, Midhawk is a fodder just like Loro, which is why despite his training, Loro was not able to do shit to Lucci, now that he left Wano. I agree that without Odens power, Loro would've gotten bodied by Apoo in Wano. No doubt its true that he didn't stopped hakai but Oden stopped hakai and no doubt he didn't scar Kaido or defeat King, but instead Oden did both. So no doubt even pre TS Luffy 1 shots non oden Buff Loro. You're right.
Yes, you're claim that Zoro was getting buffed and given haki by Oden is definitely true. I agree that Zoro is weaker then franky without Oden, as you said. Zoro without Oden stands no chance against Lucci even if he was 0.01HP no doubt. I agree with that. So yes its true that without Odens help Loro is fodder for King as well. You're right. While Loro gets the powers of Oden + enma + Wano buff. Luffy effortlessly 1 taps a admiral, recovers quicker then him to save his side hoe Loro from getting bodied by 1 HP Lucci, whilst also getting nerfed by G5. So no doubt, Midhawk is a fodder just like Loro, which is why despite his training, Loro was not able to do shit to Lucci, now that he left Wano. I agree that without Odens power, Loro would've gotten bodied by Apoo in Wano. No doubt its true that he didn't stopped hakai but Oden stopped hakai and no doubt he didn't scar Kaido or defeat King, but instead Oden did both. So no doubt even pre TS Luffy 1 shots non oden Buff Loro. You're right.
So let me ask you a question.
If I push back a punch for 2 seconds but it still lands does that mean I successfully blocked it?
Like in a normal boxing match. Would that count as a successful block?
In reality we all know it isn't a successful block
If two knights are battling and one knight attempts to block a slash but can't successfully hold it back. Does that still count as a block?
The answer to both of these is no.
They were attempts. They were partially successful. But it wasn't a successful block. It was an attempt. And that's what zoro did. He attempted to block and was thanked for it.
You can ignore reality all you want. We both know that if he truly blocked it then he would have negated the entirety of hakai.
You can "block" 80% of hakai and still be unsuccessful in the end. It's not a proper or sucessful block.
Only zoro fans would argue with the simple reality of the situation. Zoro attempted to block and failed miserably.
He was negged as a result and had every bone in his body broken. He didn't even block 10% of it. Let alone 80% and that still wouldn't qualify as a successful block
If I push back a punch for 2 seconds but it still lands does that mean I successfully blocked it?
Like in a normal boxing match. Would that count as a successful block?
In reality we all know it isn't a successful block
If two knights are battling and one knight attempts to block a slash but can't successfully hold it back. Does that still count as a block?
The answer to both of these is no.
They were attempts. They were partially successful. But it wasn't a successful block. It was an attempt. And that's what zoro did. He attempted to block and was thanked for it.
You can ignore reality all you want. We both know that if he truly blocked it then he would have negated the entirety of hakai.
You can "block" 80% of hakai and still be unsuccessful in the end. It's not a proper or sucessful block.
Only zoro fans would argue with the simple reality of the situation. Zoro attempted to block and failed miserably.
He was negged as a result and had every bone in his body broken. He didn't even block 10% of it. Let alone 80% and that still wouldn't qualify as a successful block
I agree Pre TS G2>G3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Black black blades EOS KOH Ashura>KOH Ashura.
But you have to admit that going 100% all out black blade EOS Ashura KOH Loro>/=child Luffy pre DF at least. Id'd say Loro takes it through extreme diff, and not as you say that kid Luffy neg diffs EOS black blade EOS KOH Loro. Don't be such a fanatic.
But you have to admit that going 100% all out black blade EOS Ashura KOH Loro>/=child Luffy pre DF at least. Id'd say Loro takes it through extreme diff, and not as you say that kid Luffy neg diffs EOS black blade EOS KOH Loro. Don't be such a fanatic.
Partially blocked* and that's being nice considering it was a tiny percent of it.
You're talking about shitty Japanese to English translations that get corrected all the time. Zoro didn't block it. He attempted to and your ability to ignore reality. Your ability to remain willfully ignorant is truly astounding.
Imagine ignoring the simple facts of the matter because you're delusional and it'll fuck up your headcanon
You're talking about shitty Japanese to English translations that get corrected all the time. Zoro didn't block it. He attempted to and your ability to ignore reality. Your ability to remain willfully ignorant is truly astounding.
Imagine ignoring the simple facts of the matter because you're delusional and it'll fuck up your headcanon
A black bandana suits you, sir. Okay, let's get down to business. You can say that Enma sucked 80% of haki Zoro and weakened it greatly, but the truth is that Enma sucked no more than 60%. And do not exaggerate by saying that Shusui is >>> Enma. Shusui is really better, but not that much. Enma did no more damage than King, you're exaggerating here. Yes, Zoro fought with Enma+King, but Enma did no more damage than King.
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