Speculations Kizaru won the fight against Luffy

[U c 4 up da idly]

Kizaru is back up and fighting while Luffy had to run away and get help and food given. Kizaru Also could have gotten up whenever he wanted to and finish off Luffy but being the great employee that he is, Kizaru let Saturn get the spotlight and lay down for abit .



Only after Saturn fumbled the bag does kizaru realize he can't pretend anymore and get back to action

 

[York]

That is not even remotely close to a proper win. Cope harder

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

That is not even remotely close to a proper win. Cope harder

It is, under both boxing and MMA rules this is a win for Kizaru.

Stamina is a battle trait just like strength, speed, durability, AP/DC, etc

 

[York]

It is, under both boxing and MMA rules

Damn its too bad that has fuck all to do with One Piece then.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Kizaru is back up and fighting while Luffy had to run away and get help and food given. Kizaru Also could have gotten up whenever he wanted to and finish off Luffy but being the great employee that he is, Kizaru let Saturn get the spotlight and lay down for abit .



Only after Saturn fumbled the bag does kizaru realize he can't pretend anymore and get back to action

It is, under both boxing and MMA rules this is a win for Kizaru.

Stamina is a battle trait just like strength, speed, durability, AP/DC, etc

100% factual. Irrefutable.

 

[GUI VI]

Luffy in his strongest form couldn't even beat self-nerfed Kizaru, and people still want to see Kizaru's Awakening vs Luffy.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Damn its too bad that has fuck all to do with One Piece then.

Except it does, because in a fight with no plot context Kizaru would be able to kill Luffy.

That's what determines the rules of combat

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

It is, under both boxing and MMA rules this is a win for Kizaru.

Stamina is a battle trait just like strength, speed, durability, AP/DC, etc

What boxing and MMA do you watch? Because in those sports, the one who falls first, and stays down for the 10 count first, is the loser.

 

[York]

Except it does, because in a fight with no plot context

Damn, it's too bad that has fuck all to do with One Piece then

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

What boxing and MMA do you watch? Because in those sports, the one who falls first, and stays down for the 10 count first, is the loser.

Nope, because Luffy hit the ground first, the countdown would be applied to him.

And this actually has happened before with fighters gassing out.

Damn, it's too bad that has fuck all to do with One Piece then

This is what powerscaling is, determining who is stronger based on feats and portrayal outside of plot armor and story context.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

And just think, Kizaru was distracted and didn’t even hit Luffy with a proper attack.

Just imagine if Kizaru were actually trying to defeat Luffy. Luffy wouldn’t even last 2 minutes.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Another day, another ZKK lite thread.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Nope, because Luffy hit the ground first, the countdown would be applied to him.

And this actually has happened before with fighters gassing out.


This is what powerscaling is, determining who is stronger based on feats and portrayal outside of plot armor and story context.

Luffy only hit the ground first because Kizaru got blasted through a bunch of buildings. Were those not in the way he would have been first on the ground.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Another day, another ZKK lite thread.

It's not even a theory, it's just straight facts.

Kizaru and Luffy both go down. Kizaru because he got rocked Luffy because he gassed out.

Kizaru gets up first.

Kizaru won the fight.

What's cope is denying the obvious.

 

[York]

because Luffy hit the ground first

Making shit up to suit your agenda. Sad

This is what powerscaling is, determining who is stronger based on feats and portrayal outside of plot armor and story context.

The thread is called "Kizaru won the fight against Luffy", not "Kizaru has better feats and portrayal than Luffy". Any arguments related to the subject of the thread are not allowed to ignore the story context, because the fight and its outcome is story relevant. L

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Not only he hit the ground first, luffy needs someone to help him to get up (someone bringing him food) unlike Kizaru who got up looking fresh without assistance.
By all metrics Luffy lost this round, it is what is.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Making shit up to suit your agenda. Sad

Except I didn't.

The thread is called "Kizaru won the fight against Luffy", not "Kizaru has better feats and portrayal than Luffy". Any arguments related to the subject of the thread are not allowed to ignore the story context, because the fight and its outcome is story relevant. L

This is just sad man.

 

[Herrera95]

Lucci also won. If Luffy didn't escaped he would be old and useless while Lucci got up fresh and would've killed him easily.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Lucci also won. If Luffy didn't escaped he would be old and useless while Lucci got up fresh and would've killed him easily.

Luffy didn't hit his time limit against Lucci.

 

[York]

Except I didn't.

Erm, by the rules of the Tenkaichi Budokai, getting smacked into the side of a building counts as hitting the ground.