Speculations Kizaru won the fight against Luffy

[EmperorKinyagi]

Erm, by the rules of the Tenkaichi Budokai, getting smacked into the side of a building counts as hitting the ground.

Fighting game rules?

 

[York]

Lucci also won. If Luffy didn't escaped he would be old and useless while Lucci got up fresh and would've killed him easily.

See, the reason powerscalers are so desperate to ignore pertinent story context is because they see their fave get rocked unconscious and are desperate to cope that into a W

 

[Herrera95]

Luffy didn't hit his time limit against Lucci.

He essentially did.

Why the fuck the thread is tagged as rules?

 

[York]

Fighting game rules?

Sorry, I was unaware I was debating with a toddler that hasn't even read Dragon Ball

 

[Durableguy]

It's always admiral fandom that nitpick every little thing and then wonder why the manga slaps them in the face 5 chapters later.

 

[Herrera95]

See, the reason powerscalers are so desperate to ignore pertinent story context is because they see their fave get rocked unconscious and are desperate to cope that into a W

Last time I checked definitions unconscious means unable to talk or move. Kizaru was doing both. But Luffy...

 

[YonkoGodLuffy]

Luffy won by 1 shotting Lizaru and recovering faster overdose on copium harder
Zoro lost to Lucci

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

See, the reason powerscalers are so desperate to ignore pertinent story context is because they see their fave get rocked unconscious and are desperate to cope that into a W

Except that the context vs Lucci is completely different.

Luffy rocked Lucci before running out of time and could have done more.

Kizaru forced Luffy into Gear 5, and he reached the form's limit,

 

[YonkoGodLuffy]

Last time I checked definitions unconscious means unable to talk or move. Kizaru was doing both. But Luffy...

Lizaru got turned into a quadruple paraplegic with 1 shot from Luffy. Luffy then recovered first and got up whilst Lizaru was napping. Stay coping

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

It's always admiral fandom that nitpick every little thing and then wonder why the manga slaps them in the face 5 chapters later.

It's always Durablepuppy who generalizes "the admiral fandom" while speaking to an imaginary audience in his head and is unable to actually win a single argument.

 

[Garp the Fist]

-Luffy looks terrible with this random ass stamina problem that makes no sense compared to what we saw on Wano

-Kizaru still looks terrible because he got his shit rocked in from one punch.

If we take that fight on it’s own, they both get destroyed by Kaido.

 

[Herrera95]

Lizaru got turned into a quadruple paraplegic with 1 shot from Luffy. Luffy then recovered first and got up whilst Lizaru was napping. Stay coping

Cope some less. Kizaru got up and moved way before Luffy ran away crying for Zoro to help him.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Luffy didn't hit his time limit against Lucci.

I really wish people would actually read the series before arguing powerscaling. Would save a lot of time

 

[York]

Last time I checked definitions unconscious means unable to talk or move. Kizaru was doing both. But Luffy...

1. Your postthat I was replying to was about Lucci. Try to pay attention to your own arguments better.

2. Luffy was clearly able to talk and move, as he was able to ask for food, and then shovel said food into his mouth. For that matter, we saw that the marines had lost track of Luffy before we saw Kizaru up and fighting again. Therefore, Luffy has "won" the fight.

 

[Durableguy]

Does anyone really think Luffy isn't getting back up and defeating the marines this arc lol?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Does anyone really think Luffy isn't getting back up and defeating the marines this arc lol?

Where did bro read that?

 

[Herrera95]

1. Your postthat I was replying to was about Lucci. Try to pay attention to your own arguments better.

2. Luffy was clearly able to talk and move, as he was able to ask for food, and then shovel said food into his mouth. For that matter, we saw that the marines had lost track of Luffy before we saw Kizaru up and fighting again. Therefore, Luffy has "won" the fight.

Luffy ran away from Lucci. He would eventually get up when Luffy was old and would be defeated.

 

[Durableguy]

Where did bro read that?

I mean do you expect the protagonists to lose? The strawhats always win in long arcs.

Not once have they lost.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Except that the context vs Lucci is completely different.

Luffy rocked Lucci before running out of time and could have done more.

Kizaru forced Luffy into Gear 5, and he reached the form's limit,

It’s not even complicated.
Luffy fucked Lucci shit up («I’m losing consciousness!!!») but had to go because the vacuum rocket was going to depart. Then the usual G5 drawback hit once he was aboard the rocket, way after the fight finished. Can’t be compared to Luffy explicitly reaching his limit against Kizaru and being so spent he’s unable to move without food. Like just read the chapters lmao

Now if people really want to argue Lucci pushed Luffy to his limit to somehow try to deny Luffy’s L against Kizaru, go on. I don’t mind Lucci wank.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

I mean do you expect the protagonists to lose? The strawhats always win in long arcs.

Not once have they lost.

No I dont expect the protagonists to lose.

Do you think they lost in Whole Cake Island?