General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
I don't see why. The conclusion of my theory was wrong. If she does indeed join, it will just meant that I was right to believe in her potential, that's all. Nothing more really.
And yet, if you create a classment between me and the entire threads I'm participating on this forum on the notion "who said "I'm wrong, you are right" the most, I'll come on top without question.
Funny how biases can play with our brains
Usopp is not a look out, he is a marksman.
Damn, you must really passing through a hard time right now mate.... I feel ya
Ship guard in the strawhat context is a dumb position to begin with. How can you expect that a strawhat just stands there guarding the ship while other strawhats are going on an adventure ? It defeats the purpose of joining them for adventure in the first place..
And yet, if you create a classment between me and the entire threads I'm participating on this forum on the notion "who said "I'm wrong, you are right" the most, I'll come on top without question.
Funny how biases can play with our brains
Usopp is not a look out, he is a marksman.
Damn, you must really passing through a hard time right now mate.... I feel ya
Ship guard in the strawhat context is a dumb position to begin with. How can you expect that a strawhat just stands there guarding the ship while other strawhats are going on an adventure ? It defeats the purpose of joining them for adventure in the first place..
Whether you believe Ship Guard is a dumb position or not, the fact is Oda gave the position to 2 pirates in an intro box early in the series.
Now, I do agree that a crewmate being "stuck" on guard duty 24/7 while others adventured would seem like a slight to the character. That is why I believe a "Ship Guard" encompasses other crew positions like Lookout, which has NOT been in an intro box. A Lookout technically is guarding the ship from dangers in/on the sea.
I also believe whoever gets Kuma's DF powers will be that Ship Guard. The Paw Fruit solves the problem you stated with the Ship Guard guarding the ship while the others go adventure. This character would be fast enough to guard the ship AND go adventure.
I don't see why. The conclusion of my theory was wrong. If she does indeed join, it will just meant that I was right to believe in her potential, that's all. Nothing more really.
And yet, if you create a classment between me and the entire threads I'm participating on this forum on the notion "who said "I'm wrong, you are right" the most, I'll come on top without question.
Funny how biases can play with our brains
Usopp is not a look out, he is a marksman.
Damn, you must really passing through a hard time right now mate.... I feel ya
Ship guard in the strawhat context is a dumb position to begin with. How can you expect that a strawhat just stands there guarding the ship while other strawhats are going on an adventure ? It defeats the purpose of joining them for adventure in the first place..
And yet, if you create a classment between me and the entire threads I'm participating on this forum on the notion "who said "I'm wrong, you are right" the most, I'll come on top without question.
Funny how biases can play with our brains
Usopp is not a look out, he is a marksman.
Damn, you must really passing through a hard time right now mate.... I feel ya
Ship guard in the strawhat context is a dumb position to begin with. How can you expect that a strawhat just stands there guarding the ship while other strawhats are going on an adventure ? It defeats the purpose of joining them for adventure in the first place..
You can literally have an arc where the SH go adventure and eventually at mid point of the arc or 70% into the arc, they split up and Yamato goes to guard the ship and it's an easy setup for a 1vs1 for Yamato for whatever enemies go to the ship.
And this has literally happened, Dressrosa had half of the SH aboard the Sunny defeding it/running away.
Oda constantly splits up the SH it's not a big deal
In the strawhat context, it is.
Strawhats are literally a bunch of people going toward the adventure. Making one of them stay behind while the other have fun defeat the purpose of the manga's thematic in the first place.
Not just a "slight", it would negate core thematics of the story.
On each adventure ? Again, in would negate core thematics of the story and the character of Yamato in the first place (who loves adventuring)
Yes, to make them go on separate path toward adventure, not stuck on the Sunny lol
Strawhats are literally a bunch of people going toward the adventure. Making one of them stay behind while the other have fun defeat the purpose of the manga's thematic in the first place.
Not just a "slight", it would negate core thematics of the story.
On each adventure ? Again, in would negate core thematics of the story and the character of Yamato in the first place (who loves adventuring)
Yes, to make them go on separate path toward adventure, not stuck on the Sunny lol
You didn't respond to the possibility the person who inherits the Paw Fruit would be able to guard the Sunny and adventure.
Kuma protected the Sunny when he teleported Perona away when she was going to steal Sunny.
Kuma protected the Sunny during the timeskip.
What positions are left that have been in an introbox that would fit in the Strawhats crew? As of now, Ship Guard is similar to Helmsman being introduced early in the series only to be relevant far later in the series.
Kuma protected the Sunny when he teleported Perona away when she was going to steal Sunny.
Kuma protected the Sunny during the timeskip.
What positions are left that have been in an introbox that would fit in the Strawhats crew? As of now, Ship Guard is similar to Helmsman being introduced early in the series only to be relevant far later in the series.
She also has themes of guarding things, it's not hard to do both my guy, expand your mind a bit.
Nami, Sanji, Brook and Chopper were going on an adventure when they were in Dressrosa and protecting the Ship from Viola and Donflamingo?
Nami was going on an adventure in Thriller bark when she went back to the ship to avoid the cargo getting stolen and met Kuma?
Is Zoro going on adventures when he routinely sleeps on board and stays behind guardin it? Like in Water 7?
What about when they took straws to see who goes to Punk Hazard and 5 SH stayed on the ship?
Or literally when Chopper stayed behind to protect the ship in Skypiea?
They most certainly don't go towards adventure and they do routinely get stuck on the Sunny.
Again it's not hard, she goes to the ship to secure it, she finds someone and 1vs1 for the ship safety- setup payoff, - you're a writter right? You know these things.
Nami, Sanji, Brook and Chopper were going on an adventure when they were in Dressrosa and protecting the Ship from Viola and Donflamingo?
Nami was going on an adventure in Thriller bark when she went back to the ship to avoid the cargo getting stolen and met Kuma?
Is Zoro going on adventures when he routinely sleeps on board and stays behind guardin it? Like in Water 7?
What about when they took straws to see who goes to Punk Hazard and 5 SH stayed on the ship?
Or literally when Chopper stayed behind to protect the ship in Skypiea?
They most certainly don't go towards adventure and they do routinely get stuck on the Sunny.
Again it's not hard, she goes to the ship to secure it, she finds someone and 1vs1 for the ship safety- setup payoff, - you're a writter right? You know these things.
That doesn't change anything... The person would still stay behind, even if she can join them rapidely.There is absolutely no reason to create such a character when all the strawhats are meant to go on the adventure.
Yeah cool, Kuma is not a strawhat.
Look Out.
No lol
There is no such thematic or the story would have clearly took the time to stop on the specific attribute and show that Yamato is specifically obsessed in the act of guarding stuff. Which didn't happen.
You need to understand that when a role is assignated to a strawhat. Its not simply Oda saying "you will be this".. In reality, Oda is milking the thematic of the role in almost every aspect and journey of the character. Its a part of who they are and what they do. Its something HEAVILY marked in the storytelling.
Hence why Carrot as a look out make sence because all her journey is about discovery and the notion of wonder in front of the world and why Yamato as a guard doesn't.
I do have an open mind, but an open mind doesn't mean accepting anything and everything just because we want to.
Actually yes. They went there own way toward Zou. ALL path of the strawhats leads them toward adventure, even if its on the ship.
But what you are asking for, is for a character to have adventure ONLY on the ship and separated from every other strawhats. Which is a nonsense to begin with since they are meant to stay together or in small groups.
Indeed, but again, you are proving me that they are staying because the adventure is coming to them. And what you fail to mention is that its not always the same person. Simply because having the same person staying behind would separate them BY NATURE from the rest for the rest of the story.
Its - again - a nonsense.
Yeah, I am. And allow me to explain you that repeating that pattern again and again while separating the character from the rest of the crew. In short, having the character have ALWAYS his own adventure separated from those of the strawhats is a NONSENSE in term of storytelling if you want to write a story where a found family goes on adventure together.
Sidelining a character like that, alone in their own story while others are adventuring together, must always have a purpose. There must be a reason why they are okto stay alone. (and again, this would negate the core thematic of the story)
Yeah cool, Kuma is not a strawhat.
Look Out.
No lol
There is no such thematic or the story would have clearly took the time to stop on the specific attribute and show that Yamato is specifically obsessed in the act of guarding stuff. Which didn't happen.
You need to understand that when a role is assignated to a strawhat. Its not simply Oda saying "you will be this".. In reality, Oda is milking the thematic of the role in almost every aspect and journey of the character. Its a part of who they are and what they do. Its something HEAVILY marked in the storytelling.
Hence why Carrot as a look out make sence because all her journey is about discovery and the notion of wonder in front of the world and why Yamato as a guard doesn't.
I do have an open mind, but an open mind doesn't mean accepting anything and everything just because we want to.
Actually yes. They went there own way toward Zou. ALL path of the strawhats leads them toward adventure, even if its on the ship.
But what you are asking for, is for a character to have adventure ONLY on the ship and separated from every other strawhats. Which is a nonsense to begin with since they are meant to stay together or in small groups.
Indeed, but again, you are proving me that they are staying because the adventure is coming to them. And what you fail to mention is that its not always the same person. Simply because having the same person staying behind would separate them BY NATURE from the rest for the rest of the story.
Its - again - a nonsense.
Yeah, I am. And allow me to explain you that repeating that pattern again and again while separating the character from the rest of the crew. In short, having the character have ALWAYS his own adventure separated from those of the strawhats is a NONSENSE in term of storytelling if you want to write a story where a found family goes on adventure together.
Sidelining a character like that, alone in their own story while others are adventuring together, must always have a purpose. There must be a reason why they are okto stay alone. (and again, this would negate the core thematic of the story)
