[FNZ] Role Madness Naruto: Chunin Exam

[Ultra]

Vote lynch Luka

Cop being 2 shots, we probably don't have godfather so RippedCal is clear.

I don't like the mass claim ping from Ultra, mafia has fakes anyway, and decent ones, knowing how Fuji makes the roles

Michelle please stop muddying the waters here. Frankly the only players who haven't claimed besides you and cal are my primary suspects so it's kinda procedural. And there's still information that can be gleaned here even if mafia have credible fakes, forcing them to lie can also reveal info

 

[Michelle]

Bear I was defending you yday, but you asking the clear slot to claim makes me think if my read is correct.

 

[Luka]

???

Alright, you've got nobody but yourself to blame here if I'm misreading you, you continue to insist you're not scum reading me but place a vote when you see it's safe to cross the road

Oh no, now I am scum reading you. You've pushed a town d1, a town d2, and now you're pushing a town today. In addition to that, I never stated I wasn't scum reading you. I just said that earlier I wasn't calling you mafia, which you then ignore the question.

I blame you if you misread me, simple. Not anybodys fault but the person misreading me.

 

[Michelle]

Ok, I am coming back at a better hour for me.

@Ultra, why did you change focus at Eod on Luka and made the day end in no lynch?

 

[Ultra]

Bear I was defending you yday, but you asking the clear slot to claim makes me think if my read is correct.

Michelle it's Day 4, if I'm mafia there's probably little strategic advantage to this as everyone's probably exhausted most of what they got, if you wanna lynch me off level one shit just do it, this game is wack

 

[Ultra]

Oh no, now I am scum reading you. You've pushed a town d1, a town d2, and now you're pushing a town today. In addition to that, I never stated I wasn't scum reading you. I just said that earlier I wasn't calling you mafia, which you then ignore the question.

I blame you if you misread me, simple. Not anybodys fault but the person misreading me.

You literally just stated you weren't scum reading me. I quoted it. This has very consistently been your position up until literally just now.

I was off doing something else, and to be honest your question really isn't all that worth engaging

 

[Michelle]

Ultra what's your reads though?

 

[Ultra]

Ok, I am coming back at a better hour for me.

@Ultra, why did you change focus at Eod on Luka and made the day end in no lynch?

lol

I ain't getting the blame for that

 

[Ultra]

Ultra what's your reads though?

Posted them yesterday

there's nothing really that's changed

mass claim would be good to get more information!

 

[Luka]

You literally just stated you weren't scum reading me. I quoted it. This has very consistently been your position up until literally just now.

I was off doing something else, and to be honest your question really isn't all that worth engaging

No, I am saying it does not imply that I am scum reading you. You then dodged my question and you still haven't answered it, and yes it is worth engaging. If you are town, despite your inactivity you have played strictly not alligned with the town. Yesterday my main defense towards you was being an active slot from what I can recall in a dead game, but since you are only pushing towns with that activity, it does not matter.

Also, to be quite frank, this game as 126 pages. You're pushing me when you should be good at reading me for one minior inconsistency among my actions, which I don't even think is an inconsistency.

 

[Ultra]

Oh except I'm feeling less warm about that polar read, would say he has a fair chance of being a scum fake but not necessarily more than any of my other bottom listers

 

[Luka]

Oh except I'm feeling less warm about that polar read, would say he has a fair chance of being a scum fake but not necessarily more than any of my other bottom listers

You are actively pushing a town, for what it's worth.

 

[Ultra]

No, I am saying it does not imply that I am scum reading you. You then dodged my question and you still haven't answered it, and yes it is worth engaging. If you are town, despite your inactivity you have played strictly not alligned with the town. Yesterday my main defense towards you was being an active slot from what I can recall in a dead game, but since you are only pushing towns with that activity, it does not matter.

Also, to be quite frank, this game as 126 pages. You're pushing me when you should be good at reading me for one minior inconsistency among my actions, which I don't even think is an inconsistency.

You know Luka, if you're town here, nothing about how you're presenting is going to make me understand that for the simple reason that this is obviously a crock of shit.

I gave you my reasons for my suspicion yesterday, and nobody is bothering to engage with them including you, so don't cry about me not answering your question until you address how you're reading both the claimed watcher and tracker town. Thanks

 

[Michelle]

Posted them yesterday

there's nothing really that's changed

mass claim would be good to get more information!

Say it again pls, searching on phone is hard at 6 am

 

[Luka]

You know Luka, if you're town here, nothing about how you're presenting is going to make me understand that for the simple reason that this is obviously a crock of shit.

I gave you my reasons for my suspicion yesterday, and nobody is bothering to engage with them including you, so don't cry about me not answering your question until you address how you're reading both the claimed watcher and tracker town. Thanks

So, first of all, I am not and you know this. I would assume you mean mafia, and I think that you yourself realize this is a horrible argument. I can have two people as scummy and not have them both as wolf, I don't think you should base reads on condition pre-flips of other players and I fail to see why I should make that my basis for my reads.

 

[Ultra]

Obviously I'm the lynch today since town's not really engaging this game on more than a surface level, but you'd be silly not to get claims at this point regardless

Can grandstand all you want about Cal being copped or whatever idgaf

Being able to have most of the pieces is often helpful and sometimes serves to clear someone, I dunno why some of you are acting like this is total nonsense

 

[Luka]

Obviously I'm the lynch today since town's not really engaging this game on more than a surface level, but you'd be silly not to get claims at this point regardless

Can grandstand all you want about Cal being copped or whatever idgaf

Being able to have most of the pieces is often helpful and sometimes serves to clear someone, I dunno why some of you are acting like this is total nonsense

I'm not acting like it's nonsense, I'm fine with a claim bucket I just fail to see why we should have slots that aren't going to die today claim when we risk outing a role like the vigilante that could very easily still be alive.

 

[Ultra]

So, first of all, I am not and you know this. I would assume you mean mafia, and I think that you yourself realize this is a horrible argument. I can have two people as scummy and not have them both as wolf, I don't think you should base reads on condition pre-flips of other players and I fail to see why I should make that my basis for my reads.

Yeah I meant scum

And it's not a horrible argument, because only now have you quietly moved the goalpost and admitted I had a point instead of conceding this earlier, except you're trying to use it as evidence I'm being misleading when really I was just deconstructing your stances and you never gave me credit

 

[Ultra]

And to take a step back Luka, in that Olympus game I had you pegged as town fairly quickly for taking aggressive stances on players who were low content slugs and defending your town reads.

Not only have you been soft on most of the low content posters here, you haven't dug your heels in at all and instead have seemed like you don't want to intervene, despite all the objections you are currently having to my play.

 

[Luka]

And it's not a horrible argument, because only now have you quietly moved the goalpost and admitted I had a point instead of conceding this earlier, except you're trying to use it as evidence I'm being misleading when really I was just deconstructing your stances and you never gave me credit

You're not desconstructing my reads though, you're saying that there's a difference check at best between the two which is okay, that doesn't wash away the fact that I don't think either player is playing very genuine. You do not have a point, I said in that post it's a poor argument.

Even if you're not being misleading you're attacking my reads / trying to deconstruct them by virtue of a allignment read stating that two players aren't wolf together, no? Which, I'm sure you can aknowledge, that doesn't inherintly make those players town.

In addition to that, I would like to believe I'm blatently town here based off of meta as well as just play. I never do the things I do as wolf, off of the top of my head I probably claim under presure and never vote you here, I can link games where I defend LHF town in service of pocketing them, even if they do scum read me. Infact, I don't think I can link a game where I don't do that as wolf.

So, from my point of view, you're 1. Pushing a obvious town 2. Have pushed 3 other townies at least in this game and 3. Are responding to my reads in bad faith in order to get me off of them.