Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1110 Spoilers Discussion

Should we open the chapter discussion thread for the iffy translation?


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Herrera95

or maybe Lucci was never that strong?
It's quite ridiculous to think that mere CP0 bumasses could be that strong. Imagine CP0 having someone as strong as Marco. That sound ridiculous.

-2 CP0 lost vs injured Izo
-Stussy went down from 1 shigan
-Kaku jobbed hard offscreen
Why should Lucci be any different? Also, Oda writing previous arc that Who's Who was as strong as Lucci could lead to believe that Lucci is just a bit stronger than WW.

And before you bring up, Gear 5 nonsense. Obviously Oda just used Lucci in order to make Vegapunk talk about Nika and then the whole fight was a reference to their previous fight.
We've seen much stronger characters job to much weaker characters.
Cap. Plot or not Lucci clashed equally with Nika. Oda could have done other things to talk about Nika without hyping Lucci strength.
 
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Law and Kid and Luffy genuinely were pretty close in power post timeskip imo. Law and Kid as dead equals and Luffy as just barely stronger (genuinely I think law would win 1v1 since Luffy sucks against smart fighters)
Law can win if he play smart enough.
Luffy has gear limit for both g4 and g5.
But again law hax is taxing as well. But he can do better than luffy in base.
Forum ain't ready to accept that
 
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Herrera95

such as? How does he force Luffy transform without fighting anyone? How does he force Vegapunk talk about Nika without Luffy being there in order to hear about it?
He could have done Lucci vs Sentomaru first and when Nika got there Seraphim were already under their command.
 
Queen was actually the best Wano villain, but you can't deny he has a goofy aspect to him.
What? Far from it.

Kyoshiro before the reveal as Denjiro was the best. He has hype as a master swordsman that could be Zoros end opponent.
Jack had mad hype but he got punked by Shutenmaru/Ashura Douji and never recovered.
Kaido & King were top from start to finish.
Ulti has a lot of potential in my view.
Who's Who when he still seemed like a loose cannon gunning for his own goals was interesting.
Mr Go was a MVP even though his role was small.
Apoo dealt damage do Kidd, Luffy, Zoro and stood his ground against CP0 and Drake. All the while selling pictures and being a presence.

Queen was just a gag character that Chopper slapped.
 
Lucci joining. Tell me you're conceding lmao
Is that about Zoro and Lucci's fight? Ok: Lucci did not fully go all out on Zoro, because he didn't try to kill or hurt Zoro, but held back - Zoro was a means for Oda to stall Lucci.

Because, Lucci is fully on the side of the SHPs. The only reason why Lucci attacked the Stellar was to get rid of Stussy, who is still working for the WG. And the only reason Oda chose Zoro to fight Lucci is because only specificly Zoro is able to stall him - not because of his fighting skills, but because if Lucci was to leave Zoro alone, the samurai would definitely get lost. And because Lucci is on the side of the SHPs/Vegapunk, he cannot let that happen. The SHPs would need to go search for Zoro and lose time they need so desperately to flee. So, Oda used Zoro to stall Lucci.

Lucci needed the SHPs to believe he is still the bad guy, because he wants to be left behind. This is the second reason he attacked Vegapunk. If the SHP were to think that Lucci was their ally, Luffy would not allow them to leave without him. And Lucci needs to stay back and sacrafice himself, because we have Kizaru, who is able to bridge the distance between Egghead and the Sunny in a moment even if the SHPs are able to leave the island. Someone needs to stall the admiral, because their plan is flawed.

If someone needs proof - I can give them that.
 
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