Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1111 Spoilers Discussion

[Tejas]

Kizaru actually did wonders for the agenda if you think about it. I don't think there's a single other character who could pull off what he did in the verse. His speed was crucial here.

Yes no other character got one shot twice in the same arc

 

[soheilhazrat]

Crocodile will be the first to show logia awakening

 

[Water1415]

The straw hats escape to the Elbaf ships, why so they can continue getting crumbs in the next arc

 

[Redboy776]

The bounty is gonna come after he's clashed with Nusjuro or one of the other gorosei. Zoro is him

Zoro not only beat lucci he gave him a meldown and now live rent free in his head like oden with kaido.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Hes not moving from the ship to join back the fight because he is depressed though.

So Dawn Cymbols didn’t do anything significant

 

[SkySanji]

Never forget that Kizaru would be dead right now if the 1/10000000 odds of him landing on a ship didn't happen, very strong plot armor he has.

 

[Ven437]

Kaido was suffering from depression too when he gauntlet through Scabbards and Supernovas by the way.

 

[Tejas]

Kizaru is maybe the only villain in One Piece who got oneshot twice in the same arc

 

[Fujishiro]

So Dawn Cymbols didn’t do anything significant

It did its job, which is stun and that allowed him to chuck Kizaru to the ocean. Good thing the boat was there.

 

[HA001]

Are you in the same thread as me? Explain why Zoro didn’t defeat Lucci when he was using KOH?

Never used it.

 

[Julius]

Strawhats leaving, Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe stayed

 

[dimitrios]

All Zoro fans can do now is deflect to Luffy

 

[AL sama]

?

no need to act all innocent

pretty sure you initially opened the threads with just that bit of info

 

[Apollo]

Never forget that Kizaru would be dead right now if the 1/10000000 odds of him landing on a ship didn't happen, very strong plot armor he has.

 

[Tejas]

The most goofy did against kizaru was making him bleed from his lips

And oneshotting him twice in the same arc

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I feel like Oda doesn’t know how strong he wants to make the admirals so he puts them in janky vague situations where he can upscale them down or up later depending on how he feels

I still believe it's all because Luffy vs Akainu (people can cope about Sabo/Dragon but Akainu impact on the MC as an antagonist cannot be denied, this fight is still extremely likely to me). Oda wants to involve admirals in the story but he also can't show their fulll power if they are meant to be relative to Sakazuki (in that they would push him to extreme diff) before this fight.
So this is why Oda tend to *protect* admirals with caveats when they don't perform as expected so he can still keep their PL nebulous
Ryo has less excuses for his reaction to Shanks haki but he was objectively in an unwinnable situation for anyone (completely outnumbered against 2 emperors including one with a fully fresh crew) and he clearly has an overdramatic personality, I think a Kizaru or a Fuji would have retreated but reacted more calmly, but for the rest :

-Ryo and Fuji were said to be heavily restrained several times in the reverie flashback (you can also add Fuji playing a double game)
-Kuzan was implied twice to be going soft against his former mentor
-Kizaru is mindbroken from having to kill his friends

 

[SkySanji]

Difference is that he was fine there, he wasn't when Luffy turned him into a pizza and tossed him towards the ocean, a ship saved his life, not himself.

 

[Water1415]

Strawhats leaving, Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe stayed

The strongest shine, the weakest are at best cast to the sidelines at worst treated like punching bags, yet people have a problem when we want the straw hats outside M3 to get fights and power ups

 

[Poorsalino Cooker]

Ztards crying over how much better Luffy looks than Zolo never gets old

These clowns really had the audacity to push shit like "Zoro >= Luffy" for years on end, and suddenly because they're being hit by irrefutable facts that Luffy wipes his ass with Zolo, the manga is just shit and stanning Luffy is for losers

Zolo truly is Fraudhawk's pupil after all.

 

[GUI VI]

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It's always the same game every week:
In one week: IT'S OVER FOR ZOLO
In another week : ZORO IS BACK
In one week: IT'S SO OVER FOR ZORO
In another week: ZORO IS SO BACK
In one week: IT'S FUCKING OVER FOR ZORO
In another week: ZORO IS FUCKING BACK
In one week: IT'S SO FUCKING OVER FOR ZORO
In another week: ZORO IS SO FUCKING BACK