Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1111 Spoilers Discussion

[Herrera95]

Because he was concerned for his friends and nothing to do with Kizaru. Kizaru AP could not even scratch Franky and Atlas
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Then AdmiraLs have 0 wins in the entire manga

Kizaru merit anyway.
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like, how the fuck???

Kizaru defeated Zoro?. check
Zoro is consious? check

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and when same thing happens with Kizaru its conflicting?

If Zoro is conscious then he isn't defeated. Kizaru claim is not to defeat Zoro but that he is unconscious

 

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Lucci trying to standing up:

 

[CensoredbyWG]

OP fans gotta realise Oda will never shit on Zoro.

Pre-TS he would absolutely shit on Zoro. But pre-TS and post-TS are like two different manga. Pre-TS, anything could happen in an arc. The SHs were individual characters who cared about their dreams.

Post-TS, Oda has shoehorned every SH into a category. He's taken whatever gag/troupe they had pre-TS and he's made it their entire character. Chopper used to have some great moments, now he's a mascot. Zoro actually used to smile and goof around pre-TS, now he's just one-liners and cool panels. Sanji went from protecting women to being a total pervert. Franky gets no special emphasis even when surrounded by his idol, Vegapunk. Luffy's gone full goofy. Robin only speaks when there's a poneglyph in the panel. The list goes on...

As a result, Zoro's character has reduced down to 'token badass'. Oda will never shit on Zoro, because Zoro must be the badass of the crew. In fact, Zoro is the only protagonist Oda won't shit on. It's sad, because he was much more interesting as a character pre-TS along with every other SH. But from a powerscaling perspective, you will never need to worry about Zoro because the only part of his character that Oda cares about is his strength, and for that, he is willing to let Zoro look even better than Luffy. Oda will happily shit on Luffy, but he'll also wank Luffy to high hell. Nearly as much as he wanked Oden.

E.g. Hakai. Oda had Zoro save Luffy multiple times and block a combined attack from two Yonko before he ever awakened CoC. He then had Zoro scar Kaido back when Zoro was still a high-tier. He showed that he's willing to make Zoro look even better than Luffy at times because he's unfortunately made being a badass Zoro's entire character. It's honestly like pre and post-TS One Piece have two different authors.

That's why Zoro's back story is like 5 pages and his family tree was revealed in an SBS - it's simply not important to his character in Oda's mind.

Ztard cope, zoro is NOT a top tier.

 

[yorosenpai]

OP fans gotta realise Oda will never shit on Zoro.

Pre-TS he would absolutely shit on Zoro. But pre-TS and post-TS are like two different manga. Pre-TS, anything could happen in an arc. The SHs were individual characters who cared about their dreams.

Post-TS, Oda has shoehorned every SH into a category. He's taken whatever gag/troupe they had pre-TS and he's made it their entire character. Chopper used to have some great moments, now he's a mascot. Zoro actually used to smile and goof around pre-TS, now he's just one-liners and cool panels. Sanji went from protecting women to being a total pervert. Franky gets no special emphasis even when surrounded by his idol, Vegapunk. Luffy's gone full goofy. Robin only speaks when there's a poneglyph in the panel. The list goes on...

As a result, Zoro's character has reduced down to 'token badass'. Oda will never shit on Zoro, because Zoro must be the badass of the crew. In fact, Zoro is the only protagonist Oda won't shit on. It's sad, because he was much more interesting as a character pre-TS along with every other SH. But from a powerscaling perspective, you will never need to worry about Zoro because the only part of his character that Oda cares about is his strength, and for that, he is willing to let Zoro look even better than Luffy. Oda will happily shit on Luffy, but he'll also wank Luffy to high hell. Nearly as much as he wanked Oden.

E.g. Hakai. Oda had Zoro save Luffy multiple times and block a combined attack from two Yonko before he ever awakened CoC. He then had Zoro scar Kaido back when Zoro was still a high-tier. He showed that he's willing to make Zoro look even better than Luffy at times because he's unfortunately made being a badass Zoro's entire character. It's honestly like pre and post-TS One Piece have two different authors.

That's why Zoro's back story is like 5 pages and his family tree was revealed in an SBS - it's simply not important to his character in Oda's mind.

indeed, I am interested in seeing the raw (hopefully will take just a few hours of wait)

 

[MonsterZoro]

@MonsterZoro
We need you knowledge:
Rank the Gorosei based on their powerlevel.

Gorosei in compare to Admirals and Yonkou, which group is stronger?

Gorosei = Yonko = fleet admiral > Admirals

Mars>top man > nasjuro > ju peter > saturn

 

[Tejas]

Kizaru merit anyway.
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If Zoro is conscious then he isn't defeated. Kizaru claim is not to defeat Zoro but that he is unconscious

No merit to Kizaru

 

[Ice devil slayer]

They think Lucci is like this :

- "Maketa Ore ga ? Maketa" (I lost ? me ?)

Arima>>poop piece

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Kidd Pirates are in Elbaf too. Soooo there's more chance of Killer vs Smoothie than Zoro vs Smoothie.

Also, idk if Big Mom in Elbaf is happening, let alone Luffy vs Big Meme.

I think Smoothie is a Robin or Nami fight

 

[Shiroyru]

@JoNdule Kizaru fans somehow think he’s the only person in history who has managed to reach high top tier despite not having CoC or Awakening lol

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Oh damn thread is hella slow today

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

 

[Nadel]

Zoro is the swordsman warrior of the crew,...that's why Zoro is strong because he has to defend the crew from the enemies.

 

[Nekomamushi]

 

[V2DiabLoO]

Well, you might be right, I would probably praise the guy who finally managed to scratch me while he couldn't scratch me 7 days before. Yes, Kaido accepted the man of 200+ punches despite all 200+ doing less damage than one scar from Zoro.
I mean Lucci can praise him too but Zoro's hit is simply more powerful. Funny thing is that this time, Lucci didn't praise him but trashed him.
If you can tell the difference between those two scenarios, tell me about it.
Why Zoro knocking someone off his feet is a million times better than Luffy doing it?

It is better because according to Kaido himself, he thinks with Zoro's power he can conquer the world while he didn't say the same for Luffy's healing panchis. Those are the facts, you either can accept them or cope because of them. Which shall it be?
Scabbards knocked him down, Kuri Luffy knocked him down. You know how much knocking down like that matters? Not at all.
Nothing stops you from thinking it is a great feat. Godfy and Scabbards on the same level, actually Scabbards are superior.

G5 lasts 20 minutes factually so yes, your boi couldn't put Lucci down for 20 minutes with his peak and several named moves.
Zoro put him down with the first named move he used. 3.3% of Zoro's power stands above Luffy's peak. Shocking, I know.

"knock me down" is correct term (something Zoro couldn't, btw).

Funny thing Kaido was only praising Luffy and how he made him serious and such, while Zoro only got "one scar is enough for you" while he couldn't make him fall on his knees.

what do you mean better than Luffy doing it? the fk even you talking about bro? well according to manga itself it was all of them (this is 3rd time 'm writing this bro reads but cant comprehend cut some slack for bro guys.) Kaido was talking all of those guys lul


those healing puncis made Kaido serious, split skies with him, and knocked kaido down with his basic punches (zoro couldnt do it to Lucci with acoc and named attack, btw)



You should say that to Zoro bro, it cuts Kaido (same as scabbards, btw, sahahaha) but couldnt make him fall while even scabbards cut him and made him fall. i guess i should scale zoro < Scabbards now


So Zoro was fighting with lucci an hour-long fight, equally huffing and puffing, you say? you know Luffy used 2 G5 since Lucci and zoro started to fight.


an hour of fighting with Lucci equally huffing and puffing while holding 2 power vs 20 minutes of fighting rag-doll Lucci without using 6 powers i like those odds

 

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@JoNdule Kizaru fans somehow think he’s the only person in history who has managed to reach high top tier despite not having CoC or Awakening lol

First we need to know which characters are high top tier

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

 

[Jaguark101]

 

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"knock me down" is correct term (something Zoro couldn't, btw).

Funny thing Kaido was only praising Luffy and how he made him serious and such, while Zoro only got "one scar is enough for you" while he couldn't make him fall on his knees.

what do you mean better than Luffy doing it? the fk even you talking about bro? well according to manga itself it was all of them (this is 3rd time 'm writing this bro reads but cant comprehend cut some slack for bro guys.) Kaido was talking all of those guys lul


those healing puncis made Kaido serious, split skies with him, and knocked kaido down with his basic punches (zoro couldnt do it to Lucci with acoc and named attack, btw)



You should say that to Zoro bro, it cuts Kaido (same as scabbards, btw, sahahaha) but couldnt make him fall while even scabbards cut him and made him fall. i guess i should scale zoro < Scabbards now


So Zoro was fighting with lucci an hour-long fight, equally huffing and puffing, you say? you know Luffy used 2 G5 since Lucci and zoro started to fight.


an hour of fighting with Lucci equally huffing and puffing while holding 2 power vs 20 minutes of fighting rag-doll Lucci without using 6 powers i like those odds

Okay bro...

 

[Nekomamushi]

I feel it, detailed summary will be soooo good.

 

[MonsterZoro]

I feel it, detailed summary will be soooo good.