Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1111 Spoilers Discussion
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To counter my point, you contradicted yourself and, in turn, ended up defeating the whole point you were trying to make. You tried to argue Jinbe attacked Lucci because he knew he's not done yet or at least tried to argue that Lucci would be a threat if he was left alone without attacking. And then you tried to use that as a reason to prove, Lucci wasn't defeated by Zoro's attack—at least not fully.
I never said Jinbe did not know anything, I said he couldn't know Lucci's condition for us to talk about how Jinbe wouldn't attack a defeated man, which you seemingly agree with given the point you're trying to make about how even Zoro himself having no clue about Lucci's condition. That makes the whole "Jinbe wouldn't attack Lucci without a reason" argument redundant as Jinbe too shouldn't know anything about Lucci condition just like Zoro and he attacked him anyways.
CD and I were arguing whether Zoro's one-shot counters as such or not i.e., if it counts as a defeat or not. If you think he was defeated then there's no point in arguing with me in the first place. Also, there were literally 0 hints suggesting Lucci's going to be a threat to them besides the fact that he was conscious, and staying conscious =/= less damage or quick recovery. Kaku was conscious after Asura, yet he took the most damage sans Lucci during EL while the likes of Jyabura, who got knocked out cold, recovered way quicker than Kaku.
While Lucci did kinda take the Monet treatment, Lucci ain't no Monet. She was no threat to Zoro whether she recovered or not, while Lucci could threaten everyone not named Zoro and Luffy from the crew, so he wouldn't leave the room unfinished.
I think we both agree we're arguing with limited information. Keeping Jinbe's character in mind, I'd say it makes more sense to assume Jinbe just barged in and attacked Lucci without thinking just to get Zoro out of there instead of it being a calculated move to make sure Lucci wouldn't recover after Zoro's attack.
I never said Jinbe did not know anything, I said he couldn't know Lucci's condition for us to talk about how Jinbe wouldn't attack a defeated man, which you seemingly agree with given the point you're trying to make about how even Zoro himself having no clue about Lucci's condition. That makes the whole "Jinbe wouldn't attack Lucci without a reason" argument redundant as Jinbe too shouldn't know anything about Lucci condition just like Zoro and he attacked him anyways.
CD and I were arguing whether Zoro's one-shot counters as such or not i.e., if it counts as a defeat or not. If you think he was defeated then there's no point in arguing with me in the first place. Also, there were literally 0 hints suggesting Lucci's going to be a threat to them besides the fact that he was conscious, and staying conscious =/= less damage or quick recovery. Kaku was conscious after Asura, yet he took the most damage sans Lucci during EL while the likes of Jyabura, who got knocked out cold, recovered way quicker than Kaku.
Zoro just didn't follow through
Mind you, this is a mistake that he made previously which almost resulted in the entire crew getting killed by Monet
This isn't particularly new
This isn't particularly new
I think we both agree we're arguing with limited information. Keeping Jinbe's character in mind, I'd say it makes more sense to assume Jinbe just barged in and attacked Lucci without thinking just to get Zoro out of there instead of it being a calculated move to make sure Lucci wouldn't recover after Zoro's attack.
But he did kill Vegapunk. He went through all the trouble of kicking Sanji and shooting a laser beam when Vegapunk was already dying from Saturn's attacks.
If anything, Kizaru should have been in rage mode after killing Vegapunk and should have vented all his anger and frustration on Luffy.
Right. 5 of them together are probably stronger than Kaido, I can buy that, but not individually
If anything, Kizaru should have been in rage mode after killing Vegapunk and should have vented all his anger and frustration on Luffy.
Right. 5 of them together are probably stronger than Kaido, I can buy that, but not individually
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