[FNZ] Role Madness One Piece: Water 7/Enies Lobby

[MangoSenpai]

Progression of the red night vote once I opened my mouth. A lot don't look good after I said unvote and let's discuss

Watson was town, Cal I am quite sure is town as well based on play, like I said earlier, I doubt even as the busser that he is, that he'd mass tag and drive the Ekko lynch that hard. Ekko would not allow that as his teammate.

So that leaves Pot, Kiku, Yoho and Relo

Which coincidentally all is in PoE

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

@Fujishiro VC?

 

[MangoSenpai]

But when you think about it right, why would scum Commute Worst here now?

LM lived N1 because he allegedly jailed Worst, and LM lived N2 because (?).

I'd have to look at Worst's reads, there may be info there.
There are about 3 reasonable explanations for this;
1. LM is scum, and they commuted Worst to save LM
2. Scum is in Worst's PoE and commuted him to have him waste yet another shot
3. Scum commuted worst to implicate him as fake vig, as there has been no shots.

1 and 2 implies that scum doesn't have redirect, otherwise I don't see the purpose of commuting Worst other than to cause confusion, which fair enough is a good enough reason in itself.

 

[MangoSenpai]

3. Scum commuted worst to implicate him as fake vig, as there has been no shots.

On this narrative it could be possible that LM is redirector and they redirected me to worst who was commuted, and this way he could reasonably claim that I was jailed and that's why I got no results.

It would be a strange approach, but it would cause a lot of confusion, which might have been their goal.

Do I think it's likely? Not really, but I'm exploring all angles here.

 

[MangoSenpai]

On this narrative it could be possible that LM is redirector and they redirected me to worst who was commuted, and this way he could reasonably claim that I was jailed and that's why I got no results.

It would be a strange approach, but it would cause a lot of confusion, which might have been their goal.

Do I think it's likely? Not really, but I'm exploring all angles here.

And in support of this theory, LM has softed that Worst could be faking vig as it was Gambit's role.

 

[Worst]

And in support of this theory, LM has softed that Worst could be faking vig as it was Gambit's role.

Well if that was the case wouldn't have been stupid for me to come ahead voting him claiming i have reasons to suspecting and then claiming i've attempted to kill him ? twice ?

 

[MangoSenpai]

But I'll be the first to say that it is quite a tinfoil theory.

LM hasn't really been pushing Worst, but rather planted the seeds, and could be why he called to be read based on his play. That way he could without directly telling me, have me find the post where he softs Worst faking vig.


Though again, while I see a possible connection to this theory, I am asking myself if this is really the angle scum would take.
Do they really opt for confusion over culling numbers?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I'm here but not caught up, anyone got a tldr?

tldr

Pot and Melkor can both be scum. But Melkor should be flipped first.

If you can make a case for Pot first we'd love to hear it!

 

[MangoSenpai]

Well if that was the case wouldn't have been stupid for me to come ahead voting him claiming i have reasons to suspecting and then claiming i've attempted to kill him ? twice ?

Well, I don't know, but assuming you are town - why would scum stop you from killing LM?

If he is town jail, scum would want him gone. So there's no logical explanation for him being alive other than he isn't town, or they are doing it to cause confusion. But again, why would scum prioritize confusion over culling?

Ugh, LM's slot is like schroediger's cat, he could be both, and both are as likely.

 

[MangoSenpai]

tldr

Pot and Melkor can both be scum. But Melkor should be flipped first.

If you can make a case for Pot first we'd love to hear it!

If LM is scum you're his teammate btw, I have 0 reason to believe otherwise.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

If LM is scum you're his teammate btw, I have 0 reason to believe otherwise.

You're free to believe so.

You're conclusion is just wrong though lol

 

[Yoho]

Good morning

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Good morning

afternoon.

you caught up?

 

[Worst]

Well, I don't know, but assuming you are town - why would scum stop you from killing LM?

If he is town jail, scum would want him gone. So there's no logical explanation for him being alive other than he isn't town, or they are doing it to cause confusion. But again, why would scum prioritize confusion over culling?

Ugh, LM's slot is like schroediger's cat, he could be both, and both are as likely.

Yeah especially since they know i have a super and was likely gonna fire it last night...i halted it only because i knew they would try and stop me

 

[Polar Bear]

Put it this way. Imo of melkor is town, and I think he has played that way mostly, doesn't that make kiku the scum rolecrush?

She claimed to hold her shot after @MangoSenpai claimed his results (can someone check that)

Also would town have a jail, a roleblock within Naomi joat, and a rolecrush....and someone who can refill those?

Also if the vig and sk has strongman hits, what's the point of the rolecrush?

I'm stuck here and based in her play I'm even more stuck.

Also what was @Zemmi claim?

 

[MangoSenpai]

Yeah especially since they know i have a super and was likely gonna fire it last night...i halted it only because i knew they would try and stop me

wait wait wait, you're now saying you didn't shoot?

 

[Yoho]

afternoon.

you caught up?

From what I can tell its still a discussion between Melkor and Pot

Melkor makes more sense in my opinion

But once the angry mob finally makes a collective decision I'll join the hammer

 

[MangoSenpai]

Also what was @Zemmi claim?

Crush healer - basically if she hits someone who was also crushed - would negate it.

Seems kinda whack, but it's my understanding of her claim

 

[Jaguark101]

tldr

Pot and Melkor can both be scum. But Melkor should be flipped first.

If you can make a case for Pot first we'd love to hear it!

Thanks mate. I have not got a case for either of them.

 

[Worst]

wait wait wait, you're now saying you didn't shoot?

Yeah i did just a regular shot though