Sure. This thread is more straightforward than the other, in that thread I was trying to find like the main reason why so many of you hated Wano, however, here is quite different since I am trying to know all the of complaints you might have ever since the star of act 1. But of course, this will be my final thread about this specific topic.
General & Others List all the things that you don't like so far in Wano arc.
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Zoro not rounding up the samurai
I hate that there is NO STRONG samurai enemies, rather the strong ones from Samurai are on our side, so it's a disappointment
I hate the fact that Orochi who's been on point all the time in this arc, yet the enemy is neglecting his words, somehow, they are in new world and cannot seem to wrap their heads around the idea of someone having a DF sending people to future, even when evidence of Kanjuro one of the 9 scabbards SHOWED up right in front of them lately and warned them
I don't like the fact that Wano is isolated in new from the world and opposite, it just leave some holes in story, specially since many outside characters are involved in Wano
I don't like the fact that we explored Wano different region only to leave it for the battle!
I believe story would be much better if Onigashima was at the centre of Wano
While Flower Capital is another city next to Onigashima
Simple because the different climates in Wano, the vast land, can allow you to have some GREAT tactical manuvers for armies...etc
Those are the ones at the top of my head
I hate that there is NO STRONG samurai enemies, rather the strong ones from Samurai are on our side, so it's a disappointment
I hate the fact that Orochi who's been on point all the time in this arc, yet the enemy is neglecting his words, somehow, they are in new world and cannot seem to wrap their heads around the idea of someone having a DF sending people to future, even when evidence of Kanjuro one of the 9 scabbards SHOWED up right in front of them lately and warned them
I don't like the fact that Wano is isolated in new from the world and opposite, it just leave some holes in story, specially since many outside characters are involved in Wano
I don't like the fact that we explored Wano different region only to leave it for the battle!
I believe story would be much better if Onigashima was at the centre of Wano
While Flower Capital is another city next to Onigashima
Simple because the different climates in Wano, the vast land, can allow you to have some GREAT tactical manuvers for armies...etc
Those are the ones at the top of my head
The Reverie arc was paused abruptly and the story continued with Wano. Oda shouldve finished that arc first
No.1 disappointment is Toki. Oda seems to have intoduced her only to use her df. I expected some insight on the Void century from her.
Big Meme - she had to ruin another arc
Sanji getting inconclusive fights
Zoros lineage not revealed. He was having his own adventure till now in Wano which would have been a very good time to show his backstory.
Odens dragged on flashback. Idk even why Oda even wrote 2 chapters on the mountain God plot which had 0 influence on the current story.
Best thing is ofc Queen
No.1 disappointment is Toki. Oda seems to have intoduced her only to use her df. I expected some insight on the Void century from her.
Big Meme - she had to ruin another arc
Sanji getting inconclusive fights
Zoros lineage not revealed. He was having his own adventure till now in Wano which would have been a very good time to show his backstory.
Odens dragged on flashback. Idk even why Oda even wrote 2 chapters on the mountain God plot which had 0 influence on the current story.
Best thing is ofc Queen
Starting from the beginning:
- Luffy vs Urashima
- Luffy vs Holdem
- Zoro disappearing without any reason
- Luffy vs fodders
- Sanji vs Page One being offpanelled
- Big Mom amnesia
- Zoro disappearing from Ebisu Town
- Kid disappearing from Udon and him not being able to do a single thing
- Zoro fainting to Kamazo (it was so funny see Zoro boys reaction i can forgive this
) - Luffy vs more fodders
- What happened after Yasu execution being offpanelled
- Luffy vs even more fodders and Queen's weapon
- Law being captured and freed in a chapter
- Zoro fighting the monk again without achieving nothing again
- Hiyori giving up Enma so easily
- 95% of Oden's flashback (most of it was what we already know but a bit expanded, the rest was just lame except for a few things)
- The strawhats being useless
- Luffy causing a ruckus for the oshiruko
- Sasaki being captured
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Starting from the beginning:
- Luffy vs Urashima
- Luffy vs Holdem
- Zoro disappearing without any reason
- Luffy vs fodders
- Sanji vs Page One being offpanelled
- Big Mom amnesia
- Zoro disappearing from Ebisu Town
- Kid disappearing from Udon and him being not able to do a single thing
- Zoro fainting to Kamazo (it was so funny see Zoro boys reaction i can forgive this )
- Luffy vs more fodders
- What happened after Yasu execution being offpanelled
- Luffy vs even more fodders and Queen's weapon
- Law being captured and freed in a chapter
- Zoro fighting the monk again without achieving nothing again
- Hiyori giving up Enma so easily
- 95% of Oden's flashback (most of it was what we already know but a bit expanded, the rest was just lame except for a few things)
- The strawhats being useless
- Luffy causing a ruckus for the oshiruko
- Sasaki being captured
Edit : never mind
Starting from the beginning:
- Luffy vs Urashima
- Luffy vs Holdem
- Zoro disappearing without any reason
- Luffy vs fodders
- Sanji vs Page One being offpanelled
- Big Mom amnesia
- Zoro disappearing from Ebisu Town
- Kid disappearing from Udon and him not being able to do a single thing
- Zoro fainting to Kamazo (it was so funny see Zoro boys reaction i can forgive this )
- Luffy vs more fodders
- What happened after Yasu execution being offpanelled
- Luffy vs even more fodders and Queen's weapon
- Law being captured and freed in a chapter
- Zoro fighting the monk again without achieving nothing again
- Hiyori giving up Enma so easily
- 95% of Oden's flashback (most of it was what we already know but a bit expanded, the rest was just lame except for a few things)
- The strawhats being useless
- Luffy causing a ruckus for the oshiruko
- Sasaki being captured
So much negativity #YouLostTheWar
By the start of the war no, too many wasted opportunities in these 70+ chapters. I've hated almost everything.
By the end of it yes, my expectations are very low as you can imagine tho
Marineford is the arc Oda shouldn't absolutely take inspiration from. His suns should be Enies Lobby and Thriller Bark .
A longer Enies Lobby with even longer and tougher fights for the strawhats (Sanji and Zoro even with help vs King and Queen is a must), an awesome Kaido's flashback and a great and Oars-vs-strawhats-like Kaido vs everyone is the key. Then Blackbeard or Shanks intervention and Sanji discovering Sword existence and kicking Drake and i can forgive him for the first three acts of Wano and the end of WCI
Maybe
By the end of it yes, my expectations are very low as you can imagine tho
Marineford is the arc Oda shouldn't absolutely take inspiration from. His suns should be Enies Lobby and Thriller Bark .
A longer Enies Lobby with even longer and tougher fights for the strawhats (Sanji and Zoro even with help vs King and Queen is a must), an awesome Kaido's flashback and a great and Oars-vs-strawhats-like Kaido vs everyone is the key. Then Blackbeard or Shanks intervention and Sanji discovering Sword existence and kicking Drake and i can forgive him for the first three acts of Wano and the end of WCI
Maybe
1. Big Mom Pirates portrayal
(The waterfall and the Big Mom's amnesia)
2. Pacing
3. Plot
4. Oden's flashback
5. Luffy have too much spotlight while the rest of the SH stay in the background
6. Off-screen fights and stuff
7. Luffy and Zoro vs fodders
8. Zoro not doing what he supposed to do like rounding the samurais and getting weapons
9. Kid doing nothing
10. Page One getting the disrespect that's he's not supposed to
(The waterfall and the Big Mom's amnesia)2. Pacing
3. Plot
4. Oden's flashback
5. Luffy have too much spotlight while the rest of the SH stay in the background
6. Off-screen fights and stuff
7. Luffy and Zoro vs fodders
8. Zoro not doing what he supposed to do like rounding the samurais and getting weapons
9. Kid doing nothing
10. Page One getting the disrespect that's he's not supposed to
Why 😮
Well, I understand your opinion. But although the wound still hurts
, I like that Oda tells us more about Ace when there is opportunity. Also, since Marineford we knew that Ace had visited Wano, so Oda was not going to waste that idea.
Lol guys, you read almost everything Wano dislikes xD, but although I don't share your opinion I respect it because the tastes are personal.
Well, I understand your opinion. But although the wound still hurts
, I like that Oda tells us more about Ace when there is opportunity. Also, since Marineford we knew that Ace had visited Wano, so Oda was not going to waste that idea.
Starting from the beginning:
- Luffy vs Urashima
- Luffy vs Holdem
- Zoro disappearing without any reason
- Luffy vs fodders
- Sanji vs Page One being offpanelled
- Big Mom amnesia
- Zoro disappearing from Ebisu Town
- Kid disappearing from Udon and him not being able to do a single thing
- Zoro fainting to Kamazo (it was so funny see Zoro boys reaction i can forgive this )
- Luffy vs more fodders
- What happened after Yasu execution being offpanelled
- Luffy vs even more fodders and Queen's weapon
- Law being captured and freed in a chapter
- Zoro fighting the monk again without achieving nothing again
- Hiyori giving up Enma so easily
- 95% of Oden's flashback (most of it was what we already know but a bit expanded, the rest was just lame except for a few things)
- The strawhats being useless
- Luffy causing a ruckus for the oshiruko
- Sasaki being captured
1. Big Mom Pirates portrayal(The waterfall and the Big Mom's amnesia)
2. Pacing
3. Plot
4. Oden's flashback
5. Luffy have too much spotlight while the rest of the SH stay in the background
6. Off-screen fights and stuff
7. Luffy and Zoro vs fodders
8. Zoro not doing what he supposed to do like rounding the samurais and getting weapons
9. Kid doing nothing
10. Page One getting the disrespect that's he's not supposed to
(The waterfall and the Big Mom's amnesia)2. Pacing
3. Plot
4. Oden's flashback
5. Luffy have too much spotlight while the rest of the SH stay in the background
6. Off-screen fights and stuff
7. Luffy and Zoro vs fodders
8. Zoro not doing what he supposed to do like rounding the samurais and getting weapons
9. Kid doing nothing
10. Page One getting the disrespect that's he's not supposed to
Big Mom's amnesia
BMP being delayed twice to arrive at Onigashima
Luffy vs Urashima(This was even worst in the anime)
Sanji vs Page One being off paneled
Luffy's training in Udon
Tama being able to control the SMILE users with her devil fruit ability
Oden vs Kaido
Oden believing Orochi and Kaido's lies and making himself look like a clown
BMP being delayed twice to arrive at Onigashima
Luffy vs Urashima(This was even worst in the anime)
Sanji vs Page One being off paneled
Luffy's training in Udon
Tama being able to control the SMILE users with her devil fruit ability
Oden vs Kaido
Oden believing Orochi and Kaido's lies and making himself look like a clown
