Controversial One Piece is gross and creepy
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Bonney yes, but not Momo or Hancock. I don't think we are reading the same story. Momo is never sexualized, he is a perv but his body is never depicted in a sexual attractive way and Hancock is not as well. I think you are confusing different things here.
Which would be logical, but that wouldn't be a problem. That would actually serv the story. Do you understand what we are talking about here ?
Indeed. That's the point of the story, its meant to be disturbing and sad.
I think you weirdos are the only one seeing the trope "age is just a number" here
Which would be logical, but that wouldn't be a problem. That would actually serv the story. Do you understand what we are talking about here ?
Indeed. That's the point of the story, its meant to be disturbing and sad.
I think you weirdos are the only one seeing the trope "age is just a number" here
I'm just going to go point by point.
1. 10-year-old Hancock turning people into stone
-Boa's powers are not lust based. She was able to turn Amazons who did not view her sexually into stone. The heart eyes are... uh... problematic, though.
2. Hancock and Luffy
-The coming of age in One Piece is 16, as shown by Pudding's (sham of a) wedding, and Vivi's coming of age ceremony that was delayed until she retook the throne of Alabasta.
No one bats an eye at Luffy drinking alcohol, and Luffy was clearly capable of living his own life by the time he left Foosha Village. Treating Pre-Time-Skip Luffy like a child or Boa like a predator is acting like the modern world is comparable to a fictional universe where a 139 year old lady is a top-tier axe-thrower and one woman extended her own pregnancy double it's normal length to protect her child from a manhunt.
Koby joined the Marines at 16, once again proving the coming of age/age of adulthood in the One Piece universe is the age of 16.
If 16 years olds in the One Piece universe can join the military, I'm assuming the age of consent is also around there. Through all of Whole Cake, Pudding's age was never called into question by anyone, even the Straw Hats/Jinbe, implying getting married upon reaching the coming of age at 16 is normal.
3. Momo bathing with adults
-Oh nooooooooooo the kid whose parents died got to see titties in the bath, fucking hell, grow up. 21st century and we still justify loser adults who can't see kids naked without acting up ruining casual nudity for everyone who isn't a shithead. Black bushmen in Africa are the last men with enough respect to walk around half-naked women without pulling crap, unlike Epstein's forefathers like Thomas Jefferson who owned a 14-year-old black sex slave
Fools like you are why shitheads raised me to believe that titties are dangerous
4. Carrot being drawn innapropriately
-Uh, when? Because she has boobs? Did you know, that mangaka draw boobs on teenage girls, because teenage girls... have boobs? WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. When the hell did Oda lewd Carrot?
5. Film Z Sanji
-You dropped the Manga because of Film Z? The fuck?
6. Boa's Fruit
-Ugh. Wrong. "If the Love-Love Fruit was capable of petrifying inanimate objects, then that means its powers never needed the target to be attracted to the user, and with volume #106’s SBS, that idea is finally confirmed." https://screenrant.com/one-piece-love-love-fruit-hancock-seraphim-problematic/
If you want to drop One Piece over Oda's connections to his former pedo-sensei, I can understand that, because that's a serious issue with Japan and the world, and I don't think Oda did enough to denounce it, AT ALL.
One Piece has problematic sexualization of mature teenage (15-16 range) and adult female characters, Oda does not sexualize children, stop it.
1. 10-year-old Hancock turning people into stone
-Boa's powers are not lust based. She was able to turn Amazons who did not view her sexually into stone. The heart eyes are... uh... problematic, though.
2. Hancock and Luffy
-The coming of age in One Piece is 16, as shown by Pudding's (sham of a) wedding, and Vivi's coming of age ceremony that was delayed until she retook the throne of Alabasta.
No one bats an eye at Luffy drinking alcohol, and Luffy was clearly capable of living his own life by the time he left Foosha Village. Treating Pre-Time-Skip Luffy like a child or Boa like a predator is acting like the modern world is comparable to a fictional universe where a 139 year old lady is a top-tier axe-thrower and one woman extended her own pregnancy double it's normal length to protect her child from a manhunt.
Koby joined the Marines at 16, once again proving the coming of age/age of adulthood in the One Piece universe is the age of 16.
If 16 years olds in the One Piece universe can join the military, I'm assuming the age of consent is also around there. Through all of Whole Cake, Pudding's age was never called into question by anyone, even the Straw Hats/Jinbe, implying getting married upon reaching the coming of age at 16 is normal.
3. Momo bathing with adults
-Oh nooooooooooo the kid whose parents died got to see titties in the bath, fucking hell, grow up. 21st century and we still justify loser adults who can't see kids naked without acting up ruining casual nudity for everyone who isn't a shithead. Black bushmen in Africa are the last men with enough respect to walk around half-naked women without pulling crap, unlike Epstein's forefathers like Thomas Jefferson who owned a 14-year-old black sex slave
Fools like you are why shitheads raised me to believe that titties are dangerous
4. Carrot being drawn innapropriately
-Uh, when? Because she has boobs? Did you know, that mangaka draw boobs on teenage girls, because teenage girls... have boobs? WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. When the hell did Oda lewd Carrot?
5. Film Z Sanji
-You dropped the Manga because of Film Z? The fuck?
6. Boa's Fruit
-Ugh. Wrong. "If the Love-Love Fruit was capable of petrifying inanimate objects, then that means its powers never needed the target to be attracted to the user, and with volume #106’s SBS, that idea is finally confirmed." https://screenrant.com/one-piece-love-love-fruit-hancock-seraphim-problematic/
If you want to drop One Piece over Oda's connections to his former pedo-sensei, I can understand that, because that's a serious issue with Japan and the world, and I don't think Oda did enough to denounce it, AT ALL.
One Piece has problematic sexualization of mature teenage (15-16 range) and adult female characters, Oda does not sexualize children, stop it.
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Which loops back to my initial point. It's all subjective.
You're not supposed to look at 20+ year old Bonney, and envision 12 year old Bonney.
I've already explained Boa's fruit doesn't work like that.
You're not supposed to look at Momo bathing with the older women in a sexualized manner.
Drawing women like that is riddled all throughout manga. Oda does it more than some, but there are others who take it too a whole other extreme.
Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, it's a stapple, because it sells. Whose the one that's really sus? The one who draws it, because people feed into it, or the people who feed into it, and buy it for those specific reasons?
I read fiction because I enjoy it, and have my own subjective takes on what is meant to be represented. However other people want to look at those same scenarios and envision what the implications are, is whatever to me.
You're not supposed to look at 20+ year old Bonney, and envision 12 year old Bonney.
I've already explained Boa's fruit doesn't work like that.
You're not supposed to look at Momo bathing with the older women in a sexualized manner.
Drawing women like that is riddled all throughout manga. Oda does it more than some, but there are others who take it too a whole other extreme.
Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, it's a stapple, because it sells. Whose the one that's really sus? The one who draws it, because people feed into it, or the people who feed into it, and buy it for those specific reasons?
I read fiction because I enjoy it, and have my own subjective takes on what is meant to be represented. However other people want to look at those same scenarios and envision what the implications are, is whatever to me.
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I thought u wanted to discuss the topic, but apparently you're just triggered by my first reply, as in i have to say everything in my mind in first post of thread & i must be careful what i say in front of you
I gave him a more detailed answer, then you quoted me as well, and i gave you a detailed answer too
But let's instead focus on how i should choose what to say, so that the random people on an online forum don't assume things, as if i care what anyone assumes
I gave him a more detailed answer, then you quoted me as well, and i gave you a detailed answer too
But let's instead focus on how i should choose what to say, so that the random people on an online forum don't assume things, as if i care what anyone assumes
It doesn't seem subjective form Oda's end, when oda knows he draws suggestive things for pervs and then does it with Bonney and makes her 12..ofc you could interprete it the way you want and subjectively but the implications are creepy following your line of thought. Wouldn't a health minded level headed adult ask the quesiton "WHY TF IS HE NOW TURNING A WOMAN HE BEING SEXUALIZING FOR HUNGRY SALIVATING INTO A 12 YR OLD KID"
BRAH IF THAT AIN'T CREEPY FOLLOWING YOUR IDEA FOR CAN SERVICE IDK WHAT IS THEN
we were discussing your claim to cultural differences being Chrono's problem nah i said its been perversion that's the key point
Turns out you have been talking about age of consent all this time even after knowing how i have been interpreting, and prolly many here have, your first comment.
It aight.. It just seems like a waste of time now.
BRAH IF THAT AIN'T CREEPY FOLLOWING YOUR IDEA FOR CAN SERVICE IDK WHAT IS THEN
we were discussing your claim to cultural differences being Chrono's problem nah i said its been perversion that's the key point
Turns out you have been talking about age of consent all this time even after knowing how i have been interpreting, and prolly many here have, your first comment.
It aight.. It just seems like a waste of time now.
It doesn't seem subjective form Oda's, when oda knows he draws suggestive things for pervs and then does it with Bonney and makes her 12..ofc you could interprete it the way you want and subjectively but the implications are creepy following your lane of thought. Wouldn't a health minded level headed adult ask the quesiton "WHY TF IS HE NOW TURNING A WOMAN HE BEING SEXUALIZING FOR HUNGRY SALIVATING IN A 12 YR OLD KID"
BRAH IF THAT AIN'T CREEPY FOLLOWING YOUR IDEA FOR CAN SERVICE IDK WHAT IS THEN
we were discussing your claim to cultural differences being Chrono's problem nah i said its been perversion that's the key point
Turns out you have been talking about age of consent all this time even after knowing how i have been interpreting, and prolly many here have, your first comment.
It aight.. It just seems like a waste of time now.
BRAH IF THAT AIN'T CREEPY FOLLOWING YOUR IDEA FOR CAN SERVICE IDK WHAT IS THEN
we were discussing your claim to cultural differences being Chrono's problem nah i said its been perversion that's the key point
Turns out you have been talking about age of consent all this time even after knowing how i have been interpreting, and prolly many here have, your first comment.
It aight.. It just seems like a waste of time now.
So I turn is back on you. Why do you envision such things, when there is an alternative to every scenario?
I believe its quite logical to assume that its unambiguously creepy to turn an nigh-adult that some pervs fap off to into a 12yr old.
Can i personally interpret it my own way? Hell yes but what implications does it have for the countless pervs? Or nvm them, just generally the idea of knowingly making someone who he has dressed quite inappropriately into a 12yr old is quite creepy in of itself
If those aren't natrual conclusions to come to then gender definitely doesn't depend on chromosomes.
Can i personally interpret it my own way? Hell yes but what implications does it have for the countless pervs? Or nvm them, just generally the idea of knowingly making someone who he has dressed quite inappropriately into a 12yr old is quite creepy in of itself
If those aren't natrual conclusions to come to then gender definitely doesn't depend on chromosomes.
And I'm not supposed to see the sky as blue, it still is.
Oda has made it canon that Nami is eager to stimulate a child for money, that's canon, that is what he wrote into the story. It is what it is
Yes, it is riddled throughout manga which is why it maps out pretty well that men who read manga tend to be porn-addicted nolifes. Cause and effect my man
Right so you're afraid to commit or have any strong opinions, sorry that isn't how reality works.
There is the true interpretation for example that Oda's work is completely inundated with lewdness and perversion, if not outright pedophilia...then there is every other (wrong) interpretation that no, One Piece isn't pure raunch and Oda having an 8-year old fondling a grown woman is no more appalling than a blue sky (denial through the roof
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Oda has made it canon that Nami is eager to stimulate a child for money, that's canon, that is what he wrote into the story. It is what it is
Yes, it is riddled throughout manga which is why it maps out pretty well that men who read manga tend to be porn-addicted nolifes. Cause and effect my man
Right so you're afraid to commit or have any strong opinions, sorry that isn't how reality works.
There is the true interpretation for example that Oda's work is completely inundated with lewdness and perversion, if not outright pedophilia...then there is every other (wrong) interpretation that no, One Piece isn't pure raunch and Oda having an 8-year old fondling a grown woman is no more appalling than a blue sky (denial through the roof
)
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What you fail to understand is that 12 year old Bonney and Adult Bonney are two separate entities. The fruit ages people to that actual age. It creates alternate versions of those people. They are meant to be looked at independently. This is how Bonney acts when she is 12, and this is how Bonney acts when she is 20+. You can literally see the difference in depiction between the two. 12 year old Bonney does not act, nor is depicted like 20+ year old Bonney. I separate the two when reading the story, because older Bonney is meant to be an alternate older version of herself. When Oda starts depicting 12 year old Bonney in the same manner, I'll take up arms right along side you.
And I'm not supposed to see the sky as blue, it still is.
Oda has made it canon that Nami is eager to stimulate a child for money, that's canon, that is what he wrote into the story. It is what it is
Yes, it is riddled throughout manga which is why it maps out pretty well that men who read manga tend to be porn-addicted nolifes. Cause and effect my man
Right so you're afraid to commit or have any strong opinions, sorry that isn't how reality works.
There is the true interpretation for example that Oda's work is completely inundated with lewdness and perversion, if not outright pedophilia...then there is every other (wrong) interpretation that no, One Piece isn't pure raunch and Oda having an 8-year old fondling a grown woman is no more appalling than a blue sky (denial through the roof)
Here's an alternate to this reply: You're wrong
Oda has made it canon that Nami is eager to stimulate a child for money, that's canon, that is what he wrote into the story. It is what it is
Yes, it is riddled throughout manga which is why it maps out pretty well that men who read manga tend to be porn-addicted nolifes. Cause and effect my man
Right so you're afraid to commit or have any strong opinions, sorry that isn't how reality works.
There is the true interpretation for example that Oda's work is completely inundated with lewdness and perversion, if not outright pedophilia...then there is every other (wrong) interpretation that no, One Piece isn't pure raunch and Oda having an 8-year old fondling a grown woman is no more appalling than a blue sky (denial through the roof
)
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Here's an alternate to this reply: You're wrong
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