Controversial One Piece is gross and creepy
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we ain't civilized like white people 
You buried yourself when you talked about how men who read Manga tend to be porn addicted no life's, yet here you are.
I decompartmentlize things, and bring scenarios into rational reasonings, so I can enjoy what I am reading.
Nobody knows what goes on in an authors mind but themself. Obsessing over why X draws this, and why Y draws that is absurd, and pretending like you know for a concrete fact the reasoning behind things like that is downright an elitist attitude.
I'll say it for the second time. If anything is questionable and should be picked apart is the fact that Authors create scenarios that feed these type of people. However it is not a concrete measure of their personal preference.
I decompartmentlize things, and bring scenarios into rational reasonings, so I can enjoy what I am reading.
Nobody knows what goes on in an authors mind but themself. Obsessing over why X draws this, and why Y draws that is absurd, and pretending like you know for a concrete fact the reasoning behind things like that is downright an elitist attitude.
I'll say it for the second time. If anything is questionable and should be picked apart is the fact that Authors create scenarios that feed these type of people. However it is not a concrete measure of their personal preference.
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Good for you man to be able to approach the way you do , and i say that sincerely, coz there are folks who can't, Atleast you admit that.. There is an objective rationale behind why people look at OP female charcters like they do,and its this culture of perversion. Not everyone has the physical control or the mental ability to do so, but you also can't deem everything subjective to them whilst saying its intentionally intended for those susceptible to it. If that is true then you're just misinterpreting fan services that has an obvious targeted audience and that has shown to creeo people out who aren't into fan service.
I don't need to pull up the studys, they are out there and they aren't on your side here
I'm not saying WHY, obviously nobody can read minds, it is impossible to know the intent, we can only know the effect of said intent which in this case, is Oda promulgating filthy images and scenarios into his story and to his reader
We can't know why even conceptualize why a lolicon artist draws what they draw, but we can see that they do. And that it's wrong
His preference may be towards it or against it, what matters is the effect which is that it is a perversion of his character and story that has caused a reasonable outrage in the community for years, culminating in Egghead
Plus...even if we can't know with 100% certainty, we can still reasonably assume some things for example that he views Luffy as good and Along as bad based on how he potrays their dynamic, or that he portrays Nami as a protagonist and good person, whilst also having her obscene against 8 year olds, therefore we can reasonably assume that these are not violations of morale for a character that he would have a protagonist do it without remorse
I'm not saying WHY, obviously nobody can read minds, it is impossible to know the intent, we can only know the effect of said intent which in this case, is Oda promulgating filthy images and scenarios into his story and to his reader
We can't know why even conceptualize why a lolicon artist draws what they draw, but we can see that they do. And that it's wrong
His preference may be towards it or against it, what matters is the effect which is that it is a perversion of his character and story that has caused a reasonable outrage in the community for years, culminating in Egghead
Plus...even if we can't know with 100% certainty, we can still reasonably assume some things for example that he views Luffy as good and Along as bad based on how he potrays their dynamic, or that he portrays Nami as a protagonist and good person, whilst also having her obscene against 8 year olds, therefore we can reasonably assume that these are not violations of morale for a character that he would have a protagonist do it without remorse
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Okay, gentlemen
Let's remember this is not us. This is Oda, the author, who made these decisions. We are going to distance ourselves from the fact that this motherfker put us into the situation of having to even think about this shit.
The sophisticated, classy, gentlemen that we are, we analyzed the subject and realized there are many strong feelings on it from different points of view. But, again, let's not put ourselves into the position that we must defend our own observation of it.
We didn't know all this shit was gonna happen. I mean, it's questionable, sure. But, we didn't come into it knowing that.
It's probably going to continue... we'll see more of it. The question is - do we condemn the author? Idk. That's tough.
He has his shortcomings.
Let's remember this is not us. This is Oda, the author, who made these decisions. We are going to distance ourselves from the fact that this motherfker put us into the situation of having to even think about this shit.
The sophisticated, classy, gentlemen that we are, we analyzed the subject and realized there are many strong feelings on it from different points of view. But, again, let's not put ourselves into the position that we must defend our own observation of it.
We didn't know all this shit was gonna happen. I mean, it's questionable, sure. But, we didn't come into it knowing that.
It's probably going to continue... we'll see more of it. The question is - do we condemn the author? Idk. That's tough.
He has his shortcomings.
Nami used her body just to have Momo agree with her. So yes there is something very wrong and sus about it. The fact Nami knows this makes her showers even weirder. And yes regardless of whether its a man or a woman, an Adult (especially a stranger) showering with an 8 year old is WRONG !!!!
How would you feel if it was an Adult Man showering with an 8 year old girl ?
How would you feel if it was an Adult Man showering with an 8 year old girl ?
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