If you decide to give the admirals a chakra network for the Naruto characters to implement things like Genjutsu and various other hax reovlving around the presence of the chakra network or manipulation of it. Then you would have to set up how much mastery the admirals have on their chakra control. If you give them Hashirama level/Tsunade level chakra mastery they'll be practically invulnerable to genjutsu, not only that but they'll be able to boost their own attacks with using the chakra.. If you give them no chakra mastery then even the weakest Genjutsu would end them.
Need to have genjutsu work on Admirals -> Give Admirals chakra network
In order for admirals to counter -> Give Admirals chakra control -> Then you need to decide the level of chakra control
Give Admirals top level chakra control -> Giving them a huge boost, that'll boost their base stats even more
Give Admirals low level chakra control -> They get done in by basic genjutsu
It's a pretty complex thing if you want to make genjutsu work on non-Naruto characters.
If you decide to give the admirals a chakra network for the Naruto characters to implement things like Genjutsu and various other hax reovlving around the presence of the chakra network or manipulation of it. Then you would have to set up how much mastery the admirals have on their chakra control. If you give them Hashirama level/Tsunade level chakra mastery they'll be practically invulnerable to genjutsu, not only that but they'll be able to boost their own attacks with using the chakra.. If you give them no chakra mastery then even the weakest Genjutsu would end them.
Need to have genjutsu work on Admirals -> Give Admirals chakra network
In order for admirals to counter -> Give Admirals chakra control -> Then you need to decide the level of chakra control
Give Admirals top level chakra control -> Giving them a huge boost, that'll boost their base stats even more
Give Admirals low level chakra control -> They get done in by basic genjutsu
It's a pretty complex thing if you want to make genjutsu work on non-Naruto characters.
If weโre talking Hax, 3/5 Admirals are invincible unless we grant the Hokage Busoshoku Haki. And even then, top tier Haki users in OP canโt consistently bypass admiral level intangibility.
If we wanna talk about team fight and hax then how about Kuzan flash freezing the Kages to the bone before they can react? Immediately after that, Kizaru pulls out Yasakani no Magatama to obliterate the ice statues.
Sure, but the Kages don't get any advantage from this being a team battle cause the Admirals are also working together. It cancels out, the Kages aren't pushing this to extreme diff.
In a 5v5? Not at all. It's simply too overwhelming. But in a 5vs 1 or at max a 5vs 2 sure they could pull off a win possibly due to the hax like clones /barriers/ etc, where Minato & Tsunade would be extremely lethal when providing the big 3 with support.
But in a 5 on 5 where they'll be picked up by each fighter.. it's to overwhelming
The physical gap between their bodies is too giant bro.
- Zoro pre-TS could hold up 4 tons while standing upside down on his thumbs only. Admirals are FAR above that.
- Garp used Mountains as sandbags, something like that is physically unheard of in Naruto.
Only person from the Naruto side that could match them here in physicality would at best be Hashirama with his SM, but even that it's only based on that lifting power that's granted by Senjutsu would translate into punching power too.. which is questionable.. since punching/kicking power comes heavily from the muscles where the OP verse admirals are FAR FAR superior to Naruto folks.
Nothing they possess can save them from being overwhelmed in a 5v5
You're right. I watched the series years ago so I don't know much concerning their battle prowess but I really don't think all this team fight and hax you talk about the Kages give them much of an advantage as you'd like to say. Besides, is the above scenario impossible? Is Kuzan himself not hax especially in combination with the other Admirals who can put his freezing to great use?
If weโre talking Hax, 3/5 Admirals are invincible unless we grant the Hokage Busoshoku Haki. And even then, top tier Haki users in OP canโt consistently bypass admiral level intangibility.
If we wanna talk about team fight and hax then how about Kuzan flash freezing the Kages to the bone before they can react? Immediately after that, Kizaru pulls out Yasakani no Magatama to obliterate the ice statues.
Aokiji has durability negation with his ice. Akainu as well to an extent, that's just very basic hax though, some might argue it's not even hax, nothing on the level of illusions and shit like that that Naruto has.
I'd personally never let them be intangible if i created a matchup like this. It has nothing to even do with their fighting abilities, they wouldn't be hit by nature of their devil fruit which is just unfair as fuck. Any fodder could get a logia and be intangible.
The OP team seem to have an advantage in speed. Minato is much slower than Kizaru, by a mile.
There's not much to downplay. In fact most of the OP dudes here aren't even being highly critical about the gap between them. If you get really technical about it..
The gap is the following: A mere serious slap from base Garp (or anybody else here) to Minato's face would wring Minato's neck and kill him.
A fodder in OP possess a better body than most of the Hokage here.
Aokiji has durability negation with his ice. Akainu as well to an extent, that's just very basic hax though, some might argue it's not even hax, nothing on the level of illusions and shit like that that Naruto has.
I'd personally never let them be intangible if i created a matchup like this. It has nothing to even do with their fighting abilities, they wouldn't be hit by nature of their devil fruit which is just unfair as fuck. Any fodder could get a logia and be intangible.
The OP team seem to have an advantage in speed. Minato is much slower than Kizaru, by a mile.
There's not much to downplay. In fact most of the OP dudes here aren't even being highly critical about the gap between them. If you get really technical about it..
The gap is the following: A mere serious slap from base Garp (or anybody else here) to Minato's face would wring Minato's neck and kill him.
A fodder in OP possess a better body than most of the Hokage here.
Hax can only get you so far if you're far inferior in speed etc. I think it's the top and god tiers of Naruto who are established to be well above anything in One Piece. Madara is easily beyond the Admirals, by a mile, but not the hokage right ? Idk i'm not Naruto expert.
That's fine with me, but the OP would also have to clarify the level of chakra control the Admirals possess, and to what extent is he gonna limit their usage of the chakra control. Since the only way to counter Genjutsu is due to chakra control... I highly doubt the OP wants to get deep.
Hax can only get you so far if you're far inferior in speed etc. I think it's the top and god tiers of Naruto who are established to be well above anything in One Piece. Madara is easily beyond the Admirals, by a mile, but not the hokage right ? Idk i'm not Naruto expert.
That's fine with me, but the OP would also have to clarify the level of chakra control the Admirals possess, and to what extent is he gonna limit their usage of the chakra control. Since the only way to counter Genjutsu is due to chakra control... I highly doubt the OP wants to get deep.
Not sure what you mean by "no??" in reference to that post being a reply to mine (just a bit confused ahah).
But see you're being very vague. You keep mentioning "hax" but don't point out a specific hax for when they'll be pushed into their 1v1s.
- What is Tsunade gonna do when Kuzan freezes her instantly, then kills her off?
- What is Minato gonna do when Kizaru blitzes him? Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt that Minato could react to Kizaru's top speed without possessing great level of CoO and sheer overpowering battle instincts of OP verse characters.. Is he just gonna keep running away with his FTG? Since the moment he decides to attack, he'll be killed by something as simple as an CoA imbued Elbow to the face.
- What is Hiruzen going to do when Sengoku hits him with the Shockwaves? His only hax, RDS isn't gonna work without him getting close.
- Tobirama, if given the same benefit of the doubt as Minato was given earlier, could run away from Garp with FTG and use his Edo Tensei attacks or do some high scale attacks, but none of that shit is gonna do anything to Garp who can either easily dodge it or counter it with haki blasts. And the moment he decides to attack personally himself, it's GG.
- Hashirama, could put up a decent fight thanks to his wood clone hax, something that requires the Sharingan to counter, against Sakazuki. Then with the Pollen world, and eventually making it a decent fight with his 1000-hand buddha. But who's to say he can even handle the constant rampage of giant Magma fists coming at him, where his wood defenses will be useless.
Only thing you mention is genjutsu, but the only genjutsu here shown is by the brothers, which requires hand seals (i'm sure they might possess other genjutsus as well due to the vast knowledge Tobirama, Hiruzen, Hashirama had regarding techniques). But still it's not like it's an EMS or Sharingan jutsu where a look in the eye and bam they're caught.
Hax can only get you so far if you're far inferior in speed etc. I think it's the top and god tiers of Naruto who are established to be well above anything in One Piece. Madara is easily beyond the Admirals, by a mile, but not the hokage right ? Idk i'm not Naruto expert.
Depends on which Madara you're talking about. The one who absorbed the 10-tails or the normal Madara? If it's the former, then yes miles above the Admirals. If it's the latter then nope, he's a fodder to the admirals.
The gap between Naruto verses Top Tiers & GOD Tiers is too high. Now if OP top tiers push the God Tiers of OP into a physical engagement of Mano e Mano, then OP top tiers would come out on top without a doubt. But issue is it'd never come to that unless there's huge plot/story mechanism involved like in the case of 10-tails jin Madara vs Gai.
Depends on which Madara you're talking about. The one who absorbed the 10-tails or the normal Madara? If it's the former, then yes miles above the Admirals. If it's the latter then nope, he's a fodder to the admirals.
The gap between Naruto verses Top Tiers & GOD Tiers is too high. Now if OP top tiers push the God Tiers of OP into a physical engagement of Mano e Mano, then OP top tiers would come out on top without a doubt. But issue is it'd never come to that unless there's huge plot/story mechanism involved like in the case of 10-tails jin Madara vs Gai.
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