[FNZ] Role Madness Final Fantasy XVI Mafia - Game Thread

[SirDante]

So now that we're back on the whole 4 man Mafia is more likely than kill-less serial.

How am I mafia, since I was all in on the day 1 and 2 scum lynches, and didn't lead either of the day 3 or 4 wagons on town? How does that make sense?

yeah... not scummy. im that confident from my PoV. my vote stays. ur flailing here.

u saw that I sused flower a bit last EoD because serial keeping DV alive this long is weird. normally serials kills DV sooner because DV can solo stop a serial victory. i thought for a sec maybe flower can be serial

think u tried to leverage that by having me side with u on flower today but it didnt work out

Alright let's work this one out then bud. Let's really hash it.

So am I, kill-less serial to you?
Or am I mafia member #4, who bussed two of his members blind day 1 and 2?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

There is no such thing as confirming by meta. Please stop posting absolute nonsense.

You're not confirmed. And haven't ever been confirmed. The strongest piece of evidence in your favor. Is that mechanically, it is very very strong to put a role harvesting ability in a large Mafia block. That is your claim to fame.

anyone that knows me just knows this is never ever a board i leave myself with as scum

like take a look at this

flower
mich
ratchets sensei

literally doom for me :heston

2 women, one of which hates my gut (flower). she is so bad faith actor i usually eliminate her as soon as i can because shes unlynchable as town due to her ate bullshit and she has never played a game without susing me.

and the other is mich who had clearly displayed that she suses me yesterday if the serial is not psychic

anyone who knows me and pretends that this is a board i leave my self with in lylo is just being disgenuous. you dont know my meta. flower and mich should


i could have easily just killed mich. shes confirmed by both flower and fuji. id have atleast kept an ally in fuji

id have for sure killed flower n1 or n2 this game. got her vote power and eliminated an active town voice

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

in lylo u want to leave allies alive. i have none rn. thats not how i play lylo. u dont wifom in lylo. not with players like flower. in not dumb

 

[SirDante]

anyone that knows me just knows this is never ever a board i leave myself with as scum

like take a look at this

flower
mich
ratchets sensei

literally doom for me :heston

2 women, one of which hates my gut (flower). she is so bad faith actor i usually eliminate her as soon as i can because shes unlynchable as town due to her ate bullshit and she has never played a game without susing me.

and the other is mich who had clearly displayed that she suses me yesterday if the serial is not psychic

anyone who knows me and pretends that this is a board i leave my self with in lylo is just being disgenuous. you dont know my meta. flower and mich should


i could have easily just killed mich. shes confirmed by both flower and fuji. id have atleast kept an ally in fuji

id have for sure killed flower n1 or n2 this game. got her vote power and eliminated an active town voice

This entire post, is WIFOM bullshit. The worst kind of assumption checker move garbage. Completely ignoring the bits of information we can actually confirm and basically boils down to, "Nu uh, I wouldn't do that. I know, because I'm me."

in lylo u want to leave allies alive. i have none rn. thats not how i play lylo. u dont wifom in lylo. not with players like flower. in not dumb

And I do? Once again, you're completely failing to see anything past your own viewpoint. And I can only hope Flower and Michelle acknowledge that your position and push for Flower to end day phase so quickly earlier is the most insanely scum reading thing.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

So now that we're back on the whole 4 man Mafia is more likely than kill-less serial.

How am I mafia, since I was all in on the day 1 and 2 scum lynches, and didn't lead either of the day 3 or 4 wagons on town? How does that make sense?

Alright let's work this one out then bud. Let's really hash it.

So am I, kill-less serial to you?
Or am I mafia member #4, who bussed two of his members blind day 1 and 2?

why r u arguing this kill-less angle. just makes u more scummier. serial could have easily shot the same people mafia did or mafia cud have failed a kill on serial

you sused rednight and yoho, and u seemed like a safe mafia kill. they cud have shot u and failed a kill on you because u have a bulletproof

luka was a confirmed tracker after rednight flipped. its possible both mafia and serial shot him if the watson kill was dont by town vig

ur both discrediting the vig kill accountability and want to sell 4 mafia world to bring mich back to poe. i can see exactly what ur doing

 

[SirDante]

why r u arguing this kill-less angle. just makes u more scummier. serial could have easily shot the same people mafia did or mafia cud have failed a kill on serial

you sused rednight and yoho, and u seemed like a safe mafia kill. they cud have shot u and failed a kill on you because u have a bulletproof

luka was a confirmed tracker after rednight flipped. its possible both mafia and serial shot him if the watson kill was dont by town vig

ur both discrediting the vig kill accountability and want to sell 4 mafia world to bring mich back to poe. i can see exactly what ur doing

Your counter argument is,
The Mafia and serial shot the same person every night.
Do we even want to look at what the chances of that is?
Sure lets look.

12 players going into Night 1 - Mafia only has 9 targets, because 3 of which would be their own members.
So even just looking at Night 1, Serial has a 1/11 target, and scum has 1/9 and they have to pick the same person LOL.
This would have to keep happening, every night LOL.

Are you actually fucking serious?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

This entire post, is WIFOM bullshit. The worst kind of assumption checker move garbage. Completely ignoring the bits of information we can actually confirm and basically boils down to, "Nu uh, I wouldn't do that. I know, because I'm me."

And I do? Once again, you're completely failing to see anything past your own viewpoint. And I can only hope Flower and Michelle acknowledge that your position and push for Flower to end day phase so quickly earlier is the most insanely scum reading thing.

thats literally how games get solved tho. if things dont make sense for ppl to do. occam razor says they likely are what u expect them to be.

i dont expect mafia mich to kill fuji here. i dont expect mafia flower to keep me alive this long

like why wud they do that. why play the game in hard difficulty when they can play easier mode

people dont change as often as they think. meta is something very hard to beeak in games..if this is a break through game where flower and mich decide to unleash some next level technology on us yah im down to just lose to it.

the easiest answer is more often than not the right one. ive lost too many games by overthinking not gonna do that here

ill just wait for mich to give her thoughts but my vote is pretty set in stone. u r just wasting ur time typing to me

 

[SirDante]

thats literally how games get solved tho. if things dont make sense for ppl to do. occam razor says they likely are what u expect them to be.

i dont expect mafia mich to kill fuji here. i dont expect mafia flower to keep me alive this long

like why wud they do that. why play the game in hard difficulty when they can play easier mode

people dont change as often as they think. meta is something very hard to beeak in games..if this is a break through game where flower and mich decide to unleash some next level technology on us yah im down to just lose to it.

the easiest answer is more often than not the right one. ive lost too many games by overthinking not gonna do that here

ill just wait for mich to give her thoughts but my vote is pretty set in stone. u r just wasting ur time typing to me

This is actually the only part of your post that I've agreed with, "u r just wasting ur time typing to me"
God you're so right. You are so so so right. But the point of this is to point out the massive holes in your nonsense so that maybe Michelle and Flower also sees how incredibly full of shit you are.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Your counter argument is,
The Mafia and serial shot the same person every night.
Do we even want to look at what the chances of that is?
Sure lets look.

12 players going into Night 1 - Mafia only has 9 targets, because 3 of which would be their own members.
So even just looking at Night 1, Serial has a 1/11 target, and scum has 1/9 and they have to pick the same person LOL.
This would have to keep happening, every night LOL.

Are you actually fucking serious?

its not just math. there is more nuance to it

n1 mafia kill melkor
n1 serial kill melkor or shoots the target mango was protecting. i think serial has some unstoppability so the first option makes more sense

n2 serial and mafia kill luka (hes confirmed tracker and threat to both). or serial kill luka and mafia fail a kill on you (the serial). or one of serial/mafia kills watson with psychic for ??? reasons

n3 fuji redirected stuff from him to mango. this nights the most confusing one. did both serial and mafia shoot fuji or did serial directly shoot mango. or did mafia shoot you in this night? idk

like there are more nuance to it than yeah just do a probability. ur so disingenuous in your argument. mafia and serial do not just roll a dice for their kills like u make it seem to be. ur ignoring all the nuance behind the kill choices

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

if mich is mafia then seriously just whatever. a team of 4 is seriously fucked

only way to reconcile it is town has a an original double voter and my role that can also become a second double voter after the first one dies but even that is a stretch

like @Flower do u think ratchet actually does this?

 

[SirDante]

its not just math. there is more nuance to it

n1 mafia kill melkor
n1 serial kill melkor or shoots the target mango was protecting. i think serial has some unstoppability so the first option makes more sense

n2 serial and mafia kill luka (hes confirmed tracker and threat to both). or serial kill luka and mafia fail a kill on you (the serial). or one of serial/mafia kills watson with psychic for ??? reasons

n3 fuji redirected stuff from him to mango. this nights the most confusing one. did both serial and mafia shoot fuji or did serial directly shoot mango. or did mafia shoot you in this night? idk

like there are more nuance to it than yeah just do a probability. ur so disingenuous in your argument. mafia and serial do not just roll a dice for their kills like u make it seem to be. ur ignoring all the nuance behind the kill choices

This is Finalbeta tier math.

You cited Occom's razor already, and then instantly came up with a situation which is not only incredibly less likely, but incredibly more complicated than just, there's a 4th Mafia member. Because you cannot explain how I am the 4th Mafia member. Lol

 

[SirDante]

if mich is mafia then seriously just whatever. a team of 4 is seriously fucked

only way to reconcile it is town has a an original double voter and my role that can also become a second double voter after the first one dies but even that is a stretch

like @Flower do u think ratchet actually does this?

If Michelle is mafia then everything is fine, its completely Fuji's fault and we blame him and go home.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

This is Finalbeta tier math.

You cited Occom's razor already, and then instantly came up with a situation which is not only incredibly less likely, but incredibly more complicated than just, there's a 4th Mafia member. Because you cannot explain how I am the 4th Mafia member. Lol

looool u know the legend finalbeta ahaha

that guys popular all across the galaxy

this post made me laugh

 

[SirDante]

Also I really love how you keep saying I'm the one bringing Michelle back into play, but I've never said that. That has been your angle this entire time. @Emil
I'm quite sure Michelle is town.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

@Flower help me out here hes doing ratchet things and taking over my mind lol

 

[SirDante]

looool u know the legend finalbeta ahaha

that guys popular all across the galaxy

this post made me laugh

Honestly man, at this point. I really hope you're scum. Because that would mean that you played a very great game all the way to the end down two members from the kick off. And I can continue to respect you and play here.

If you're town, that is not the case. :/

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Also I really love how you keep saying I'm the one bringing Michelle back into play, but I've never said that. That has been your angle this entire time. @Emil
I'm quite sure Michelle is town.

nice so my vote just sticks to you. ur solve is mafia is a team of 4 and im aligned with them. read day 1 see who initiated the suspicion on mango that mich later on just agreed with

i caught him pretty early for the voting psychic cuz shes a woman thing

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Honestly man, at this point. I really hope you're scum. Because that would mean that you played a very great game all the way to the end down two members from the kick off. And I can continue to respect you and play here.

If you're town, that is not the case. :/

i see where he gets that from

 

[SirDante]

nice so my vote just sticks to you. ur solve is mafia is a team of 4 and im aligned with them. read day 1 see who initiated the suspicion on mango that mich later on just agreed with

i caught him pretty early for the voting psychic cuz shes a woman thing

We can go back and read you defend Red Night too if you'd like.

i see where he gets that from

Is this a Ratchet reference?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

i hope u stay and even join us on OLF, where we play more competitive games there. this site is mostly for fun matches