[FNZ] Role Madness Final Fantasy XVI Mafia - Game Thread

[SirDante]

You can't make me flavour solve Dante, besides if Ekko is the 4th mafia then town never had a balanced game starr.

We fundamentally disagree with what a flavor solve is. I understand.

 

[SirDante]

We've just played a game with a SK who never killed until Mafia was wiped and had the option to defend instead of kill. Ratchet played that, too. Sorry, but lack of kills is not an argument for me.

I would probably look at the context of that setup to see how that all fit into the theorycrafting. But that's using the meta of another game, hosted by not this host, to justify a pretty niche example. Which I don't believe is very useful to us.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

re: flavor angle, again id have been given a fake claim if clive was a scum role and the game was just solvable by yeeting clive and his friends

this is beyond level 1 from you

the other mafia seems to have fakes as they claimed them, and i claimed my flavor after 2 of them died, it's just what my role is. could have easily fake claimed to remove the flavor angle entirely and not tie myself with the flipped mafia flavorwise

 

[Flower]

I would probably look at the context of that setup to see how that all fit into the theorycrafting. But that's using the meta of another game, hosted by not this host, to justify a pretty niche example. Which I don't believe is very useful to us.

But it is. Ratchet always makes special SK roles. In a game I hosted with him he made a SK who had to mark players and could not directly kill. In another game I was a Town Vig who would have turned SK after 3 misfires. It's well within his host meta.

 

[SirDante]

But it is. Ratchet always makes special SK roles. In a game I hosted with him he made a SK who had to mark players and could not directly kill. In another game I was a Town Vig who would have turned SK after 3 misfires. It's well within his host meta.

Then wouldn't it make more sense that the SK role is Emil? With the win condition of absorbing all the Dominators?

 

[SirDante]

I also don't know why collectively the remaining players think that a 4 man Mafia is absurd, when I've already shown the 3 mislynch math works for a 4 man Mafia in a 13 man.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

great, another angle lol

if thats the case why not yeet flower with you today? or yeet her any time in the game lol. shes the first claimed dominant with a great role to absorb

why not accept the no lynch and then yeet flower at night to win?

make it make sense

 

[Flower]

Again, the lack of kill angle does nothing for me. If you think there's 4 scum for different reasons I'm all ears. But I can't find a single Mafia case for any of the players alive. Both you and Ekko would have had to commit to hard bussing right out the gate. I can't see you doing that in a new environment, it does not fit Ekko's scum MO of protecting his team, Michelle pushed Mango when she didn't have to.

Nah fam. No more Mafia here.

 

[Flower]

Then wouldn't it make more sense that the SK role is Emil? With the win condition of absorbing all the Dominators?

Then he could have voted No Lynch with me earlier, killed me and won?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I also don't know why collectively the remaining players think that a 4 man Mafia is absurd, when I've already shown the 3 mislynch math works for a 4 man Mafia in a 13 man.

9-4

mislynch + kill flower

7-4

mislynch + kill any townie + activate the double vote

5-4, with me have 2x vote power, mafia can just hammer the yeet by themselves and win

this is how u do math

 

[SirDante]

Then he could have voted No Lynch with me earlier, killed me and won?

Honestly, I don't think he's that smart.

 

[SirDante]

Again, the lack of kill angle does nothing for me. If you think there's 4 scum for different reasons I'm all ears. But I can't find a single Mafia case for any of the players alive. Both you and Ekko would have had to commit to hard bussing right out the gate. I can't see you doing that in a new environment, it does not fit Ekko's scum MO of protecting his team, Michelle pushed Mango when she didn't have to.

Nah fam. No more Mafia here.

At this point we're far too far apart on outside game knowledge with different meta experiences. We should just end this one so I can add several amazing quotes to my sig.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

now whose personally insulting lol

 

[SirDante]

now whose personally insulting lol

As I said, you make us both worse. I already extended an olive branch about this stuff, and you told me to go fuck myself. So I'm happy with to retain the status quo as it is.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

all angles fail

last resort: ekko is not that smart to do this

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

As I said, you make us both worse. I already extended an olive branch about this stuff, and you told me to go fuck myself. So I'm happy with to retain the status quo as it is.

know what, can u actually show me one quote where i insulted you?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

i also didnt tell u to go fk urself. i said im not interested in this discussion now and we can pick it up post game

i disagree that i was insulting you, i think i mocked yes, but not insulted

 

[SirDante]

know what, can u actually show me one quote where i insulted you?

You already said you weren't interested in this til post game. So if you actually want to have that breakdown during postgame that is fine.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

You already said you weren't interested in this til post game. So if you actually want to have that breakdown during postgame that is fine.

excellent

im willing to apologize for anything you think is out of line, my intention wud never be to insult and paint a bad image of the site

 

[SirDante]

i also didnt tell u to go fk urself. i said im not interested in this discussion now and we can pick it up post game

i disagree that i was insulting you, i think i mocked yes, but not insulted

Oh okay, so you already know. You're just going to call it mocking instead. Ok. No point then.