Powers & Abilities Maybe this is a hot take but Zoro has better CoO than Sanji. If anyone can post Sanji CoO feats that are better than Zoros I’ll concede.

[Peroroncino]

That’s what they’re good at . Not saying that they’re experts in it . You guys saw specialize and creamed your pants . Reading comprehension . I could specialize in American football techniques compared to you but I can still be a shit football player .

yeah so its not a stretch to say sanji is better at it than zoro

 

[DonWick]

Bait

Every Zoro or Sanji thread isn’t bait.

 

[matt245]

Them Sanji stans wank the sbs where it's stated that Sanji specializes in CoO (even though said sbs called Luffy the CoC specialist despite the fact that Zoro, the CoA specialist, Awakened both CoC and ACoC at the same time and in less time than Luffy). That and Katakuri dodging some... Jelly beams? To this day, I don't understand why that's shit impressive. Mfs acting like Sanji dodged the fastest attack in the verse and not some candy.

 

[JoNdule]

Zoro has better combat CoO feats than Sanji, yeah.

Sanji’s good stuff is sensing where women are. Is dodging Katakuri’s jelly bean the last time he actually used it to dodge an attack?

Sanji did something luffy only replicated when he started progressing his CoO vs Katakuri
Feeling the aura and dodging without seeing where the attack is from

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Sanji was the furthest away from Luffy, heavily injured and sleeping, and he still sensed Luffy first before the others >>>>> Zoro waking up from a peaceful nap with job to protect ship

Clownwick strikes again

"Zoro coo is better "

Sanji was unconscious and sleeping and yet the first to sense Luffy while being thr furthest away

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Them Sanji stans wank the sbs where it's stated that Sanji specializes in CoO (even though said sbs called Luffy the CoC specialist despite the fact that Zoro, the CoA specialist, Awakened both CoC and ACoC at the same time and in less time than Luffy). That and Katakuri dodging some... Jelly beams? To this day, I don't understand why that's shit impressive. Mfs acting like Sanji dodged the fastest attack in the verse and not some candy.

"Less time than Luffy" who mastered a whole 1 or 2 years before Pinzoro being 1 or 2 years younger.

 

[JoNdule]

Every Zoro or Sanji thread isn’t bait.

You are pathetic

Get a life

 

[matt245]

"Less time than Luffy" who mastered a whole 1 or 2 years before Pinzoro being 1 or 2 years younger.

Bro required 2 years of normal CoC usage and getting slammed by 2 ACoC in the face to unlock it. Zoro awakened CoC against Kaido and he also made it into ACoC right after.

Luffy: 2 years with the basic one + direct experience with ACoC attacks to unlock ACoC.

Zoro: No previous experience with CoC, no need to get hit by ACoC attacks to realize it and roughly 1 hour at best from unlocking Basic CoC to evolving it

 

[grey matter]

IMO Zoro has better reflexive type observation haki, Sanji has better sensory observation haki

Yes, yes it does.

I know you're not interested in a honest exchange and this is all agenda but I'll break it down anyway.

- What exactly does it mean to attack with Future Sight?
Using future sight, Katakuri he can predict Sanji's actions and where his head will be. A Future Sight user can adjust his attack to hit the target no matter how he tries to dodge, since he knows his intentions and everything. As long as his speed, reaction speed, and stamina can keep up.

- This is true for melee attacks, but what about ranged attacks, like throwing a jelly bean?
Katakuri predicts where Sanji's head will be 5 seconds from now, so he throws a jelly bean there. Once the jelly bean leaves his fingers, the attack is out of his control and Katakuri can no longer adapt the attack to Sanji's position.

- What is CoO?
Every user of CoO can predict their opponents moves and aim. Every user sees somewhat into the future, the only difference with FS is that they see little into it, and some of them are only capable of reading intentions of seeing auras.
However, we had:

• Satori on Skypiea, using CoO, knew Luffy was about to stretch his body before he knew about his ability and commented on it.
• Enel, who didn't have FS, could dodge anything that came from Luffy as long as the attack wasn't random.
• Rayleigh showcased basic CoO as a tool to predict the opponents moves.
• Luffy, right after learning basic CoO, showcased it by effortlessly dodging the Pacifistas' lasers with minium movement.
• etc, etc, etc

- So what happens if the victim of a ranged FS attack, like Sanji in this case, has basic CoO?
Once the jellybean has left Katakuri's hand, the attack is set, Katakuri's FS stops mattering. On the other hand, the victim, Sanji in this case, can still use CoO to predict the attack just like Luffy with the Pacifistas' lasers. Knowning where the attack will land, Sanji moves his head lightly out of the way... and dodges. Katakuri can't do anything about it.


Basic CoO.

Base Luffy pre future sight was stressing out Katakuri by dodging. Kills the entire argument really.

The moment a FS acts upon the future he saw, the future gets tampered, especially if the opponent is fast enough to change course

In Luffy vs Katakuri, future sight was shown especially broken only in the ability to dodge attacks, when Katakuri combined that with his logia esque body. While Luffy could react to and dodge his attacks very well

 

[Poorsalino Cooker]

WISTA!

 

[Roronoa-sama]

arabasta zoro has better coo than current sanjino

 

[Buggy D Clown]

oda in an sbs
Sanji: CoO Zoro: CoA Luffy: CoC
I dont know why you even care, CoO is inconsistent af anyway, and it mostly brings anti feats to the one using it

All that tells us is that Sanji's CoO > Sanji's CoA. It means (almost*)nothing when compared to someone else's haki.

 

[Geo]

It was fully established when Zoro easily sidestepped Lucci's fastest attack

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

It was fully established when Zoro easily sidestepped Lucci's fastest attack

Btw we already had a thread where Zfolks were sating that lucci moves faster / as fast as Kizaru. Who moves at the speed of light

 

[Roronoa-sama]

All that tells us is that Sanji's CoO > Sanji's CoA. It means (almost*)nothing when compared to someone else's haki.

really?

 

[Album]

Bro required 2 years of normal CoC usage and getting slammed by 2 ACoC in the face to unlock it. Zoro awakened CoC against Kaido and he also made it into ACoC right after.


Zoro: No previous experience with CoC, no need to get hit by ACoC attacks to realize it and roughly 1 hour at best from unlocking Basic CoC to evolving it

first of all no zoro did use acoc against kaido ( acoc is just infusing your attack with coc and kaido himself called it out for acoc is the only thing that ever caused real damage to kaido)
and to be frank enma is basically a cheat sheet where it forced him with king to release everything for it which led to him using acoc ( and when zoro attacked kaido with asura he would have given everything he had left)
and I would say the nature of enma and it being a cheat sheet alongside coc being based on the strength of the user is why zoro's acoc isnt anywhere near luffy's

 

[L57]

Damn, can’t believe Zoro doesn’t have a hint of haki…

Zoro was out cold from the mink drug

 

[Buggy D Clown]

really?

Unfortunately I also need to point out to them that dodging a jelly bean thrown by a future sight user is the same as dodging a jelly bean thrown by a non future sight user.
@K!NG HARA$H!MA @BillSlipton

 

[matt245]

Unfortunately I also need to point out to them that dodging a jelly bean thrown by a future sight user is the same as dodging a jelly bean thrown by a non future sight user.
@K!NG HARA$H!MA @BillSlipton

Ain't no way. I thought that shooting a jelly beam from a FS user was something akin to dodging a light speed attack point blank

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Unfortunately I also need to point out to them that dodging a jelly bean thrown by a future sight user is the same as dodging a jelly bean thrown by a non future sight user.
@K!NG HARA$H!MA @BillSlipton

I also need to point out to them that hit a light laser, one time it's just luck and not he has a future sight

 

[kumae]

Am I the only one that feels like Zoro has better CoO than Sanji? This isn’t trolling or baiting I said it in a thread and the Sanji squad came after me. Zoro has multiple good CoO showings and Sanji doesn’t. His CoO feats are all gag related and situational therefore, useless.

Zoro was sleep and woke up to stop Kaku.
Saved Bonney and pinpointed her with CoO. Do you believe Zoro has better CoO than Sanji?

No you are not the only one
And let's be honest for once zoro has shown better CoO feats in dressrosa wano and egghead the other is a women radar aka simp coo and jellybean that's it
But comunity took too serious that sbs they think specialize=means better at
Like for them lanji is better than luffy at CoO eventhough he has FS lmao the iq level of our comunity