Powers & AbilitiesMaybe this is a hot take but Zoro has better CoO than Sanji. If anyone can post Sanji CoO feats that are better than Zoros I’ll concede.
This wasn't even up for debate. Zoro has always had better observation haki feats then him. Fought stronger people than him, which obviously leads to his haki getting stronger.
Dodging a jellybean, which is no different to dodging a bullet, using CoO is only impressive if you've never seen your boy use CoO before.
As for sensing those prostitutes, when luffy "couldn't". What happened next? His "top tier CoO" couldn't help him from getting fooled and trapped.
Zoro has superior haki & feats. Calling this bait & tagging fellow cyborg munchers isn't gonna change that
Sanji dodged a projectile being shot at him from a future site user, and the exact panel is used in a Vivre card databook with an explanation of future site under it.
how does ft sight factor in to making dodging something thrown at you impressive ? The jelly bean is no different from a bullet from a gun . He dodged something thrown at him while expecting an attack . That’s it that’s all .
It's more that dodging a laser is not an impressive feat at all, I have no idea why Lanji fans think this is a relevant feat. Heavily nerfed pre-TS, hakiless Zoro was able to do this from a point blank range
Zoro dodged and deflected an actual named attack from a far far stronger - like 1000x stronger - future sight user (aka Kaido) aimed at him with relative ease
Zoro whilst carrying Luffy on his back also dodged a named attack from Big Mom who is also 1000x stronger than Katakuri and his nameless jellybean attack
You all should know by know Haki is only useful for Sanji in terms of touching DF users.
He would never reach the height of Zoro and Luffy in terms of Haki.
Similarly Zoro and Luffy would never be able to cook as good as Sanji.
Yeah. Its just weird, and the arguments in this thread are really poor.
“Zoro woke up from Kaku- Okay but Sanii woke up from Luffys gear 5 which was much further away.
“Zoro dodged Lucci and caught his sword” again ok but Sanji dodges a future site user aiming mochi bullet at his head, and has dodged point blank bullet fire before, and laser beams multiple times.
“Zoro can sense peoples feelings” - Yes so can Sanji, he has done it multiple times with Pudding and Violet.
This thread is just weird behaviour. Zoro has never actually ever had a stand out CoO feat and Sanji has, yet theres a whole thread on here arguing that Zoro’s is better because he dodged a dude in a fight. Its completely ridiculous.
Sanji specifically focussed on his observation haki during the time-skip to avoid being molested by the okamas, Oda just doesnt go out of his way to Show Sanjis haki feats. We have yet to see him use black coating armament haki- yet simple marines can do it. Do you really think Sanji is unable to use it because Oda hasnt drawn it before?
Theres even a line in a Vivre card databook under a picture of Sanji that reads “By reading the movement of signs and emotions, you can grasp the surrounding situation and avoid danger. Some people see the future a little ahead due to extraordinary discipline.”
OP has also posted this to almost every online One Piece forum including reddit so they are looking for some weird Zoro validation or something.
That future sight user couldn't even see that his own sister was tag teaming luffy with him for 11hours.
That same future sight user got tricked by Ceasar clown and is now having a high diff fight with oven.
The sanji waking up bit makes zero sense since sanji wasn't sleeping lol. He was knocked out and that luffy was radiating with coc haki so every one who had basic observation haki could sense him. The same way lucci and zoro were sensing the haki of the gorosei while they were fighting.
Sanji focused his observation around drag queens and yet still managed to get played by women who layed out the plan to trick him lol. Thay directly means his ability to sense intent is poor. The same sanji has been around drag queens for 2 years but his observation haki couldn't help him in finding out that Kiku was a man. Yet zoros observation haki help him come to the conclusion that she was hiding something.
Dumb point. The reason why zoros observation haki is deemed better because:
His opponents are FASTER than sanjis opponents.
He is able to also use observation haki to sense objects that don't even have emotion of will to be sense. Eg swords and liquor. The only other person seen with this on the ship besides zoro is luffy.
Zoro is able to pinpoint and tell an exact person's intent based off of observation haki alone. Which is how he deduced that kiku was lying from jump. This is also why he was hesistant and attacked x drake because he sensed that xdrake was hiding something more from the strawhats (which he was)
There is no visible evidence that suggests sanji>zoro in terms of observation haki.
Punk hazard sanji sense the tears of tashigi, while zoro from a further distance sense vergo when vergo was fighting sanji.
Wano: sanji literally was tricked by his own observation haki because he sucks at being able to sense the intent of people. Which is why zoro sense that kiku was lying and with holding info while sanji didn't even pick up that kiku was a man.
Also in wano both luffy and zoro have sensed things that don't even have emotion or intent because they are inanimate objects (zoro sensing swords and liquor).
In wano sanji couldn't even sense queens location when queen was invisible. He had to see queen first attack the girl while queen was invisible in order to track him. Queen whom is slower than king was tagging sanji while zoro in the later part adjusted to king even in speed mode and was using observation haki to dodge and retaliate. Now show an example of sanji using observation haki to full on fight a person as power and as FAST as king
That future sight user couldn't even see that his own sister was tag teaming luffy with him for 11hours.
That same future sight user got tricked by Ceasar clown and is now having a high diff fight with oven.
The sanji waking up bit makes zero sense since sanji wasn't sleeping lol. He was knocked out and that luffy was radiating with coc haki so every one who had basic observation haki could sense him. The same way lucci and zoro were sensing the haki of the gorosei while they were fighting.
Sanji focused his observation around drag queens and yet still managed to get played by women who layed out the plan to trick him lol. Thay directly means his ability to sense intent is poor. The same sanji has been around drag queens for 2 years but his observation haki couldn't help him in finding out that Kiku was a man. Yet zoros observation haki help him come to the conclusion that she was hiding something.
Dumb point. The reason why zoros observation haki is deemed better because:
His opponents are FASTER than sanjis opponents.
He is able to also use observation haki to sense objects that don't even have emotion of will to be sense. Eg swords and liquor. The only other person seen with this on the ship besides zoro is luffy.
Zoro is able to pinpoint and tell an exact person's intent based off of observation haki alone. Which is how he deduced that kiku was lying from jump. This is also why he was hesistant and attacked x drake because he sensed that xdrake was hiding something more from the strawhats (which he was)
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There is no visible evidence that suggests sanji>zoro in terms of observation haki.
Punk hazard sanji sense the tears of tashigi, while zoro from a further distance sense vergo when vergo was fighting sanji.
Wano: sanji literally was tricked by his own observation haki because he sucks at being able to sense the intent of people. Which is why zoro sense that kiku was lying and with holding info while sanji didn't even pick up that kiku was a man.
Also in wano both luffy and zoro have sensed things that don't even have emotion or intent because they are inanimate objects (zoro sensing swords and liquor).
In wano sanji couldn't even sense queens location when queen was invisible. He had to see queen first attack the girl while queen was invisible in order to track him. Queen whom is slower than king was tagging sanji while zoro in the later part adjusted to king even in speed mode and was using observation haki to dodge and retaliate. Now show an example of sanji using observation haki to full on fight a person as power and as FAST as king
This post is so stupid im not even going to bother forming any sort of argument.
I was taught from a young age that theres no point trying to educate an idiot.
Zoro was aim-dodging, no different than Ussop and Brook dodging pacifista lasers, he positioned himself away from the line of fire slightly before it was fired
Sanji reacted to & blocked a laser AFTER it was fired, meaning in this instance he was literally moving at light speed
It is a concept in powerscaling that accounts for why characters are able to outmaneuver attacks many magnitudes higher in speed then they are
What Sanji did however, was actually lightspeed
Zoro was aim-dodging, no different than Ussop and Brook dodging pacifista lasers, he positioned himself away from the line of fire slightly before it was fired
Sanji reacted to & blocked a laser AFTER it was fired, meaning in this instance he was literally moving at light speed
Zoro was aim-dodging, no different than Ussop and Brook dodging pacifista lasers, he positioned himself away from the line of fire slightly before it was fired
Calling ppl delusional because they show better arguemnts= losing
Sanji fans got nothing
Oda saying his best haki is coo fooled people into thinking that his coo>zoro s
I dont blame oda for this bcs his fanbase can t read i mean we saw sanji fans level of reading.
When they said he speed blitzed zoro in egghead or when zoro was hitting his own swords and not clashing with kaido,bent king s beak or s shark lost his arm etc
Calling ppl delusional because they show better arguemnts= losing
Sanji fans got nothing
Oda saying his best haki is coo fooled people into thinking that his coo>zoro s
I dont blame oda for this bcs his fanbase can t read i mean we saw sanji fans level of reading.
When they said he speed blitzed zoro in egghead or when zoro was hitting his own swords and not clashing with kaido,bent king s beak or s shark lost his arm etc
On the right he s facing kuma
On the left his face is not facing kuma anymore
These the people we argue with
Sanji fans cant read panels and it just shows
Hands on the ground on the right, facing kuma head down with a laser coming directly at him is the same as hands off the ground turning away head up to dodge to you?
Your entire argument just got blown up in a single panel lol, its not a big deal happens to everyone, just avoid the thread for a couple of days and no one will notice
Sensing objects is factually way better than sensing women
Sanji s coo in fights is inexistent
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On the right he s facing kuma
On the left his face is not facing kuma anymore
These the people we argue with
Sanji fans cant read panels and it just shows
Hands on the ground on the right, facing kuma head down with a laser coming directly at him is the same as hands off the ground turning away head up to dodge to you?
He head and body is at a 40 degree angle away from Kuma.
He is hunched over on the right, he is hunched over on the left.
He frantically moved out of the way moments before it was fired, so did Brook, so did Ussop, as all laser-dodging "feats" in One Piece have been up until Sanji vs Kizaru
How Zoroafs who thinks Oda wrote actual lightspeed characters pre-TS willfully misinterpret it
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He head and body is at a 90 degree angle away from Kuma, his arms are in the same position, dangling forward.
He frantically moved out of the way moments before it was fired, so did Brook, so did Ussop, as all laser-dodging "feats" in One Piece have been up until Sanji vs Kizaru
What are you even waffling about blud?
Zoro on the right panel is on his knees looking down
The left panel he goes to the side on his feet ,his head is not facing kuma anymore
How its the same pose
What are you even waffling about blud?
Zoro on the right panel is on his knees looking down
The left panel he goes to the side ,his head is not facing kuma anymore
How its the same pose
It's called prespective, Oda is showing the same attack from a variety of angles like he does in many panels
If Zoro did dodge it after it was fired it meant he scurried his body at light-speed, or that the lasers themselves are not light-speed, either option being impossible and entails many contradictions later in the story.
It's aim-dodging. Simple as that.
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Either way @L57@Oliver it doesn't matter, Zoro lost the poll despite Zorofans permeating the forum-majority; I suppose even his average fan his agenda limits and will admit 1+1 being 2 once in a while. Lol
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