Future Events The strongest swordsman in history vs the strongest swordsman of today

[HA001]

Nesujuro > Fujitora >~ peak Shiryu ? Mihawk

What does world strongest swordsman mean noodle

 

[Foul Legacy]

Nesujuro > Fujitora >~ peak Shiryu ? Mihawk>>>> Katakuri

There fixed it for you

 

[trav]

Nusjuros hybrid does not even hide his dumb face.
Whats the point?

He could have been a really cool wendigo-like creature.
Instead we get a Thriller-Bark-like horse-human abomination that relies on hax to stay relevant.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Strongest swordsman in history and strongest swordsman of today are one and the same person - Hawkeyes Dracule.
A swordsman incapable of forging his sword into the strongest weapon in the world doesn't stand a chance.

Venus is strong, but he is not even top 3 of all times. Zoro>Mihawk>Ryuma>Shiryu>Venus.
And that is being generous as Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks and Rocks could be stronger than Venus.

get shiryu past brooke lol

 

[The White Crane]

I think this could possibly be the angle Oda takes with Nusjuro vs Zoro

Mihawk is part of Cross Guild, meaning Zoro needs to beat him so that Luffy can become PK. Only after that will Luffy take on the WG.

So what will Zoro vs Nusjuro decide then?

There are many avenues Oda could take on them and I have explored those in other threads. But this is one.

Nusjuro is an immortal. He has likely lived hundreds of years. Yet not many people seem to know about the gorosei. Them being immortal doesn’t seem to be public knowledge. Apart from Lucci, nobody on egghead was even able to recognize the gorosei in their transformed state.

What if Nusjuro was the WSSM of the void century? Then the WG was established, Nusjuro ascended to godhood, and in that moment he basically left his title behind.

Time moved on and his feats were forgotten. Few people knew of Nusjuro or his strength, for Nusjuro rarely descended to the surface to fight.

As such new WSSM came and went. People like Ryuma, Xebec, Roger, and Mihawk. But none actually fought Nusjuro.

Basically I think Zoro vs Nusjuro will be a test to establish where Zoro ranks amongst the different WSSM. Is he just the strongest of his time period? Like Xebec or Roger were? Or is he the strongest of all time? That latter question can only be answered by defeating someone like Nusjuro. An immortal who has lived through many lifetimes.

Does this make Mihawk a fraud? In a way. Similar to how Zoro was a frog in a small pond when he was in East blue, so too was Mihawk. He was the strongest on the surface world, but ultimately he never fought Nusjuro.

Defeating Mihawk cannot be a greater feat than beating Nusjuro. Mihawk is a middle aged man, Nusjuro is an immortal. Hence beating Mihawk can only scale Zoro as the strongest swordsman of his time period.

It can never scale Zoro beyond the great swordsmen of the past. Men like Roger, Xebec, and Ryuma. Only by defeating one like Nusjuro, who watched as those greats came and went and remained undefeated throughout these years, can Zoro establish himself as the greatest swordsman in history.

2024 and this dude still believes Lolda has the balls to write Luffy'a crewmember vs a Gorosei. Dude must have skipped Wano.

 

[Jija]

Obviously Zoan as only they can be fed to weapons.
Awakening of his current DF counters Zoro's firepower because it makes all the firepower useless, if it ends up formless Nothingness.
He needs something to counter Zoro's overwhelming style, to beat him in CQC.
If I had to guess, it is Orochi's mythical Zoan because he didn't show nearly anything from it.
Which means Raiu turns into 8-headed hydra sword and competes with Zoro's 9-sword style.

How do you think zoro will defeat shiryu? I think that he need to overpower his strongest attack to upgrade his ap. He still doesn't have sky split level acoc and complete mastery of ashura. Or do you think he will receive several powerups against mihawk or he will face other oponents that would make him stronger?

 

[HA001]

How do you think zoro will defeat shiryu? I think that he need to overpower his strongest attack to upgrade his ap. He still doesn't have sky split level acoc and complete mastery of ashura. Or do you think he will receive several powerups against mihawk or he will face other oponents that would make him stronger?

How can one guy split the sky ?
His ap doesn't need any boosts

 

[Foul Legacy]

How do you think zoro will defeat shiryu? I think that he need to overpower his strongest attack to upgrade his ap. He still doesn't have sky split level acoc and complete mastery of ashura. Or do you think he will receive several powerups against mihawk or he will face other oponents that would make him stronger?

It will Be hax battle bud.
Like Pica. Zoro just need to figure out where shiryu is.... Zoro is long past this pathetic level of shiryu AP.

 

[Jija]

How can one guy split the sky ?
His ap doesn't need any boosts

He need ap boost. He can achieve top tier ap only in koh. He need that ap without emmiting more then his regular haki output

 

[Foul Legacy]

He need ap boost. He can achieve top tier ap only in koh. He need that ap without emmiting more then his regular haki output

Zoro has better AP output than Luffy.
Zoro already achieved top tier in rooftop with Ryou.
He already has that bud. In Wano zoro had a tike bomb ticking over his head due to Mink medicine.

 

[Jija]

It will Be hax battle bud.
Like Pica. Zoro just need to figure out where shiryu is.... Zoro is long past this pathetic level of shiryu AP.

He still can not feed enma enough without koh. And he still can not use ashura whenever he wants. Mihawk would overpower him

 

[Herrera95]

Strongest of history is Ryuuma. Not a joke like Nusjuro. Ryuuma is the whole reason WG is not taking Wano. Gorosei, Imu, Holy Knight, Admirals. Everything failed against him.

 

[HA001]

He need ap boost. He can achieve top tier ap only in koh. He need that ap without emmiting more then his regular haki output

He had kaido dodging from his coa
And scarred him pre power up

His ap does not need any boost for anyone that's not mihawk

 

[Jija]

Zoro has better AP output than Luffy.
Zoro already achieved top tier in rooftop with Ryou.
He already has that bud. In Wano zoro had a tike bomb ticking over his head due to Mink medicine.

It doesn't matter if he stronger then luffy or not. He still didn't achieve his peak. He create this whole koh because he is weaker then oden. Only in koh his haki become as strong as oden.

 

[Foul Legacy]

He still can not feed enma enough without koh. And he still can not use ashura whenever he wants. Mihawk would overpower him

Not even Once In egghead Enma has over reacted. ENMA IS tamed now.
It's not like zoro cannot use Ashura whenever he wants.
Oda doesn't let him dish out something that OP.
No one survives that bud.
1 HP , Exhausted , 30 Broken bones is when Oda allowed zoro to use it and he still managed to pull of something onlt top tier with AdCoC cN do.

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It doesn't matter if he stronger then luffy or not. He still didn't achieve his peak. He create this whole koh because he is weaker then oden. Only in koh his haki become as strong as oden.

His peak is Black Blade not KoH. Zoro already Mastered KoH.
Not even once Enma has reacted in egghead , It's completely tammed now. Zoro surpassed Oden on rooftop only , AdCoC is superior to Oden and add in KoH and Ashura, Oden is fucked.
" only in koh his haki become as strong as oden " .
Why would KoH make Zoro weaker? Zoro alrrady surpassed Oden AP on Rooftop.

 

[Jija]

He had kaido dodging from his coa
And scarred him pre power up

His ap does not need any boost for anyone that's not mihawk

Well that's why i'm asking nik how many powerups he would receive during fight against mihawk. I doubt it will be more then one

 

[Foul Legacy]

Well that's why i'm asking nik how many powerups he would receive during fight against mihawk. I doubt it will be more then one

It will black blade... multiple Black blade.
All zoro three swords will Black.
AP wise Zoro already matched Top tiers... and
KoH DD is just Toragiri version of KoH.
3000 worlds or Ashura with KoH is out of the world AP.

 

[Jija]

Not even once Enma has reacted in egghead , It's completely tammed now. Zoro surpassed Oden on rooftop only , AdCoC is superior to Oden and add in KoH and Ashura, Oden is fucked.
" only in koh his haki become as strong as oden " .
Why would KoH make Zoro weaker? Zoro alrrady surpassed Oden AP on Rooftop.

If he really surpassed oden's haki this whole situation with enma would't exist at all. But it still exist. In chapter 1033 he says that oden easily wield enma, when zoro need to go all out with his haki.

 

[Foul Legacy]

If he really surpassed oden's haki this whole situation with enma would't exist at all. But it still exist. In chapter 1033 he says that oden easily wield enma, when zoro need to go all out with his haki.

Bro did you even read what I said?

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Bro did you even read what I said?

Zoro without Enma Unleash Surpassed Oden with Ashura.
KoH is a different style which didn't even Oden had.
Oden isn't reacting anymore and zoro Developed a Style over Enma already.
He has already surpassed oden

 

[BestGen]

Not even Once In egghead Enma has over reacted. ENMA IS tamed now.
It's not like zoro cannot use Ashura whenever he wants.
Oda doesn't let him dish out something that OP.
No one survives that bud.
1 HP , Exhausted , 30 Broken bones is when Oda allowed zoro to use it and he still managed to pull of something onlt top tier with AdCoC cN do.

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His peak is Black Blade not KoH. Zoro already Mastered KoH.
Not even once Enma has reacted in egghead , It's completely tammed now. Zoro surpassed Oden on rooftop only , AdCoC is superior to Oden and add in KoH and Ashura, Oden is fucked.
" only in koh his haki become as strong as oden " .
Why would KoH make Zoro weaker? Zoro alrrady surpassed Oden AP on Rooftop.

The levels of stupidity
Imagine a man in kaido's top 5 struggling with king

Nusjuro doesn't own a black blade but Oda could just mention him fighting against Ryuma in the past. He has other powers besides his sword skill to be on that level