Character Discussion Trying to understand why people like Kuma

#1
I'm getting tad annoyed at how he's getting hyped for his backstory reveal in the anime, I don't understand why he's liked. His mountain of patience, tolerance and constant bending down to WG/CD since he was a kid until the very end really piss me off.

He has a slave mentality with a defeatist attitude and is the polar opposite of Fisher Tiger, Hancock, Kaido, Big Mom and Shiki etc who escaped, established themselves as fearful figures and are respected by everyone for their strength. They didn't go back to WG and would rather risk war than negotiate with them. The same can be said for most pirates.

So, why is he popular in the community?
 
#7
I'm getting tad annoyed at how he's getting hyped for his backstory reveal in the anime, I don't understand why he's liked. His mountain of patience, tolerance and constant bending down to WG/CD since he was a kid until the very end really piss me off.

He has a slave mentality with a defeatist attitude and is the polar opposite of Fisher Tiger, Hancock, Kaido, Big Mom and Shiki etc who escaped, established themselves as fearful figures and are respected by everyone for their strength. They didn't go back to WG and would rather risk war than negotiate with them. The same can be said for most pirates.

So, why is he popular in the community?
What's a kid supposed to do against a concentration camp? You act like you can just disobey people when your life is at stake. Like he can just as a kid of single digit age talk anyhow he wants to people who can kill him and his family at any time. Like Kids can just be easily brave when it's naturally instinctive for kids to be fearful and dependent on others.
Unless you're suicidal or you have no concept of self preservation, that's a problem.

Bending down to the WG? He defeated his own country's king simply to save the people. Not sure how that makes him the opposite of Fisher Tiger or Hancock. He was fighting against the WG and went as far as even joining the Revolutionary army, the WG's worst enemy.

The only reason he left the Revolutionary Army and started to obey the WG was to save his only child. What father who is a good one... wouldn't put their life down for the one and only kid they love?

Kuma wasn't patient or tolerant of the WG, he just knew he had to do what they said in order to save Bonney. He refused to see her to make sure she got treated and didn't die at the age of 10 even though she meant the whole world to him.

To compare Kuma to people like Big Mom or Kaido shows you have no understanding of character. Kuma does things for the people he cares for which means he has to sacrifice.
Big Mom or Kaido don't have people they care for, so they don't need to sacrifice, therefore they can do anything that they want to do. They can go to war knowing full well people besides them will die, and that's fine with them because they're psychopaths.

To also compare Hancock along side BIg Mom or Kaido? You don't understand character. Hancock was raped by the WG. The reason she does what she does is to protect the people of Amazon Lily, so they don't get raped or go through what they went through as kids. She's no different to Kuma.

He's popular with the community because most people in the community have something called empathy (ability to put one's self in another person's situation and understand their feelings) and sympathy because they know and understand he was suffering, and you seem to lack both.
Can only conclude you didn't read Kuma's story at all, or you did and lack empathy & sympathy.

Your question makes me think if you were a family man, husband with a wife, had kids and the WG kidnapped them saying if you don't obey, they'll kill your wife and kids... since you don't understand Kuma, your choice would be to disregard the wellbeing of your family and go to war with the WG like Kaido and Big Mom would do.

To take away from reading Kuma as having a slave mentality... is wild because he didn't have one, Kuma is what any human being would ideal to become if they had the balls to do so, to be able to sacrifice yourself to people you love regardless of the consequence. He had one of the greatest mentalities in the series, and that's one of pure love - put those you love above yourself.
What's so ironic is that you bring up Fisher Tiger who actually wished he could become like Kuma, but he wasn't strong enough to do so and chose to die as someone full of hate which he resented himself for.
 

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#11
Shush you. If his backstory was exactly the same, but it turned out he worshipped a God called Asura, you'd suck his Buccaneer balls.

It's ok to like a character related to Nika. It won't expose you as a Nika lover.
Zoro is an atheist if you stopped sucking his nuts in every post you make you would know that, no ''asura god'' would be related to him in anyway
 
#14
people can stop liking a character for any reason, why that bothers you is the real question
Bothers me? Not in the slightest. Find it hilarious that someone hates a fictional character so much, they would start to hate another fictional character that they used to like, simply for being associated with said character? Yes....

By the way, I didn't know Nik needed a cheerleader to respond for him. What would have been a troll exchange between me and him, you went and chimed in, being all serious.
 

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#15
Mind Kuma~ solid 8/10 character great design, motivations and his willingness to self sacrifice if it means his daughter can live a full life is noble foolish to actually believe Saturn wouldn't have ulterior motives but he was willing to risk it for her safety, even risked his own will being by helping the strawhats.

Mindless Kuma~ he punched a Celestial Dragon then immediately went back to being a paper weight, just a machine who started running on instinct, and making terrible decisions, mind kuma would of used his power to transport everyone away or ursus shock the island solid 5/10 character
 

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#17
The more important question

:beckmoji: Why don't more people like my boy Helmeppo
 

Peroroncino

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#18
Bothers me? Not in the slightest. Find it hilarious that someone hates a fictional character so much, they would start to hate another fictional character that they used to like, simply for being associated with said character? Yes....

By the way, I didn't know Nik needed a cheerleader to respond for him. What would have been a troll exchange between me and him, you went and chimed in, being all serious.
dont talk about ''b-but how can people hate a fictional character so much'' when you got triggered over someone else disliking a character lmao.
Anyone can dislike a character for any reason, i dont like kizaru for being a nika twerker anymore either.
so fuck you for thinking you can dictate why others should like or dislike a character
 
#19
dont talk about ''b-but how can people hate a fictional character so much'' when you got triggered over someone else disliking a character lmao.
Anyone can dislike a character for any reason, i dont like kizaru for being a nika twerker anymore either.
"Triggered"
If you think so. :milaugh:

Whose kicking off a serious debate with "Shush you", and then throwing a joke about Buccaneer Balls in there?

It's seems you were the one who was triggered my friend.
 
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