Future Events Sanji will fight Marcus Mars in the future

#22
Yeah, if we're lucky.



You just answered it yourself. Luffy's peers and allies will be there, too. Law, Kidd, Momoron, Bonney, Dragon, Sabo, Yamato, and Koby, just to name a few. That's not even counting an ancient weapon like Shirahoshi or maybe even Joy Boy's allies like Zunesha or the Giant Robot. Lolda literally has given Luffy enough peers and allies to take on Imu, the Admirals, and the Gorosei without his crew's involvement.
Why would Oda sideline his main characters for the sake of supporting characters? It all boils down to spotlight.

There's no advantages in removing the 2nd & 4th most popular character, unless Mihawk fight is happening at the same time.
 
#23
Why would Oda sideline his main characters for the sake of supporting characters? It all boils down to spotlight.

There's no advantages in removing the 2nd & 4th most popular character, unless Mihawk fight is happening at the same time.
:saitahu:

Since when popularity played into whether someone is sidelined or not in One Piece? :nicagesmile:

Zoro, Nami, and Sanji are more popular than Law. Did they beat people more important than the ones Law beat in Punk Hazard, Dressrosa, and Wano respectively? :zehaha:

Zoro, Nami, and Sanji are more popular than Kidd. Did they beat anybody more important than the one Kidd beat in Wano? :youcraz:

Lolda has been sidelining the SHs for the sake of supporting characters all post-TS long, dude. For example, I don't know why so many people think it's a given Zoro is gonna fight or even beat Nusjuro when Nusjuro is a swordsman mythical Zoan and Lolda literally just gave Luffy a swordsman mythical zoan peer he left in Wano. :jordanmf:

It's not really unthinkable for Lolda to write Momoron vs Nusjuro or Law vs Fujitora in the final war while Zoro and the Cook fight Garling's two bickering commanders (if they even fight anybody at all). :ronalaugh:

P. S.

@Luffy is the mc
@HellBlazer04 Mates, you gotta see this. I have to admit this popularity scaling is new to me.
 
#26
:saitahu:

Since when popularity played into whether someone is sidelined or not in One Piece? :nicagesmile:

Zoro, Nami, and Sanji are more popular than Law. Did they beat people more important than the ones Law beat in Punk Hazard, Dressrosa, and Wano respectively? :zehaha:

Zoro, Nami, and Sanji are more popular than Kidd. Did they beat anybody more important than the one Kidd beat in Wano? :youcraz:

Lolda has been sidelining the SHs for the sake of supporting characters all post-TS long, dude. For example, I don't know why so many people think it's a given Zoro is gonna fight or even beat Nusjuro when Nusjuro is a swordsman mythical Zoan and Lolda literally just gave Luffy a swordsman mythical zoan peer he left in Wano. :jordanmf:

It's not really unthinkable for Lolda to write Momoron vs Nusjuro or Law vs Fujitora in the final war while Zoro and the Cook fight Garling's two bickering commanders (if they even fight anybody at all). :ronalaugh:

P. S.

@Luffy is the mc
@HellBlazer04 Mates, you gotta see this. I have to admit this popularity scaling is new to me.
Idk what to tell these people man.
They seriously think SHs are important to the plot. We can remove all crewmates and the story wouldn't change at all currently. That's how irrelevant they are.
And yet after the disaster of an arc called Wano, people out there still believe these irrelevant fodders will important dudes like Admirals/Gorosei

At this point ima let them keep believing in their delusions
 
#27
:saitahu:

Since when popularity played into whether someone is sidelined or not in One Piece? :nicagesmile:

Zoro, Nami, and Sanji are more popular than Law. Did they beat people more important than the ones Law beat in Punk Hazard, Dressrosa, and Wano respectively? :zehaha:

Zoro, Nami, and Sanji are more popular than Kidd. Did they beat anybody more important than the one Kidd beat in Wano? :youcraz:

Lolda has been sidelining the SHs for the sake of supporting characters all post-TS long, dude. For example, I don't know why so many people think it's a given Zoro is gonna fight or even beat Nusjuro when Nusjuro is a swordsman mythical Zoan and Lolda literally just gave Luffy a swordsman mythical zoan peer he left in Wano. :jordanmf:

It's not really unthinkable for Lolda to write Momoron vs Nusjuro or Law vs Fujitora in the final war while Zoro and the Cook fight Garling's two bickering commanders (if they even fight anybody at all). :ronalaugh:

P. S.

@Luffy is the mc
@HellBlazer04 Mates, you gotta see this. I have to admit this popularity scaling is new to me.
The one thing you got this wrong is equating popularity to powerlevel, and assuming "everyone" vs WG, whereas what people consider in this type of discussion / scenario is SH+GF+Allies (which only amount to Yamato&Momo) vs WG.
 
#28
The one thing you got this wrong is equating popularity to powerlevel, and assuming "everyone" vs WG, whereas what people consider in this type of discussion / scenario is SH+GF+Allies (which only amount to Yamato&Momo) vs WG.
You were the one who brought up popularity first, dude. How the heck did I become the wrong one? I simply pointed out that Lolda never took popularity into consideration when doing match-ups and it's true.

And are you saying it won't be everyone vs WG? Lolwut?

Besides, just so you know, Luffy, Yamato, and Momoron aren't enough to beat Imu, Gorosei, and the Admirals. That's why they'd need help from Luffy's other peers like Law, Kidd, Bonney, Sabo, Koby, and the likes to handle those people.

Idk what to tell these people man.
They seriously think SHs are important to the plot. We can remove all crewmates and the story wouldn't change at all currently. That's how irrelevant they are.
And yet after the disaster of an arc called Wano, people out there still believe these irrelevant fodders will important dudes like Admirals/Gorosei

At this point ima let them keep believing in their delusions
It feels unreal, man. It's like 99% of the fandom learned all the wrong lessons from Wano. :suresure:

This far in the story and Luffy's crew never beat anybody who mattered and these people out here thinking Luffy's crew vs Admirals or Gorosei is a given. :milaugh:

I mean, I'd rather believe we get Zoro vs Garling's random underling no. 2 in the final war only to be proven wrong by Zoro vs Fujitora than taking fights like Zoro vs Fujitora or Zoro vs any Gorosei for granted before being proven wrong by Zoro vs Garling's random underling no. 2, man. :gokulaugh:
 
#29
It feels unreal, man. It's like 99% of the fandom learned all the wrong lessons from Wano. :suresure:

This far in the story and Luffy's crew never beat anybody who mattered and these people out here thinking Luffy's crew vs Admirals or Gorosei is a given. :milaugh:

I mean, I'd rather believe we get Zoro vs Garling's random underling no. 2 in the final war only to be proven wrong by Zoro vs Fujitora than taking fights like Zoro vs Fujitora or Zoro vs any Gorosei for granted before being proven wrong by Zoro vs Garling's random underling no. 2, man. :gokulaugh:
Even Zoro vs Mihawk is a dream for now and they think Zoro vs all these opponents is happening:gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
 
#31
You were the one who brought up popularity first, dude. How the heck did I become the wrong one? I simply pointed out that Lolda never took popularity into consideration when doing match-ups and it's true.

And are you saying it won't be everyone vs WG? Lolwut?

Besides, just so you know, Luffy, Yamato, and Momoron aren't enough to beat Imu, Gorosei, and the Admirals. That's why they'd need help from Luffy's other peers like Law, Kidd, Bonney, Sabo, Koby, and the likes to handle those people.



It feels unreal, man. It's like 99% of the fandom learned all the wrong lessons from Wano. :suresure:

This far in the story and Luffy's crew never beat anybody who mattered and these people out here thinking Luffy's crew vs Admirals or Gorosei is a given. :milaugh:

I mean, I'd rather believe we get Zoro vs Garling's random underling no. 2 in the final war only to be proven wrong by Zoro vs Fujitora than taking fights like Zoro vs Fujitora or Zoro vs any Gorosei for granted before being proven wrong by Zoro vs Garling's random underling no. 2, man. :gokulaugh:
What I'm referring to is popular characters always given story relevance. For example, Nami is made to be present in Luffy-Law alliance, made her to be tied to PH kids, etc.

And because the endgame will be filled with mostly battles, they will have significant role too. So in the case of Admiral/Gorosei level, Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe fighting them is a possibility.

If it's not happening, that'll because they don't given enough powerlevel by Oda, not because "Oda doesn't care about SH characters/story" like you implied.
 
#32
You were the one who brought up popularity first, dude. How the heck did I become the wrong one? I simply pointed out that Lolda never took popularity into consideration when doing match-ups and it's true.

And are you saying it won't be everyone vs WG? Lolwut?

Besides, just so you know, Luffy, Yamato, and Momoron aren't enough to beat Imu, Gorosei, and the Admirals. That's why they'd need help from Luffy's other peers like Law, Kidd, Bonney, Sabo, Koby, and the likes to handle those people.



It feels unreal, man. It's like 99% of the fandom learned all the wrong lessons from Wano. :suresure:

This far in the story and Luffy's crew never beat anybody who mattered and these people out here thinking Luffy's crew vs Admirals or Gorosei is a given. :milaugh:

I mean, I'd rather believe we get Zoro vs Garling's random underling no. 2 in the final war only to be proven wrong by Zoro vs Fujitora than taking fights like Zoro vs Fujitora or Zoro vs any Gorosei for granted before being proven wrong by Zoro vs Garling's random underling no. 2, man. :gokulaugh:
Tbf zoro has always fought the strongest subordinate available to whoever luffy fought

Monet for Caesar
Pica for Doflamingo
King for Kaido

Should be the same with imu regardless of who he actually fights they’ll be the strongest subordinate available
 
#33
If the straw hats fight the gorosei clearly Mars will fight Sanji and Nesjuro will fight Zoro.
yeah of course it possible that zoro will fight garling who will be stronger then mihawk ( mihawks title only applies to the lower realm ) so
Sanji has been humiliated by saturn and nasjuro, so now sanji fans want him to switch to other gorosei :suresure::suresure::suresure:
Sanji was not humiliated by either of them
Sanji got hit by an eye attack like luffy (who spat blood )
And then paralyzed with some bad so kuma could save bonney
Then misinformation landed a hit and we saw nothing afterwards other then what happened in the middle of the motion of the fight


Zoro has t really shown anything that he would have done better against them he never showed anything that put him above sanji

Current zoro =current sanji

Oda Keats does this he never answers the question of who is stronger and he has portrayed them as rivals paralleling dorry and brogy nobody goes well mr 3 took down that giant white dorry ate an explosive

Dorry and brogy are equals the same applies to sanji and zoro sanji tends to finish off his opponents easier then zoro does
(Note here that the rule of zoro and sanji always fighting the 2nd and 3rd strongest isn’t always applied zoros fought Monet while sanji took down vergo doffys 2nd strongest (
 
#35
Even Zoro vs Mihawk is a dream for now and they think Zoro vs all these opponents is happening:gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
I am holding out hope for Zoro vs Mihawk to be an epilogue fight at least. TOEI will make them both look priceless, even if Lolda won't. :sighting:

Tbf zoro has always fought the strongest subordinate available to whoever luffy fought

Monet for Caesar
Pica for Doflamingo
King for Kaido

Should be the same with imu regardless of who he actually fights they’ll be the strongest subordinate available
Vergo > Monet, dude.

Also, pretty sure Trebol has a bigger bounty than Pica.

And Lolda made sure King pretty much has an equal in Queen, so singling King out as Kaido's strongest subordinate just doesn't work when the manga portrayed them as equals.

Zoro vs Imu's strongest subordinate maybe has 5% chance of happening.

What I'm referring to is popular characters always given story relevance. For example, Nami is made to be present in Luffy-Law alliance, made her to be tied to PH kids, etc.

And because the endgame will be filled with mostly battles, they will have significant role too. So in the case of Admiral/Gorosei level, Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe fighting them is a possibility.

If it's not happening, that'll because they don't given enough powerlevel by Oda, not because "Oda doesn't care about SH characters/story" like you implied.
But, Lolda DOES NOT care about the SHs. How can I genuinely say he cares about them after reading post-TS, man? :kobeha:

Alright, now I don't think we will ever agree about Lolda's degree of SHs caring.

That aside, I never wrote off Zoro vs an Admiral completely. I think it has no more than 10% chance of happening, though.
 
#37
Vergo > Monet, dude.

Also, pretty sure Trebol has a bigger bounty than Pica.

And Lolda made sure King pretty much has an equal in Queen, so singling King out as Kaido's strongest subordinate just doesn't work when the manga portrayed them as equals.

Zoro vs Imu's strongest subordinate maybe has 5% chance of happening.
Vergo wasn’t Caesar’s subordinate tho Monet was

All 3 executives had the same bounty
Even if we saw they were all equal in strength zoro is the only strawhat to beat one

Them because relatively close doesn’t make them equals. Marco is stronger than jozu same way. Also by nature of his name being king he’s stronger than queen

Even if he doesn’t fight the strongest he’d be the strawhat to fight the strongest after luffy
 
#39
Vergo wasn’t Caesar’s subordinate tho Monet was

All 3 executives had the same bounty
Even if we saw they were all equal in strength zoro is the only strawhat to beat one

Them because relatively close doesn’t make them equals. Marco is stronger than jozu same way. Also by nature of his name being king he’s stronger than queen

Even if he doesn’t fight the strongest he’d be the strawhat to fight the strongest after luffy
When in an alliance the captains get better fights it seems. Bigmom, who is second strongest got beaten by Law and Kidd in wano. If in the end if there is an alliance, then Zoro will not fight second strongest. But he beat someone stronger than Sanji's opponent for sure.
 
#40
When in an alliance the captains get better fights it seems. Bigmom, who is second strongest got beaten by Law and Kidd in wano. If in the end if there is an alliance, then Zoro will not fight second strongest. But he beat someone stronger than Sanji's opponent for sure.
Tbf big mom was never a subordinate of luffy’s opponent tho

Tho I get what you mean and I don’t really disagree tbh. Whoever he fights should be interesting regardless
 
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