Future Events Sanji will fight Marcus Mars in the future

#41
Vergo wasn’t Caesar’s subordinate tho Monet was

All 3 executives had the same bounty
Even if we saw they were all equal in strength zoro is the only strawhat to beat one

Them because relatively close doesn’t make them equals. Marco is stronger than jozu same way. Also by nature of his name being king he’s stronger than queen
Fair enough on these fronts, I suppose.

Even if he doesn’t fight the strongest he’d be the strawhat to fight the strongest after luffy
Tbf big mom was never a subordinate of luffy’s opponent tho

Tho I get what you mean and I don’t really disagree tbh. Whoever he fights should be interesting regardless
I doubt Garling's underling would make an interesting opponent for Zoro, tbh. :gokulaugh:

That aside, I already stated before that I think Zoro vs an Admiral and Zoro vs a Gorosei have less than 10% and 5% chance of happening respectively. So, now what I wanna know is, what percentage would you give those match-ups the probability of happening? You're quite opinionated, so I wanna know if you share my sentiment regarding their percentage or would you give them higher/lower chances of happening?
 
#42
Fair enough on these fronts, I suppose.





I doubt Garling's underling would make an interesting opponent for Zoro, tbh. :gokulaugh:

That aside, I already stated before that I think Zoro vs an Admiral and Zoro vs a Gorosei have less than 10% and 5% chance of happening respectively. So, now what I wanna know is, what percentage would you give those match-ups the probability of happening? You're quite opinionated, so I wanna know if you share my sentiment regarding their percentage or would you give them higher/lower chances of happening?
I don’t think zoro will fight an admiral and think ryokugyu and fujitora will be left to kid and law. At the same time I think he’ll fight a zodiac specifically orange
  1. Same way mihawk will be zoro’s emperor fight equivalent without actually being an emperor
  2. The orange admiral can be his admiral fight equivalent without actually being an admiral
    • Orange likely being comparable to green and purple just not as important
As for the gorosei idk tbh
I don’t really mind them being left to alíes instead. I think s-hawk could be a cool alternative and wouldn’t mind if he fights a holy knight either
As for what percentage I’d put on it’s likelihood I guess 40% maybe
 
#43
well mr morj has a theory that sanji fights nusjuro and zoro fights marcus mars basically swiching who you would expect them to fight (with their opponents reflecting their rivalry ( zoro fighting the flier while sanji fights the swordsman)


and bring up sanjis connections to the planet venus named after the god of love
You gotta be completely braindead if you think Sanji is ever fighting let alone beating a swordman. This is gonna be "Sanji fights King and Zoro fights Queen" all over again isnt it?
:suresure::suresure::suresure:
Sanjistans better hope Sanji decides to pay a visit to his dad to get a new raid suit soon, or this cochakiless ass will be lucky to even be at YC1 level in the eos.
 
#45
Tbf big mom was never a subordinate of luffy’s opponent tho

Tho I get what you mean and I don’t really disagree tbh. Whoever he fights should be interesting regardless
We can't have individual faction vs individual faction battles anymore. Cross Guild, BB and Shanks' plots will be taken care in one fell swoop in an arc. We don't have time to get to them individually. We will have alliance vs alliance till the end.
 
#46
We can't have individual faction vs individual faction battles anymore. Cross Guild, BB and Shanks' plots will be taken care in one fell swoop in an arc. We don't have time to get to them individually. We will have alliance vs alliance till the end.
I disagree I think the emperors and even admiral will be taken down before imu is dealt with
 
#47
I am holding out hope for Zoro vs Mihawk to be an epilogue fight at least. TOEI will make them both look priceless, even if Lolda won't. :sighting:
I genuinely don't think that fight would be longer than 1 chapter, at best it could be 2 chapters if it happens in manga.
Can't trust toei as well on it, the king fight was ass till 1062. They're not gonna do much better with the Mohawk fight as well
 
#48
I am holding out hope for Zoro vs Mihawk to be an epilogue fight at least. TOEI will make them both look priceless, even if Lolda won't. :sighting:



Vergo > Monet, dude.

Also, pretty sure Trebol has a bigger bounty than Pica.

And Lolda made sure King pretty much has an equal in Queen, so singling King out as Kaido's strongest subordinate just doesn't work when the manga portrayed them as equals.

Zoro vs Imu's strongest subordinate maybe has 5% chance of happening.



But, Lolda DOES NOT care about the SHs. How can I genuinely say he cares about them after reading post-TS, man? :kobeha:

Alright, now I don't think we will ever agree about Lolda's degree of SHs caring.

That aside, I never wrote off Zoro vs an Admiral completely. I think it has no more than 10% chance of happening, though.
Well, we can say he cares about them, just not about battles.

When do you think Zoro vs Admiral will gonna happen? After or before Mihawk?

For me defeating Mihawk already mean he can defeat the Admirals, so I agree that the possibility is indeed very low.
 
#49
Zoro's "sword fight" is better focused on Mihawk for endgame. So his Gorosei fight should not be Nasujuro.

If anything, to showcase the attack power of Zoro, him damaging Topman (which Luffy have trouble even with Red Roc that damages Kaido) is a fitting matchup.

It also acts as a confirmation that Zoro can easily damage Kaido.
Mihawk will never be zoro endgame fight

This story isn't ending with Zoro fighting someone for wss

The story ends when Luffy beats iMu and his crew beat WG members

Zoro will become WSS before luffy becomes PK
That's their contract
 
#50
I don’t think zoro will fight an admiral and think ryokugyu and fujitora will be left to kid and law. At the same time I think he’ll fight a zodiac specifically orange
  1. Same way mihawk will be zoro’s emperor fight equivalent without actually being an emperor
  2. The orange admiral can be his admiral fight equivalent without actually being an admiral
    • Orange likely being comparable to green and purple just not as important
As for the gorosei idk tbh
I don’t really mind them being left to alíes instead. I think s-hawk could be a cool alternative and wouldn’t mind if he fights a holy knight either
As for what percentage I’d put on it’s likelihood I guess 40% maybe
Well, at least now we know where we stand about this.

I genuinely don't think that fight would be longer than 1 chapter, at best it could be 2 chapters if it happens in manga.
Can't trust toei as well on it, the king fight was ass till 1062. They're not gonna do much better with the Mohawk fight as well
I can't really disagree with your points.

I don't doubt that Zoro vs Mihawk will last only 1-2 chapters in the manga.

Fair enough about TOEI, too. Aside from 1062, they didn't do a good job animating Zoro vs King.

Well, we can say he cares about them, just not about battles.

When do you think Zoro vs Admiral will gonna happen? After or before Mihawk?

For me defeating Mihawk already mean he can defeat the Admirals, so I agree that the possibility is indeed very low.
Lolda never really portrayed Mihawk to be above any of the Admirals, so I don't know how you got that idea. But that's a debate for another time, especially since I only give Zoro vs an Admiral less than 10% chance of happening now, so I do not see that little probability as relevant for Zoro vs Mihawk happening.

Ideally, Zoro vs Mihawk should be an epilogue fight. Especially so since there is no real animosity between them and it carries no plot weight in the grander scheme of things.

If not in the epilogue, 2nd most possible is it being played out after Luffy found the One Piece but before the Final War.

If at that point Cross Guild is the only faction who hasn't really sided with PK Luffy in his fight against WG, the story can make it so Luffy and Buggy confront each other with a bet. They'll each send a representative to fight ala Dune. If Luffy's rep wins, CG listens to his orders. If Buggy's rep wins, SHs listen to his orders. Luffy sends Zoro, so Mihawk strongarms Buggy into sending him out.

We got Zoro vs Mihawk. Zoro wins, becomes WSS, CG joins Luffy's side, and then the Final War begins not long after.

Besides, Zoro becoming WSS pre-Final War is a convenient way for Lolda to not do Zoro vs an Admiral/a Gorosei in favor of doing Zoro vs someone less significant like a Holy Knight, anyway. Lolda can simply write it so Zoro is way too injured to fight the Admirals and the Gorosei as an excuse to do Luffy's peers vs Gorosei and Admirals while writing Zoro vs bickering holy knight no. 2 as an out, so to speak.
 
#52
Reminds me of Sanji fighting King cuz muh duh flying and fire. Lmao y'all never learn
I'm just saying that they have connections, or not completely zero ties. As in, any possibility exists.

Like Sanji vs King can happen because of their theme, Sanji vs Jack can happen because Zou, Sanji vs Queen can happen because of Germa/Science.

Like Sanji vs Shiryu can happen because of invis, vs Burgess can happen because of martial artist, vs Lafitte can happen because stealth, vs Vasco can happen because of pervert, etc.

Whether it happens or not doesn't matter, the point is they have connections.
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Well, at least now we know where we stand about this.



I can't really disagree with your points.

I don't doubt that Zoro vs Mihawk will last only 1-2 chapters in the manga.

Fair enough about TOEI, too. Aside from 1062, they didn't do a good job animating Zoro vs King.



Lolda never really portrayed Mihawk to be above any of the Admirals, so I don't know how you got that idea. But that's a debate for another time, especially since I only give Zoro vs an Admiral less than 10% chance of happening now, so I do not see that little probability as relevant for Zoro vs Mihawk happening.

Ideally, Zoro vs Mihawk should be an epilogue fight. Especially so since there is no real animosity between them and it carries no plot weight in the grander scheme of things.

If not in the epilogue, 2nd most possible is it being played out after Luffy found the One Piece but before the Final War.

If at that point Cross Guild is the only faction who hasn't really sided with PK Luffy in his fight against WG, the story can make it so Luffy and Buggy confront each other with a bet. They'll each send a representative to fight ala Dune. If Luffy's rep wins, CG listens to his orders. If Buggy's rep wins, SHs listen to his orders. Luffy sends Zoro, so Mihawk strongarms Buggy into sending him out.

We got Zoro vs Mihawk. Zoro wins, becomes WSS, CG joins Luffy's side, and then the Final War begins not long after.

Besides, Zoro becoming WSS pre-Final War is a convenient way for Lolda to not do Zoro vs an Admiral/a Gorosei in favor of doing Zoro vs someone less significant like a Holy Knight, anyway. Lolda can simply write it so Zoro is way too injured to fight the Admirals and the Gorosei as an excuse to do Luffy's peers vs Gorosei and Admirals while writing Zoro vs bickering holy knight no. 2 as an out, so to speak.
Yeah, Luffy said if he's Pirate King he should have WSS on his side. So Mihawk before last war is possible. Battle in Laugh Tale.

But if final fight isn't someone stronger than Mihawk, wouldn't it be anti climatic? Or Garling gonna be boosted above Mihawk?
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Mihawk will never be zoro endgame fight

This story isn't ending with Zoro fighting someone for wss

The story ends when Luffy beats iMu and his crew beat WG members

Zoro will become WSS before luffy becomes PK
That's their contract
Who do you think will be his last fight?
Do you think Zoro will black all 3 his blade together, or one by one?
Like 1 Shiryu fight, 1 Mihawk fight, 1 Gorosei fight.
 
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#53
Yeah, Luffy said if he's Pirate King he should have WSS on his side. So Mihawk before last war is possible. Battle in Laugh Tale.

But if final fight isn't someone stronger than Mihawk, wouldn't it be anti climatic? Or Garling gonna be boosted above Mihawk?
This can be easily solved if Lolda has the guts to book WSS Zoro vs an Admiral for the Final War. No boosting or injury angle will be necessary because any Admiral would give even a healthy WSS Zoro a run for his money, anyway.

However, since WSS Zoro vs an Admiral is now unlikelier than WSS Zoro vs a random Holy Knight, what Lolda might do is debuffing Zoro by playing his injury angle more than boosting whichever Garling's underling he is gonna be saddled with EoS.
 

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#54
If Zoro fights a Gorosei he'll fight Nusjuro

if Sanji fights a Gorosei he'll fight either Mars or Ju Peter

Warcury, Saturn and Mars/Peter will fight other characters...
 
#55
Vergo wasn’t Caesar’s subordinate tho Monet was
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It’s irrelevant the argument zorofans cite to try and push pica above vergo is claiming that every arc sanji fights the third strongest while zoro fights the second you can’t use it since this is broken in punk hazard (sanji dominated vergo in that fight even with that injury (which he had due to his body getting softened up via ceasars attack while nami was in it )

And monet wasn’t ceasars subordinate she was doffys
 
#56
It’s irrelevant the argument zorofans cite to try and push pica above vergo is claiming that every arc sanji fights the third strongest while zoro fights the second you can’t use it since this is broken in punk hazard
You are literally retarded. "Their arguments are invalidated because I said so even tho I didn't bring any meaningful argument to the table to counter it."


sanji dominated vergo in that fight
Did you watch two piece or something?

which he had due to his body getting softened up via ceasars attack while nami was in it )
Ussop literally got hit by the same attack as Sanji and he was doing fine lil bro. Are you implying that Ussop's durability>Lanji's?

And monet wasn’t ceasars subordinate she was doffys
Stop taking drugs
 
#57
It’s irrelevant the argument zorofans cite to try and push pica above vergo is claiming that every arc sanji fights the third strongest while zoro fights the second you can’t use it since this is broken in punk hazard (sanji dominated vergo in that fight even with that injury (which he had due to his body getting softened up via ceasars attack while nami was in it )

And monet wasn’t ceasars subordinate she was doffys
Runji was injured by something that Usopp tanked? What a weakling! :shocked:
 
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