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Quick reminder for everybody, this chapter 100% confirms Nusjuro has the Shodai. Which means he has the fourth Supreme Grade Blade revealed by Oda. The other characters who have them? Roger, Whitebeard and Mihawk. Not even Shanks is part of that list yet btw. I often give him the benefit of the doubt but Oda has not confirmed Gryphon is on that level yet.

The idea that there are still people coping about the Gorosei being non-Top tiers is legit agenda brainrot at this stage. Nusjuro might very well be above Shanks and be able to call himself the second strongest swordsman at this stage not gonna lie.

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He has a Supreme Grade Blade that is also a cursed blade, either he is a devil/demon himself or awakened a mythical zoan devil fruit that further boosts him, is immortal, he has AdCoc and if I had to hazard a guess probably all advanced forms of Haki, its honestly kinda crazy if you list it all.

The only reason I have Mihawk above him still is Yoru being explicitly the best sword in the verse while also a black blade, but Shanks? Gryphon is probably neither cursed, nor has he blackened the blade either.

Shanks unlike Nusjuro cant regenerate as the Lord of the Coast can attest to, and he also has not devil fruit amp. Even IF Shanks has slightly better Haki, which I would argue is up for the debate, that ain't enough to make up for all the other shit Nusjuro has over him.

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Bro
The admirals without fruits are getting washed by these yonko
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They were gifted op fruits
So it doesnt matter
Garp s the only one who did it without them
We have Oda's word you clown. Whatever you say doesn't matter since you have already proven you don't care what Oda says.

Oda considers them as present time heroes DESPITE the fruit usage so your sorry ass was debunked.

The Admirals destroy the Yonkou with or without fruits, that's already clear when Kuzan bodied Garp who beats Kaido without his fruit.
 
No they don’t have to be everything, but they are the leaders of the crew regardless.

When the crews in peril and needs leadership cause Luffy messes up or Luffys gone, Zoro and Sanji are the ones who step up. When Luffy and the crew were separating, he Zoro and Sanji were all leading their own groups, when the crew were reuniting Luffy Zoro and Sanji reunited. When Oda highlights two crew members that stand out as Luffys wings that’ll allow the pirate king to soar it’s Zoro and Sanji.

Usopp and Nami are great, but they’re not VC or Chief of Staff type characters
A big reason for that is because they’re stronger. They aren’t actually more important outside of that and they don’t have any more say than anyone else in the crew

Usopp has been foreshadowed to become the vice captain
Nami in general leads a lot depending on the situation. With luffy zoro and sanji all having no problem listening to her when it comes down to it

Them getting something zoro and sanji don’t isn’t the end of the world for them
Stop the BS. You and a few others continue to lie and make stuff up about Zoro and his opponents.

Lucci specializes in speed and CQC. Kaku is a better range and mobile fighter than Lucci. Look at there battle against the seraphims. Zoro destroyed Lucci in speed and CQC.

King has the best flight and mobility in the manga. He tried to beat Zoro by knocking him off the island but fail because of Zoro's power to move through the air. He used range and flight throughout the battle to try to beat Zoro yet failed. The only time he was able to hit Zoro was when Zoro was distracted or King was fighting at close range.

After Zoro mastered enma and obtained ACoC, King went through his through all his mayjor moves and power to try beat Zoro and failed. King tried high speed movement, CQC, powerful AP, range, distraction sneak attacks/trick, flight, distance and range yet it all failed.

What's funny about this is when King used range, distance, speed and flight to try to beat Zoro at the end, because he didn't think his flame mode would protect him from Zoro's AP, you and others called him stupid. Now you're claiming King had to stay on the ground and fight Zoro at close range.
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Stop, you are embarrassed yourself.
King could have won if he never went down to fight zoro
Compare how dynamic Lucci vs luffy was to Lucci vs zoro

This isn’t about strength
Even if he can neg diff them together that’s not the point

The point is I want to see characters that can fly actually fly

If it’s between zoro fighting the stronger top man who can’t fly or the weaker nusjuro who might be able to I’d rather see him fight the stronger guy visually
 
headcanon, if he did it then there's no reason to believe he cant do it everytime
Headcanon when? Oda himself told you the eyebrow thing, he still draws it for a reason.
It makes you cope so hard that BASE sanji did that good against venus.
The bandana doesn't change a shit, the eyebrow does, not the opposite.
Sanji trasformation in those panels were not 100% completed, it is easy deduction skills, only a retard would need more confirmation.

Oda: You have keen eyes, indeed the eyebrow was changing in those chapters. It’ll take us back to Whole Cake Island but, Sanji’s siblings all have their lineage factors altered and thus are born with superhuman qualities and tough skin known as “exoskeleton”. However, due to the effort of his mother, Sanji was born as a normal human being. Let’s take a look at the siblings’ eyebrows.
Like you see their eyebrow are all opposite of Sanji’s and curved like 66. “But then, the raid suit acted as a trigger that discover the power of science inside Sanji!!” That was the gist of the fight. Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame
 
A big reason for that is because they’re stronger. They aren’t actually more important outside of that and they don’t have any more say than anyone else in the crew

Usopp has been foreshadowed to become the vice captain
Nami in general leads a lot depending on the situation. With luffy zoro and sanji all having no problem listening to her when it comes down to it



Them getting something zoro and sanji don’t isn’t the end of the world for them

King could have won if he never went down to fight zoro
Compare how dynamic Lucci vs luffy was to Lucci vs zoro

This isn’t about strength
Even if he can neg diff them together that’s not the point

The point is I want to see characters that can fly actually fly

If it’s between zoro fighting the stronger top man who can’t fly or the weaker nusjuro who might be able to I’d rather see him fight the stronger guy visually
Stronger, more reliable, better leaders, more important

Yeah characters listen to the navigator when they are on sea cause her role is to ensure the ship gets from point A to point point B.

They can get a lot that Zoro and Sanji don’t, but acting like they’re the ships two leaders under Luffy is actively downplaying Zoro and Sanjis roles on the crew.
 
Headcanon when? Oda himself told you the eyebrow thing, he still draws it for a reason.
It makes you cope so hard that BASE sanji did that good against venus.
The bandana doesn't change a shit, the eyebrow does, not the opposite.
Sanji trasformation in those panels were not 100% completed, it is easy deduction skills, only a retard would need more confirmation.

Oda: You have keen eyes, indeed the eyebrow was changing in those chapters. It’ll take us back to Whole Cake Island but, Sanji’s siblings all have their lineage factors altered and thus are born with superhuman qualities and tough skin known as “exoskeleton”. However, due to the effort of his mother, Sanji was born as a normal human being. Let’s take a look at the siblings’ eyebrows.
Like you see their eyebrow are all opposite of Sanji’s and curved like 66. “But then, the raid suit acted as a trigger that discover the power of science inside Sanji!!” That was the gist of the fight. Even before that Sanji has this fascinating and unnatural resistance to flame
dude he knows that he is just trolling u, isn't worth the time, relax :shocked:
 
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