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it was the same for Zoro then 😉 ?
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Zoro got a power up to compete with Luffy's Gear 5. Sanji got a power up to compete with Jinbe. There is a difference.

King race is still relevant I agree

King himself not at all.

He will remain the least relevant YC1 ever. (And the weakest)
Yeah no, weakest, least relevant YC1 is Marco the chicken
Chicken had no W, always eating Ls after Ls. A punching bag in every arc, still punching bag in offscreened battle.

How can this guy shamelessly saying King is weakest while Marco is King's punching bag

And Zoro with a shiny new super sword ? Given to him just like that ? A training tool and a sword that helped him training his haki and releasing it more freely.

‘I’m all ear
Huh? Enma was a nerf in King's battle because it was a distraction. You sound as if Zoro freely traded Sandai Kitetsu with Nidai Kitetsu which never happened.
While Luffy got Nika Nika no Mi and Sanji got Judge's bloodline awakened. There is a difference.
 
When Liffy fight a Gorosei and Admiral Alone Zoro was getting stalled by Lucci of all people, yet Now when him have his moment against a Gorosei, him will need to get Help from jimbei to deal with a Gorosei.

Now you get it the difference?.

When a Gorosei needs a Admiral or all of Five elders to deal with Luffy.

Zoro needs Jimbei help to deal with a one Gorosei, let's that sink in.
When Luffy needs 2 Giants just to run away like chicken

And Zoro doesn't need any Giant to send another Gorosei flying. Let that sink in

Even with prophecied, legendary mythical Sun God DF, Luffy is still a chicken who can't do shit against Gorosei and chose to run away. Let alone without the DF, I doubt he is even stronger than likes of Sanji.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
I don’t even know why you are arguing this

the lightning drawn is massive and bolded. It’s ACoC lightning.

Acting like Zoro never uses ACoC isn’t the W you think it is. It actually makes Zoro’s haki harder to scale.

Via his ACoC feats against Lucci and Nusjuro you can make a pretty compelling argument that KoH Zoro is top tier.
Because you ignoring what acoc actually is.
Which is coating your weapon in coc haki
Which clearly hasn't happened here or vs lucci
 
It's a much better feat for Zoro if he and Venus are both using ACoC. I don't understand why some of y'all are so insistent on Zoro not using ACoC for his feats.

In my opinion, he clearly used ACoC on Lucci and he's 100% using it on Venus. Which is an insane feat as Venus is also using it, meaning Zoro is the first person to force a Gorosei to use ACoC and still sent one of the strongest Gorosei flying in Base, whilst the Gorosei was in hybrid mode to boot.

If neither Venus nor Zoro are using ACoC, then this clash and therefore feat means absolutely nothing because neither party is trying. It's counter-productive to y'alls arguments. ACoc doesn't always have a trail on the blades, e.g. - Paradise Totsuka, Thunder Bagua, Kamusari etc... Most of the time, ACoC is represented by thick black lightning that lingers upon impact. If you have 2 ACoC users clearly struggling in a clash with thick black lightning around them, you can be 70% sure they're using ACoC.

What I really don't understand is why Oda's giving Kitetsu all this focus now but almost completely ignored the Nidai Kitetsu on Wano. Sandai is straight ass - Zoro's going up against one of the strongest blades in the world with the weakest version simply because he didn't think to take the Nidai with him.
 
When Luffy needs 2 Giants just to run away like chicken

And Zoro doesn't need any Giant to send another Gorosei flying. Let that sink in

Even with prophecied, legendary mythical Sun God DF, Luffy is still a chicken who can't do shit against Gorosei and chose to run away. Let alone without the DF, I doubt he is even stronger than likes of Sanji.
Zoro without of his Magic Oden Sword him isn't anything, loses to even Koby of all people.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Yeah no, weakest, least relevant YC1 is Marco the chicken
Chicken had no W, always eating Ls after Ls. A punching bag in every arc, still punching bag in offscreened battle.
Less relevant is Marco ?

Marco relevancy in the story :

- WB right hand man
- Introduced 800 chapters ago
- Being part of the Marineford War with a big role
- Being part of the Grudge War with BB and leading the WBP. And this is one of the two big events of the TS
- Being part of the Wano war with a small role but still had a nice impact
- Having a great relationship with Ace, Luffy bro
- keeping Sphinx island safe

Far far bigger role than King.


How can this guy shamelessly saying King is weakest while Marco is King's punching bag
About power level :

- Marco have much better feats against top tiers
- Marco was effectively leading his own crew after the MF war. It shows his portrayal in his own crew. And no YC1 for now had that kind of leadership.
- Marco was fighting with Queen and King at the same time and managed to hit them and tossing them left and right
On panel we have only scans of Marco overpowering, outspending, outskilling King and Queen. And we have on panel Marco saying fighting both was a pain and it hurt him a lot. And Marco was also helping the whole floor.

yeah WBP are stronger than BP and BMP.

Marco > Kata > King
Jozu > Queen > Smoothie
Vista > Cracker > Jack


Enma was a nerf in King's battle because it was a distraction.
Raid suit and genes awakening was a nerf in the beginning too and distracted Sanji during his fight. Exactly the same as Zoro during King.

‘And Enma soon became once again a PU when Zoro mastered the flow of haki and it helped awaken and mastering his CoC.


You sound as if Zoro freely traded Sandai Kitetsu with Nidai Kitetsu which never happened.
Zoro exchanged swords but he gained a sword that helped him being stronger and helped him awakening and mastering his COC. He couldn’t have done that as easily at all with Shisui.


No
Zoro got a power up to compete with Luffy's Gear 5. Sanji got a power up to compete with Jinbe. There is a difference.
lol that is just your headcanon here my guy
 
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