Indigo

Yellow Flash
criminals themselves would not be cursed by their miserable lives. I'm yet to see a criminal that isn't miserable in some way. Even hardcore psychopaths are miserable.
There's also plenty of super religious people cursed with miserable lives, despite following every rule in their book

that's just life

some people get the horrible end of the stick
 
mate, you said the 10 commandements were objectively moral

then i said the first one literally breaks that idea, unless you seriously believe that any person that follows any other religion is objectively immoral

which is insane
I would be insane to go against the dogma's of my faith. There is only you true god and whoever else worships false idols is obviously straying from a real relationship with the actual real deal god. Btw, the first commandant concerns the God of Abraham,so Jews and Muslims are excluded from this sin.
 

Indigo

Yellow Flash
I would be insane to go against the dogma's of my faith. There is only you true god and whoever else worships false idols is obviously straying from a real relationship with the actual real deal god. Btw, the first commandant concerns the God of Abraham,so Jews and Muslims are excluded from this sin.
are you saying all others are objectively immoral?
 
There's also plenty of super religious people cursed with miserable lives, despite following every rule in their book

that's just life

some people get the horrible end of the stick
True, but that doesn't prove your point either. We are hardwired to be in constant anxiety about the future. Doing bad shit to other people doesn't help you in any way. You multiply your enemies and you objectively make the world a even more miserable place. Isn't stupid wars like Ukraine making life harder for everyone?
 
No

Now that's some fatalistic bs. That's not how it works fluffy.
Care to elaborate? You guys might be thinking this is all fun and games,but following you logic we should respect people like Herrera, because if morality isn't objective, then its all a matter of opinion and so that guy should be allowed to talk stuff like that.
 
When I first interacted with you you were an atheist that lamented getting beat up by his parents for not going to church.
False,i have been a christian since 2017. I joined this forum in 2021.
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man, that's sad

i can kinda relate, but on a much smaller scale, not even close to compare
Don't listen to this motherfucker. He likes to troll my ass. I explained my reasons for being an atheist till my early 20s here and one of the reasons was the behavior of other religious people. He is cherry picking shit,taking it out of context to mock me like he always does. Supposedly,cyberluing is against the forum rules. But some people can get away with if they are popular around here.
 
Care to elaborate? You guys might be thinking this is all fun and games,but following you logic we should respect people like Herrera, because if morality isn't objective, then its all a matter of opinion and so that guy should be allowed to talk stuff like that.
Bruh


In your mind respecting religious plurality = advocating for pedophilia? ?

Are you drunk?
 

Indigo

Yellow Flash
Care to elaborate? You guys might be thinking this is all fun and games,but following you logic we should respect people like Herrera, because if morality isn't objective, then its all a matter of opinion and so that guy should be allowed to talk stuff like that.
we're on a forum made by a select group of people, and they have set rules and conditions for us to use their free service

one of those rules is not doing whatever the fuck Herrera was doing

so in the space we're in, he shouldn't be followed and should be banned

we can have our own opinions about morality and i will say that most, but not all, people would see what Herrera was talking about as morally wrong

but there's no such thing as objective morality

i agree with AL's definition

there's the mass morality, not objective

the majority, the people in power and the setting of the situation, kinda defines the morality at that place

there's no objective version

that's why back in the day, something like slavery was seen as moral, because it was the majority and the people in power making that decision
 
then you just agreed that the 10 commandments aren't objectively moral

if you are saying someone breaking the first is not immoral
Wrong, everyone is a sinner. Everyone is immoral. Being Christian,Muslim or Jew doesn't make one automatically good. A real Christian recognizes the inherent evil in all of us. Following the teaches of Christ makes it possible to live a moral life,if you don't you probably gonna fail the test. You are either not familiar with Abrahamic religions or you talking in bad faith.
 
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