Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1119 Spoilers Discussion

Hakai vs (Nika×Cyborg)


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It's not only that though, well before he died to a bunch of no named fodders, he got bullied by just 1 of Kinkaku or Ginkaku since it was a 2v2 fight with the Raikage fighting beside him. So this single reason doesn't fly. Tobirama was always intended to be the weakest Hokage.
Tobirama was way more impressive than Hiruzen, and he must be somewhat close to EMS Sasuke given how Sasuke reacted to his aura
 
Sanji fans be honest. Do yall think Oda would put Zoro in this situation?
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Yeah, and like we saw vs Kaido, Gear 5 Luffy has nigh invulnerability until he runs out of stamina. It’s a significantly more powerful Luffy that still says the attacks hurt. Only Bonneys and Sanjis actually hurt him too

I agree, bad look, but it isn’t horrific.
It should hurt at least lol. I’m curious about the panels because if Bonney and Franky used haki it’s an asspull.
 

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Sanji fans be honest. Do yall think Oda would put Zoro in this situation?
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It should hurt at least lol. I’m curious about the panels because if Bonney and Franky used haki it’s an asspull.
Bonneys hand is black confirmed
 
It's not only that though, well before he died to a bunch of no named fodders, he got bullied by just 1 of Kinkaku or Ginkaku since it was a 2v2 fight with the Raikage fighting beside him. So this single reason doesn't fly. Tobirama was always intended to be the weakest Hokage.
Tobirama is nowhere near the weakest Hokage based on his war arc feats

As Shiroryu said the same logic you used would apply to Hashirama as well

Which legendary shinobi took him down? None that we've heard of

The 3rd Raikage alone held off 10,000 shinobi so who would be capable of taking down Hashirama?

It's all plot based
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Tobirama was way more impressive than Hiruzen, and he must be somewhat close to EMS Sasuke given how Sasuke reacted to his aura
I love Tobirama but Kishi doesn't know what he wants. Hiruzen was hyped as the strongest, 4th was hyped as the strongest, and First was hyped as the strongest at one point. Tobirama never, but then he got that EMS Sasuke and Orochimaru dunk
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Tobirama is nowhere near the weakest Hokage based on his war arc feats

As Shiroryu said the same logic you used would apply to Hashirama as well

Which legendary shinobi took him down? None that we've heard of
Lmao what? Tobirama lost to Kinkaku. And then died to 20 no named fodders. Hashirama died to old age or something along those lines 😂
 

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I love Tobirama but Kishi doesn't know what he wants. Hiruzen was hyped as the strongest, 4th was hyped as the strongest, and First was hyped as the strongest at one point. Tobirama never, but then he got that EMS Sasuke and Orochimaru dunk
Yup, this is why Naruto powerscaling is all over the place.
 
Lmao what? Tobirama lost to Kinkaku. And then died to 20 no named fodders. Hashirama died to old age or something along those lines 😂
Hashirama and Tobirama were incredibly close in age with Hashirama being the best medical ninjutsu user in history even surpassing Tsunade

How would old age kill him when according to the timeline he would've been in his 40's or 50's at worst?
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Hashirama and Tobirama were incredibly close in age with Hashirama being the best medical ninjutsu user in history even surpassing Tsunade

How would old age kill him when according to the timeline he would've been in his 40's or 50's at worst?
Listen brother, Hashirama doesn't have a loss to Kinkaku (and then later 20 fodders) on his record. His death is a complete unknown, he could have died to AIDs.
 
Sanji fans be honest. Do yall think Oda would put Zoro in this situation?
There a lot of situations in this arc where you could ask the same question, and they still happened that way

"Oda wouldn't have Zoro taking 20 chapters against Lucci"

oops...

You're just gonna find ways to downplay Sanji dude, its okay. If Sanji literally yeted Mars to the space by himself you would say Mars isn't that much impressive or that you expected more of Sanji's attack because it apparently did no damage other than push Mars away ( even if its stated that the gorosei heal from anything, Luffy literally stated this again this chapter), you have literally done this multiple times before

You literally have Kaido using the best of his abilities being portraited as complete memes against Gear 5, this is your "strongest pirate" :suresure:

Why should sanji fans and their mothers take you seriously now? Convince me bozo
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I love Tobirama but Kishi doesn't know what he wants. Hiruzen was hyped as the strongest, 4th was hyped as the strongest, and First was hyped as the strongest at one point. Tobirama never, but then he got that EMS Sasuke and Orochimaru dunk
New lore overrides old lore, so we've got to stick with Tobirama's War arc portrayal
 
There a lot of situations in this arc where you could ask the same question, and they still happened that way

"Oda wont make Zoro take 20 chapters against Lucci"

oops...

You're just gonna find ways to downplay Sanji dude, its okay. If Sanji literally yeted Mars to the space by himself you would say Mars isn't that much impressive or that you expected more of Sanji's attack because it apparently did no damage other than push Mars away ( even if its stated that the gorosei heal from anything, Luffy literally stated this again this chapter), you have literally done this multiple times before

You have literally Kaido using the best of his abilities being portraited as complete memes against Gear 5, this is your "strongest pirate" :suresure:

Why should i take you seriously now? Convince me bozo
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I don’t think anyone here thinks I’m downplaying Sanji except you. There is no way Sanji’s strongest attack to date with Bonney in Nika form should do virtually nothing to Luffy. You’re not a Sanji fan if you think that’s ok. lol I don’t like Sanji and I think this is terrible. Also you didn’t answer the question :gokulaugh:
 
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