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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Old Garp was rag dolling Aokiji and fighting fodders and Teach Commanders all off screen according to Zenzu that's why we got this :
Okay lol? Law fought Fujitora and Doflamingo both at once. What does that prove? Nothing. Law is still far weaker than both.

Garp fighting multiple commanders (who should be fodder to him) and Kuzan at once wouldn’t prove anything about old Garp’s power level.

Kuzan matched old Garp without his fruit ffs lmfao.
 
These panels have Kuzan no where in them. It's clear he sent Kuzan flying away. Means everytime Kuzan and Garp stopped clashing fodders would jump in.
It's still headcanon , and tbh it's the same for me either it was Garp vs Aokiji + Others or Garp vs Aokiji and then others .
Since it's embrassing and like i said to @Kurozumi Wiwi , it's a cycle of rag dolling without that Shit-ryu's stab .
Funnily enough , without shit-yu's intervention you would still have this :


Rag dolling Aokiji, dealing with Teach commanders , dealing with fodders and the cycle continues which is embrassing asf :


You should thank Shit-yu for weakening Garp that much for Kuzan to have an equal clash against a hardened punch from Old weakened Garp , and it's funny since Garp was never said to have been weakened despite your off screen Garp's bleeding until the stab .
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We know they can't keep up with them mid blitzes and punching, you saw how much force that created. Both speed and power there's no room for those fodders.

But it does make Garp more impressive, people think Garp fell to 1 stab and a couple attacks, when in reality Garp took many more attacks offpanel against Kuzan
They only said Garp was WEAKENED until the stab did effect , beforehand it's just a cycle of rag dolling and no one believed in that Aokiji's weakening effect that you try to pull off .


" This Old man is Crazy "
" How does he stand against so many without losing "
 
Okay lol? Law fought Fujitora and Doflamingo both at once. What does that prove? Nothing. Law is still far weaker than both.

Garp fighting multiple commanders (who should be fodder to him) and Kuzan at once wouldn’t prove anything about old Garp’s power level.

Kuzan matched old Garp without his fruit ffs lmfao.
Law never overwhelmed or beat Issho or Doffy, ridiculous false equivalence. Garp factually beat the shit out of Sanjuan, Pizarro, the ugly inbred dude who drinks a lot, etc. while also overwhelming Kuzan
 
Okay lol? Law fought Fujitora and Doflamingo both at once. What does that prove? Nothing. Law is still far weaker than both.
Law didn't fight shit, he ran away for his life .
Garp fighting multiple commanders (who should be fodder to him) and Kuzan at once wouldn’t prove anything about old Garp’s power level.
Yes , it does since it weakens his stamina further ;

Aside the fact that , it proved a cycle of rag doll :


× Rag dolling aokiji , Teach commanders , Army of fodders and the cycle continues .
Kuzan matched old Garp without his fruit ffs lmfao.
He coated his punch in Ice , tf are you reading ?
Kuzan matched with his Punch coated in Ice an old WEAKENED garp's Hardened punch .
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
It's still headcanon , and tbh it's the same for me either it was Garp vs Aokiji + Others or Garp vs Aokiji and then others .
Since it's embrassing and like i said to @Kurozumi Wiwi , it's a cycle of rag dolling without that Shit-ryu's stab .


They only said Garp was WEAKENED until the stab did effect , beforehand it's just a cycle of rag dolling and no one believed in that Aokiji's weakening effect that you try to pull off .


" This Old man is Crazy "
" How does he stand against so many without losing "
Idk what your point is?
>Garp was fighting everyone
>Fodders could not keep up with Kuzan and Garp's attacks

Both things can be true. Fodders as well as Garp found pockets to fight, they obviously can't throw attacks at Garp while he's blitzing Kuzan and vice versa, it took Shiryu to attack Coby to have a say in the fight.
 
Okay lol? Law fought Fujitora and Doflamingo both at once. What does that prove? Nothing. Law is still far weaker than both.

Garp fighting multiple commanders (who should be fodder to him) and Kuzan at once wouldn’t prove anything about old Garp’s power level.

Kuzan matched old Garp without his fruit ffs lmfao.
I think what makes it notable is that the time it takes Garp to handle the fodder and commanders would have been spent keeping up the pressure on Kuzan in more neutral circumstances.

Basically, the situation they were in forced Garp to give up on potential follow up attacks each time he overpowered Kuzan. We have to remember that he was also securing an escape route for defenceless people in chains here. He couldn't afford to let any pirate slip past.
 
Idk what your point is?
>Garp was fighting everyone
>Fodders could not keep up with Kuzan and Garp's attacks

Both things can be true. Fodders as well as Garp found pockets to fight, they obviously can't throw attacks at Garp while he's blitzing Kuzan and vice versa, it took Shiryu to attack Coby to have a say in the fight.
My point is clear, Garp was rag dolling Aokiji and dealing with Fodders and Teach commanders which further weakened his stamina and he was still up against these so many fellas without losing a step ; Fodders weren't having any hope of winning as the cycle of rag dolling would have continued if not for the stab that weakened him hard then Aokiji finally got an equal clash against an Old Weakened Garp's no named hardened punch.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Garp factually beat the shit out of Sanjuan, Pizarro, the ugly inbred dude who drinks a lot
Who cares lol. Top tiers beating up high tiers is run of the mill.

Never once happened. Garp and Kuzan were completely equal for the 20 minutes they fought.

Kuzan can fight against an equal for 10 days. Garp couldn’t fight against an equal for 20 minutes.

Law didn't fight shit, he ran away for his life .
No, he definitely fought them both lmfao. They were literally shaking Green Bit for several minutes. Fighting multiple opponents stronger than you, briefly, is easily possible.

And that’s exactly what Garp did. He styled on a bunch of high tiers while evenly matching fruitless emotionally compromised Kuzan for 20 minutes.

Yes , it does since it weakens his stamina further ;
Yeah Garp’s stamina was atrocious. Aokiji fought Akainu for 10 days, Garp couldn’t fight fruitless Kuzan for 20 minutes.

He coated his punch in Ice , tf are you reading
TF does that even accomplish lmfao? Prime Aokiji literally matched prime Garp’s punching power with no fruit.

Kuzan matched with his Punch coated in Ice an old WEAKENED garp's Hardened punch .
Kuzan himself is horribly out of shape. He factually has not trained for two years, and he was emotionally compromised against his old master anyway as the canon stressed.

It is an established fact that fruitless Aokiji punches as hard as prime Garp. In terms of pure power level fruitless Aokiji beats Beehive Garp high diff lol.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
My point is clear, Garp was rag dolling Aokiji and dealing with Fodders and Teach commanders which further weakened his stamina and he was still up against these so many fellas without losing a step ; Fodders weren't having any hope of winning as the cycle of rag dolling would have continued if not for the stab that weakened him hard then Aokiji finally got an equal clash against an Old Weakened Garp's no named hardened punch.
Alright lol? I don't think Kuzan was going all out, that was my point from the start. He was being hesitant and he also may have a far deeper bag that he wasn't using.

Whatever took place on Hachinosu was enough effort from Kuzan to take Garp down, hesitating and BBP included.
 
No, he definitely fought them both lmfao. They were literally shaking Green Bit for several minutes. Fighting multiple opponents stronger than you, briefly, is easily possible.
He didn't fight anyone , he tried to run away to keep his stamina up .
And that’s exactly what Garp did. He styled on a bunch of high tiers while evenly matching fruitless emotionally compromised Kuzan for 20 minutes.
Headcanons, Garp was rag dolling Aokiji and dealing with army of fodders and Teach commanders and protecting Coby and his friends .


Yeah Garp’s stamina was atrocious. Aokiji fought Akainu for 10 days, Garp couldn’t fight fruitless Kuzan for 20 minutes.
Fr , but it makes him good since the cycle of rag dolling continues and even fodders didn't believe in Aokiji since they knew he gets rag dolled at each clash with or without their help :


Thanks for shit-ryu's stab, Finally Aokiji got some crumbs an equal clash against a no named hardened punch from an Already Weakened Old Garp against a punch coated in his DF .
TF does that even accomplish lmfao? Prime Aokiji literally matched prime Garp’s punching power with no fruit.
Thanks for shit-ryu's stab, Finally Aokiji got some crumbs an equal clash against a no named hardened punch from an Already Weakened Old Garp against a punch coated in his DF .
Kuzan himself is horribly out of shape. He factually has not trained for two years, and he was emotionally compromised against his old master anyway as the canon stressed.
Headcanons, He used his DF and matched an old weakened Garp's no named hardened punch .
It is an established fact that fruitless Aokiji punches as hard as prime Garp. In terms of pure power level fruitless Aokiji beats Garp high diff lol.
 
Alright lol? I don't think Kuzan was going all out, that was my point from the start. He was being hesitant and he also may have a far deeper bag that he wasn't using.

Whatever took place on Hachinosu was enough effort from Kuzan to take Garp down, hesitating and BBP included.
It's still portrayed Garp on another level than Aokiji lmao 😹 , if he didn't have a stamina issues Blud would be making aokiji seeing stars.

Blud was bandaged from head to abdomen 😂
 
Who cares lol. Top tiers beating up high tiers is run of the mill.
Lol, dumb ass
Never once happened. Garp and Kuzan were completely equal for the 20 minutes they fought.

Kuzan can fight against an equal for 10 days. Garp couldn’t fight against an equal for 20 minutes.
1. Blue Hole
2. After he got stabbed and blitzed Kuzan, knocking him down before nearly splitting Pizarro's skull open like an egg.
And that's not even including what could have happened off screen.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
It is an established fact that fruitless Aokiji punches as hard as prime Garp. In terms of pure power level fruitless Aokiji beats Beehive Garp high diff lol.
You're running away with a half truth again.
Fruitless Aokiji does not punch as hard as Prime Garp, what Battleship Bags established is that no DF, no Haki Aokiji can punch as hard as no Haki Prime Garp.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
It's still portrayed Garp on another level than Aokiji lmao 😹 , if he didn't have a stamina issues Blud would be making aokiji seeing stars.
No because Oda kept making sure the audience understood Aokiji was hesitating. That and the potential that Kuzan is awakened.

If not for those 2 things you'd be correct.
Blud was bandaged from head to abdomen 😂
What's wrong with that? He was eating Garp's adcoc laced attacks.

Garp was defeated, it's not like he lost and came out like that.
 
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