Le Fishe Thread Reality check for otakus- successful combat athletes in real life are exactly like Eustass Kid, whereas the losers are like Shanks
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"my fave fictional character beat your fave fictional character" are the only wins people like you will ever get in life
now keep emulating your idol luffy by remaining a jobless idiot
now keep emulating your idol luffy by remaining a jobless idiot
Hey, Sugoi.
Have you ever heard about Yip Man, Bruce Lee's master?
He was an extremely kind person and an absolute beast in martial arts.
If you have some time, watch the Yip Man movies.
You will see that a real strong man can also have a gentle personality.
From what i read, it seems like you really that is exactly the point that you do not like in Shanks
Give it a honest try
Have you ever heard about Yip Man, Bruce Lee's master?
He was an extremely kind person and an absolute beast in martial arts.
If you have some time, watch the Yip Man movies.
You will see that a real strong man can also have a gentle personality.
From what i read, it seems like you really that is exactly the point that you do not like in Shanks
Give it a honest try
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"the hurting innocents" part is way too exaggerated by fans. Oda had to make him a bit "savage" because otherwise he would be too similar to luffy. Kid is basically Luffy if he didn't care about being a hero (even if oda tries to say luffy isnt a hero, he obviously is). The main scene is in sabaody when kid is suprised that luffys says he wants to be PK, since everyone laughs at that. The series has showed how people mock roger and mock people that have dreams, like bellamy did.
These are the worst people to surround yourself with in real life too. There is nothing worse than bums that dont do anything which then criticise anyone else for having any sort of ambition. Or people that try make you feel bad for something you are passionate about. Kid kills those people. (obviously applying real life standards to this, its excessive to kill, but this is a damn pirate manga, hes not killing normal civilians like a normal pirate would he's killing the dickhead civilians).
Kind people can be strong if they have gone through conflict, pain and struggle. Shanks does not go through anything, simple waddling around and meeting new friends isnt making anyone strong.
That is fine if the "nice" person is shown to be someone that trains hard, has been through struggle, and deserves that strength. The way Toriyama does it with goku is great. Goku is a kind person but hes not strong just because that, he strong because hes training, passion and grit. Toriyama respects vegetas strength as he also has those qualities, but gives goku the edge as hes more humble and willing to take advice from others ect...
This is not the case with Oda. Kid is the one going through all the fights and struggle while shanks is just nice guy. Personality>hard work is a stupid unrealistic message
These are the worst people to surround yourself with in real life too. There is nothing worse than bums that dont do anything which then criticise anyone else for having any sort of ambition. Or people that try make you feel bad for something you are passionate about. Kid kills those people. (obviously applying real life standards to this, its excessive to kill, but this is a damn pirate manga, hes not killing normal civilians like a normal pirate would he's killing the dickhead civilians).
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Hey, Sugoi.
Have you ever heard about Yip Man, Bruce Lee's master?
He was an extremely kind person and an absolute beast in martial arts.
If you have some time, watch the Yip Man movies.
You will see that a real strong man can also have a gentle personality.
From what i read, it seems like you really that is exactly the point that you do not like in Pranks
Give it a honest try
Have you ever heard about Yip Man, Bruce Lee's master?
He was an extremely kind person and an absolute beast in martial arts.
If you have some time, watch the Yip Man movies.
You will see that a real strong man can also have a gentle personality.
From what i read, it seems like you really that is exactly the point that you do not like in Pranks
Give it a honest try
Kind people can be strong if they have gone through conflict, pain and struggle. Shanks does not go through anything, simple waddling around and meeting new friends isnt making anyone strong.
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You're right, most people who succeed in real life, especially in the example you used, are usually arrogant and despicable. But this is a fantasy manga, which tries to make a good portrayal of nice people (not just by making them look right, but also by making them strong leaders or even world changing characters). This is pretty obvious, since pirates in real life are just crooks (thieves, pillagers, kidnappers, etc.)... no wonder Kid met his end at the hands of a "Peace Main" (see below).
This is not the case with Oda. Kid is the one going through all the fights and struggle while shanks is just nice guy. Personality>hard work is a stupid unrealistic message
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Hey, Sugoi.
Have you ever heard about Yip Man, Bruce Lee's master?
He was an extremely kind person and an absolute beast in martial arts.
If you have some time, watch the Yip Man movies.
You will see that a real strong man can also have a gentle personality.
From what i read, it seems like you really that is exactly the point that you do not like in Pranks
Give it a honest try
Have you ever heard about Yip Man, Bruce Lee's master?
He was an extremely kind person and an absolute beast in martial arts.
If you have some time, watch the Yip Man movies.
You will see that a real strong man can also have a gentle personality.
From what i read, it seems like you really that is exactly the point that you do not like in Pranks
Give it a honest try
The plots at least are. Though I guess Donnie Yen’s portrayal of him could be accurate
No I don’t think that stuff about him fighting a Japanese general was real.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ip_Man_(film)
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ip_Man_(film)
Honestly i agree that Kid's willpower and stubborness is appealing, it's basically Luffy's but with less childlike innocence but also no mc plot armor.
But trying to downplay Shanks is just downright saltiness at this point, hell we don't even exactly know what his "mentality" is.
Shanks to me is someone who is trying to emulate Roger, who given everything we've seen so far, would be a person who knows when to be kind, warm and not just pick fights randomly, but also when to be assertive, protect the innocent and not hesitate to fight for the right reason.
Why is that bad?, part of Luffy's character growth back in Drum, Alabasta and Jaya was exactly to learn that sometimes a captain has to be diplomatic and that picking fights with everyone isn't always worth it.
But trying to downplay Shanks is just downright saltiness at this point, hell we don't even exactly know what his "mentality" is.
Shanks to me is someone who is trying to emulate Roger, who given everything we've seen so far, would be a person who knows when to be kind, warm and not just pick fights randomly, but also when to be assertive, protect the innocent and not hesitate to fight for the right reason.
Why is that bad?, part of Luffy's character growth back in Drum, Alabasta and Jaya was exactly to learn that sometimes a captain has to be diplomatic and that picking fights with everyone isn't always worth it.
