Powers & Abilities Is it safe to say the admirals don't have CoC?

Do the admirals have CoC?


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#82
We literally was black lighning from all directions and a dome shaped aura over both Aokiji and Garp.
Okay? We see haki from all directions any time Garp does a haki attack, the black lightning is from Garp and the white frost is from Aokiji.

And it wasn't even a clash either, it was just them punching each other in the face, so it means nothing.
 
#84
Okay? We see haki from all directions any time Garp does a haki attack, the black lightning is from Garp and the white frost is from Aokiji.

And it wasn't even a clash either, it was just them punching each other in the face, so it means nothing.
No, in a 1vs1 when only one Is using haki, the lightning come clearly just from one of the two:



There we saw lightining from all directions.
 
#86

All directions

Aokiji is a devil fruit merchant with decent physical strength, his haki is shit though and borderline non existent.
This Is literally the same situation.

All the lightning came from Katakur's Attack and you can see the all of them are in lne direction only.

On the contrary, in Garp and Aokiji' case you can see then from both sides:

 
#88
An overpowered fruit.
We don't know if he had that since before or got it now. Maybe he was using some other sword.

We don't even know if WG is the one who gave DF to Fujitora and Aramaki.
They were directly indicted as admiral from world draft , Akainu/Aokiji/Kizaru got their Fruit when they were already vice admiral.
Aramki has Is fruit since 3 years ago at least btw.
 
#89
This Is literally the same situation.

All the lightning came from Katakur's Attack and you can see the all of them are in lne direction only.

On the contrary, in Garp and Aokiji' case you can see then from both sides:

They're pretty much the exact same.

Garp is making the lightning, Aokiji is making the white frost

Hakiman vs fruit merchant.
 
#91
They're pretty much the exact same.

Garp is making the lightning, Aokiji is making the white frost

Hakiman vs fruit merchant.
More than show It, I cannot do.

In one case all the lightnings came from one direction, half on the screen Is empty of them. On the other you can see that they came both from the left and the right.
 
#92
More than show It, I cannot do.

In one case all the lightnings came from one direction, half on the screen Is empty of them. On the other you can see that they came both from the left and the right.
Let it go bro, Admirals are just fruit merchants, but that's ok, they're still strong.
 
#93
Let it go bro, Admirals are just fruit merchants, but that's ok, they're still strong.
Btw I am not saying haki Is their focus anyway, at least for some of them.

But we'll see, I hope, if we don't die of old age in the meantime with the presente chapters relase/plot advancment ratio.
 
#94
An overpowered fruit.
We don't know if he had that since before or got it now. Maybe he was using some other sword.

We don't even know if WG is the one who gave DF to Fujitora and Aramaki.
They were directly indicted as admiral from world draft , Akainu/Aokiji/Kizaru got their Fruit when they were already vice admiral.
- What does that have anything to do with the sword. Because he chooses to use his DF through his sword, because that's his weapon... he now only has a supreme blade because of the DF??? What?????
- Mihawk/Roger/Newgate/Nusjuro all have ACoC as supreme blade users. Fujitora who has one of them as well, will have it. That is the importance of a supreme blade and the symbol of power it represents.

It doesn't matter who gave him the DF. It's implied he was testing out his DF at Dressrosa. Which he would only do if he recently got it.




There are two other persons in the series with an OP DF & A supreme blade... Edward Newgate & Nusjuro. Both have insane Haki.
 
#98
Large elemental produced mediums cannot be coated in haki.
Not a single evidence for this exists.
Coincidentally, no logia user has ever be confirmed to be capable of CoC coating.
And no future logia user will likely ever have aCoC.
Seems like there is a pattern here.
Katakuri and Kuzan both combined armament haki with their logia abilities. Conquerors haki just increases the power of the attack so obviously it's plausible that a logia could do so too.

I think the pattern isn't a matter of fruit type but a matter of personality. Most of the admirals aren't befitting of CoC. Only a couple at most.
 
#99
Mihawk , Roger , Nasujuro (a Zoan user).
WB had AdCoC but relied mostly on DF only.
Only description for his weapon was it was able to withstand all the power of Whitebeard , which was his DF.
You don't necessarily have to be a AdCoC user to be a supreme grade wielder.
The purpose is al together very different.
Fujitora uses sword to project his DF powers.
CoC is possible but AdCoC is not.

Nasujuro is a zoan user.
And Whitebeard and Fujitora falls under same caregory.
Whitebeard though having AdCoC like bigmam. Is a DF merchant.
-Nusjuro mostly relies on his DF and regen... still has ACoC. Bringing up that he's a zoan is of no relevance, as Zoans also get unique abilities, especially mythical ones that are insanely powerful if not more powerful than most of the paramecia and logia introduced.
- Whitebeard's power was his DF + Haki, not just his DF.
- There are 4 other Supreme Blade users, they all have ACoC... the standard established by Oda thus far indicates you do need ACoC to be a supreme blade user. Just as its needed for the strongest of the 21 graded sword, Enma. Then Momo refusing Habakiri because he thinks he can't handle it. Supreme Blades are symbols of power, and one of the powers they symbolize is ACoC.
- Fujitora uses his sword for DF + Haki, just as Newgate. He uses his DF to enhance his swordskills, just as Nusjuro transforms to increase his swordskills.


Notice the scene related to Newgate being able to channel his fullpower through his supreme blade is referring specifically to his ACoC clash, not DF.


Garp has it, Sengoku will have it, Kuzan has it, Saka has it, Issho has it, only ones left debatable are Aramaki & Borsalino. The fact all the other people have it, would lead me to believe Aramaki and Borsalino have it as well. The likelihood a top tier doesn't have ACoC is very low.
 
My brother in christ. WRITING paragraph won't help you.

- Nasujuro is Zoan user. Haki is well integrated in that.

- WB and Fujitora uses Weapon to use their fruit. WB has only one/two Haki feat in the whole series.

- WB didn't even bother to use Haki against Ace in ace novel.

- Normal haki lightening is obvious when they clash with Haki user but majorly they will only use DF.

- and No brother. It's for the scene but the weapon and DF powers. He has more Chances of using a DF attack with Weapon than haki.

WB was a conqueror to begin with. Fujitora isn't.

He will have strong enough haki , But Advanced Conqueror Coating is out of his reach.

Supreme Grade Blade does not equals to Advanced Conqueror Coating.
I didn't write a paragraph lol.

- Haki is integrated in paramecia well.
- Because we've only seen Primebeard once. And Fujitora used haki multiple times.
- He can't hit a logia without using Haki
- I've never seen this many bad mental gymnastics my brotha. Oda specifically uses the scene of Roger & Newgate's clash to highlight their Supreme Blades, when he could've given them solo panels like Mihawk and the Shodai. In that he states the Naginata is durable enough to handle Newgate's power... and what is his power ACoC & the gura gura...
- Lol. I don't even know what "to begin with" means, when we didn't even know Newgate was a conqueror during his introduction, we found that out through Marco saying he was at Marineford. The man didn't even use basic CoC. Fujitora already showed CoC at Dressrosa, unless you think Fujitora can make Vice Admirals shiver and fall down without touching them with just words? lol.


Mihawk - Supreme blade, ACoC
Nusjuro - Supreme blade ACoC
Roger - Supreme blade ACoC
Newgate - Supreme blade ACoC

you trying to bring up DFs or other non-factors pointlessly is just wasting your time. Now the admiral with the strongest zodiac symbol, Tiger, is confirmed to have a supreme blade. Said admiral already showcasing CoC at Dressrosa.... but you believe he won't have it.
 
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