Speculations Sanji's BBP opponent still be weaker than King

Sanji's BBP Opponent vs King


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MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
Can Jack casually spam a technique strong enough to defeat a Tobi Roppo?

Has Jack shown any kind of technique allegedly capable of crushing the whole body of even busoshoku masters?

Does Jack have any answer to invisibility plus electricity plus beams plus an enhanced body all at once?

Is Jack, who was severely slashed by Ashura Doji, keeping up with minor bruises against the right hand man of Whitebeard?

Is Jack getting no damage from a rain of arrows from Perospero, the fighter who was about to defeat in a few minutes the same base Nekomamushi who could fight Jack himself for twelve hours?

Also, "ranking for crew" is enough here. A Queen is more powerful than a Jack.
jack never showcased any techniques that needs to spam to beat the tobiroppo he was confident enough he could defeat all of them this was further proven when Jack was beating 2 dukes together, fought evenly against the strongest Ashura, ought for 5 day straight agaisnt the minks who each got minimum 11hrs of rest each round, suffered minimal wounds from the battleship with Issho, Sengoku and Tsuru..

CoA masters who is aCoA master that Queen actually fought again? & what did Queen do agaisnt those CoA masters that make him seem so strong... ?

what does invincibility have to do with jack>queen? better yet outside of FS users who actually has an answer for inViCiBiLiTY... because i dont recall queen having any counter to it... ? without Queen being a scientist modifying his own body what exactly does he have?

lmfao severly slashed by Ashura you mean the papercut JAck got while in base on the back of his crocodile that he was riding... iirc he was unphased and then in his weakest form overpowered doji then ashura had to go all out to slash him again in his weakest form being in base both using no haki.. i hardly call that a severly slash.

why would Jack suffer minor injuries from Marco who scales below both Issho and Sengoku possibly even Tsurur who JAck faced all 3 and suffered minimal injures from to begin with..

lmfao you mean the same neko who was beat and battered after fighting kaido and had to catch pero off guard and immediately fight outside in the moonlight, who still low diffed Pero... Pero didnt almost beat Neko not even close not sure what fight you read or watched.. pero almost lost to carrot in suong ho jack treated like nothing well majority of the minks and was only overpowered when they all went sulong and jumoed him. & what exactly do those rain of arrows have that can actually pierce through Jack in hybrid of mammoth form?

once again outside of rank what exactly has queen showcased feat wise that actually separates queen from jack
This ranking is enough lmao, why would Oda place a weaker character lower in the hierarchy, with a lower bounty, who defers respect?

If you want to talk feats, we could but let's not discredit crew ranking as a greater portrayed than any for strength ranking
Shiryuu is ranked higher than Aokiji within their crew but we all know that isnt true.... so no creew ranking doesnt mean much, i mean we have Buggy outranking bith mihawk and croc to the world hes stronger but we all know it isnt true..

so again tell me why crew ranking means so much again?

but sure lets sidsucss feats what has queen done that would rank queen superior over jack?
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
Ranking for crew is more than enough 💀 💀

Queen terrifies Jack and he bows before him

Idk how OP "readers" can look at the calamities, based off a deck of cards and think to themselves "Oda totally wants us to think Jack is the second strongest"
jack refers to queen and king as older brothers that he respects... he isnt goign to go against them this was showcased,, talk about "reading" hmm did kaido once ever reer to jack as strong or capable of pulling anything off that jack was sent to do? would queen even attempt to free Joker with the same conditions, would jack have ran in terror from bm when she regained conciousness ?
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
Sanji is a wing to the Pirate King that will surpass Roger. You are underestimating how especial the SHP are.
in what aspect would they surpass the PK and you do realize it is LUFY who will surpass the PK Roger not the entire crew... do you think Chopper is going to surpass Crocus, or Zoro will surpass Rayleigh unles Mihawk>>Rayleigh
 
Do you have any feats from Queen that are better than Jacks? Y’all are neglecting to provide feats.
What feats would count to you?
-Characters say Queens Snake attack would crush even CoA masters.
-Queen uses lasers which characters keep pointing out they are extremely dangerous such as Franky, BM and Zoro, so Jack would die pretty easily against Queens lasers.
-Queen knocked down Big Mom
-tanking everything with just bruises at most up until Sanji fought him
-And then portrayal. Oda gave him nearly 300m higher bounty than Katakuri and 70m higher than Marco. These are 2 FMs of other Yonkou, 1 of who the WG considered making a yonkou after Whitebeard died. Why would Oda put him so high and close to Kings bounty 1.32b vs 1.39b if he was so much weaker?
 
What feats would count to you?
-Characters say Queens Snake attack would crush even CoA masters.
-Queen uses lasers which characters keep pointing out they are extremely dangerous such as Franky, BM and Zoro, so Jack would die pretty easily against Queens lasers.
-Queen knocked down Big Mom
-tanking everything with just bruises at most up until Sanji fought him
-And then portrayal. Oda gave him nearly 300m higher bounty than Katakuri and 70m higher than Marco. These are 2 FMs of other Yonkou, 1 of who the WG considered making a yonkou after Whitebeard died. Why would Oda put him so high and close to Kings bounty 1.32b vs 1.39b if he was so much weaker?
A feat is something that he did in the story. If you asked me for feats from Jack I’d give you the following:

1. He solo (the fodder don’t really matter) Zou fight for a very extended period of time while Neko and Inu got to rest. Showing the highest endurance on the beast pirates.

2. Fought an army of Sulong Minks

3. Destroyed marine warships while dealing with and admiral and former FA.

Queen crushing Sanji is a shit feat considering Bergo cracked his leg. He had worse endurance losing to a few attacks. His lasers didn’t damage anyone important while Jack took the limbs of the strongest Minks. Saying Zoro or Big Mom would die from Queens laser makes no sense when Zoro didn’t die from hakai and Big Mom took Puncture Willie and Kidds rail gun. Big Mom has been knocked down by plenty of weak characters that’s not a feat. Jack tanked more than Queen.

Portrayal isn’t a feat.
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who are the fucking COA. masters you all keep spouting but cant name?
I’ll tell you who they are, Nobody.
 
A feat is something that he did in the story. If you asked me for feats from Jack I’d give you the following:

1. He solo (the fodder don’t really matter) Zou fight for a very extended period of time while Neko and Inu got to rest. Showing the highest endurance on the beast pirates.

2. Fought an army of Sulong Minks

3. Destroyed marine warships while dealing with and admiral and former FA.

Queen crushing Sanji is a shit feat considering Bergo cracked his leg. He had worse endurance losing to a few attacks. His lasers didn’t damage anyone important while Jack took the limbs of the strongest Minks. Saying Zoro or Big Mom would die from Queens laser makes no sense when Zoro didn’t die from hakai and Big Mom took Puncture Willie and Kidds rail gun. Big Mom has been knocked down by plenty of weak characters that’s not a feat. Jack tanked more than Queen.

Portrayal isn’t a feat.
Yeah, you're not worth taking seriously. Vergo, really? Ignoring Sanji's exoskeleton boost from wano? Ignoring Zoro saying he can't block lasers? Apparently Jack is tankier and stronger than Kaido too based on feats.
 
Yeah, you're not worth taking seriously. Vergo, really? Ignoring Sanji's exoskeleton boost from wano? Ignoring Zoro saying he can't block lasers? Apparently Jack is tankier and stronger than Kaido too based on feats.
You do realize that Queen broke Sanjis bones prior to Sanji getting the exoskeleton right? Meaning Vergo accomplished a similar feat. It wasn’t until Queen broke Sanjis bones that the exoskeleton was formed.

I’m not worth taking serious? You just don’t know what you’re talking about and can’t provide feats because Queen doesn’t have any that are better than the feats Jack has. I wouldn’t make this argument if he did.
 
You do realize that Queen broke Sanjis bones prior to Sanji getting the exoskeleton right? Meaning Vergo accomplished a similar feat. It wasn’t until Queen broke Sanjis bones that the exoskeleton was formed.

I’m not worth taking serious? You just don’t know what you’re talking about and can’t provide feats because Queen doesn’t have any that are better than the feats Jack has. I wouldn’t make this argument if he did.
You clearly didn't read the manga. Sanji's exoskeleton already unlocked before he got 2v1'd vs King and Queen he just didn't realize it.
 
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