Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1122 Spoilers Discussion

[Fujishiro]

Luffy’s haki is bursting down from the roof and knocking people out and Kaido CANNOT recognize it

When he returns to the roof he sees that it’s Luffy and yet mid way into the fight he keeps asking who he is

The alliance recognizes it pretty firmly.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

The alliance recognizes it pretty firmly.

The alliance is all questioning it and not sure

 

[Nadel]

Luffy’s haki is bursting down from the roof and knocking people out and Kaido CANNOT recognize it

When he returns to the roof he sees that it’s Luffy and yet mid way into the fight he keeps asking who he is

This panel is incredible, Kaido realized the condom fraud

 

[Cruxroux]

No? They all straight up said Luffy, they were suprised he was alive because he did die for a bit lol.

No Kaido asked who are you because Luffy was completely different from before, it was like he was a different person. And Vegapunk told us that Zoan alter the users personality.

Sanji - Luffy !?
Kidd - Huh !?
Law - !?
HYO - "Is that you Straw hat fellow"
Marco - Straw Hat !?.

Kaidou isn't dumb. He already know who that it.

But Kaidou Always brought Up who that is when it came to Haki.

 

[Fujishiro]

Luffy’s haki is bursting down from the roof and knocking people out and Kaido CANNOT recognize it

When he returns to the roof he sees that it’s Luffy and yet mid way into the fight he keeps asking who he is

Its not that he doesn’t recognise it, he thought Straw Hat was dead so he doesnt know what’s going on above. He then recognizes Luffy here:

Then they fight and then he asks Luffy who he is.
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Sanji - Luffy !?
Kidd - Huh !?
Law - !?
HYO - "Is that you Straw hat fellow"
Marco - Straw Hat !?.

Kaidou isn't dumb. He already know who that it.

But Kaidou Always brought Up who that is when it came to Haki.

The first panel came after the second panel.

The Straw Hats being surprised is because they thought he was dead. Literally all of them recognise him.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

The alliance recognizes it pretty firmly.

The alliance is questioning. That page of everyone reacting has questions marks on every one of them

I’m not saying Luffy haki isn’t somewhere in there mixed up with Nika haki… but there is a change… the alliance is QUESTIONING if it’s Luffy

And Kaido plainly doesn’t recognize it at all… even eve looks right at Luffy he doesn’t recognize his haki… despite being able to recognize Oden’s haki fucking 20 damn years after iden died… yet he looks right at Luffy and can’t read whether that’s Luffy’s haki he’s sensibg

 

[Cruxroux]

Its not that he doesn’t recognise it, he thought Straw Hat was dead so he doesnt know what’s going on above. He then recognizes Luffy here:

Then they fight and then he asks Luffy who he is.
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The first panel came after the second panel.

The Straw Hats being surprised is because they thought he was dead. Literally all of them recognise him.

If he already recognised luffy here then , it contradicts the very first panel it gives.

 

[Fujishiro]

The alliance is all questioning it and not sure

Its almost like he was dead or something.

 

[Wano Never Happened]

Yeah, I don't believe that Oda has intended something like Oden-haki-storage attacks at all, or that Goofy got Soy Boys haki fart juices through his hat or fruit, it's just hilarious that Oda has opened the door for the possiblity of it all.

You can't deny that Enma has traces of Oden's haki in it though - I mean, he used the sword for years, and it literally is designed to suck the haki out of you - but that's always been the case even before these spoilers. It's been made pretty clear that the vast majority of the haki used in Zoro's attacks were his own of course. Even if it was Oden's haki, it doesn't even matter later down the line, because the blade isn't black yet, and Zoro will have to do that on his own. Oden is a fraud compared to Zoro either way.

 

[Fujishiro]

If he already recognised luffy here then , it contradicts the very first panel it gives.

Not really, he thought Luffy was dead.

The alliance is questioning. That page of everyone reacting has questions marks on every one of them

I’m not saying Luffy haki isn’t somewhere in there mixed up with Nika haki… but there is a change… the alliance is QUESTIONING if it’s Luffy

And Kaido plainly doesn’t recognize it at all… even eve looks right at Luffy he doesn’t recognize his haki… despite being able to recognize Oden’s haki fucking 20 damn years after iden died… yet he looks right at Luffy and can’t read whether that’s Luffy’s haki he’s sensibg

The alliance is surprised that Luffy is alive. Nami literally is saying so he was alive after all.

 

[Nadel]

condom uses joyboy haki saved for 800 years.

 

[Fujishiro]

Because enma sucks out the users haki and Luffys df is giving him Nika haki battery

How can it do that when the fruit reincarnated somewhere else after Joyboy died? He cant have stored haki in his fruit because he’d need to be dead to do that.

 

[HA001]

If you mean the who the hell are you panel its simply because of his change of personality, he never said I don’t recognise this Haki or whose Haki is this.

Meanwhile everyone else recognised Luffys Haki but they didnt see him fight, Kaido did.

No. When g5 first happened. Kaido never once thought it was luffy

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

@Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @ZenZu @Sentinel @kekaro @Mr. Reloaded

When Luffy resurrected in G5 this was the reaction of everyone who didnt know G5, Sanji,Hyogoro, Marco ,etc all felt and recognised Luffys Haki.

Zuneisha reacted to G5s drums not the Haki hence her comment about Joyboy.

Ergo Luffys Haki is his own, not Joyboy.

People are mostly just memeing the joyboy thing.

 

[Wano Never Happened]

Also it's hard to see statements like, "a zoan fruit has a will of its own", with the Nika fruit being apparently extra-special-smart, evading specific people, and then see Soy Boy doing haki storage for some moment centuries in the future.

Vegashit can already do a lot with Zoan fruits, who's to say that Ancient Kingdom tech can't infuse fruits with someone's haki?
(Nonetheless, that's not to say that Goofy is just coasting off of the fruit and exclusively gets all of his haki from it, lol.)

 

[Fujishiro]

condom uses joyboy haki saved for 800 years.

God you are so damn cringe. An absolute waste of space.

 

[Cruxroux]

People are mostly just memeing the joyboy thing.

Aren't you the one who was memeing Zoro and Oden Haki.?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

He then recognizes Luffy here:

Then after this he then goes back to questioning if it is Luffy

See that’s the thing, Kaido cannot sense that it’s Luffy’s haki coming from the rooftop… despite being capable of identifying haki

Then when he goes to the rooftop, he can Visually see that it’s Luffy yes… But he still doubts it’s him

Get it? Kaido has CoO… CoO allows you to see the literal spirits inside of people… like their literal fucking souls… you can see that shit with Coo… Kaido is looking directly at Luffy and can see that it’s Luffy’s yet HE HAS COO AND STILL DOUBTS THAT ITS LUFFY

He repeatedly questions whether this is Luffy despite having the CoO that can see your fucking soul… So something about Luffy has changed so much that Kaido’s soul seeing CoO cannot recognize him

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

A mosquito sucked Sanji's blood.

The CoC is gone, damn.

 

[Fujishiro]

No. When g5 first happened. Kaido never once thought it was luffy

But everyone else did, Kaido thought he was dead.

We are told that Awakened Zoan warp the users personality to an extreme degree, perhaps Kaido with his better Observation Haki couldn’t recognise Luffys presence at first because of that.