Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1122 Spoilers Discussion

[Bakura]

I personally have Garp has the strongest of the old Era but that's just me

It'll be an extreme dif fight but Garp has shown better Haki and I think he's the overall better hand to hand combatant

Damn we found a kindred spirit @Xione now kiss.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

@Fujishiro See like we got @ZenZu claiming Borsalino > Prime Garp.. @JoNdule thinking he's a bum that BM mid-diffs (:D)... @TheKnightOfTheSea thinking Prime Kaido - Prime Garp is a convo.

None of that bothers me. I was just giving troll reply to a troll meme that you posted. Obviously Garp wouldn't "clap" Newgate since they're same levels even for me.

tbh i can see that take aging poorly depending on how big the gap between Kaido and the old legends is.

 

[Xione]

I personally have Garp has the strongest of the old Era but that's just me

It'll be an extreme dif fight but Garp has shown better Haki and I think he's the overall better hand to hand combatant

They underrating what it means to be a Monkey D.


Smh.

Once his son shows he's top 1 right now, it's over for Roger & Newgate fans.

ALTHOUGH, Kong might be the strongest who knows.

 

[JoNdule]

you're 100% right in that case. I am of the belief that Whitebeard ended up betraying Rocks during that fight however, or at the very least a lot of the Rocks Pirates abandoned Xebec during the end/weren't ko'd.

it was more of confusion at learning of a new unfamiliar enemy. Teach knew very well who Rayleigh was. Apples to oranges comparison.


time for bed

The Pirate King's right hand is not below a member of the Pirate King's crew.

Except Oden wa several gonna take his spot
He was borrowed.
Kuzan didn't even take Burgess and Lafitte spots I guess they're above Kuzan in power right?

So Rayleigh and Scopper are dumb to 2v1 Non Prime Oden if Ray is above Oden ?

Shiki lost 1v2 cause no marine could beat him 1v1
BM lost 1v2 cause Kid and law alone can't win 1v1
Ray and Scopper literally hype Oden before saying we should gang up on him

 

[ZenZu]

@Fujishiro See like we got @ZenZu claiming Borsalino > Prime Garp.. @JoNdule thinking he's a bum that BM mid-diffs (:D)... @TheKnightOfTheSea thinking Prime Kaido - Prime Garp is a convo.

None of that bothers me. I was just giving troll reply to a troll meme that you posted. Obviously Garp wouldn't "clap" Newgate since they're same levels even for me.

Tbf I never said The Logia Trio were stronger just now, I just said Garp's not stronger than them. We don't know for sure. I have Kizaru and Kuzan ~ Fleet Admiral Akainu until proven otherwise, and I don't see what places Garp above that either.

What I will say though quite confidently is FA Akainu > FA Sengoku. Take that for data.

 

[Bakura]

I personally have Garp has the strongest of the old Era but that's just me

It'll be an extreme dif fight but Garp has shown better Haki and I think he's the overall better hand to hand combatant

What makes you think Garp has better haki then WB btw.

 

[Yoho]

Stronger then Roger?

Barely but yeah

For me if I was to rank the old gen it go

Garp
Roger
WB
Ray
Sengoku

I consider Xebec the gen before they really came into power

Kaido and BM fit more in with the Shanks generation imo

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

HIM was the strongest on God Valley, let's make things clear

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

You're such a tool dude, you haven't been honest with yourself for years now, this place has turned you into a full time troll. Can't wait for Ray's bounty so you can start coping about that one too.

Man I WISH he was just a troll.

 

[Bakura]

Barely but yeah

For me if I was to rank the old gen it go

Garp
Roger
WB
Ray
Sengoku

Team up with @Xione and 2vs2 @ZenZu and @JoNdule

 

[ZenZu]

Bounty means nothing when you don't have the feats for it
Rayleigh is bound to have a high bounty
You think I care ?

Posthawk has 3.5B and still running from marine fleets and is afraid to fight Yono per his own words

So saying Rayleigh couldn't make Roger pirates beat WbP, shiki fleet, Bmp is dishonesty?

if so I accept cause you won't ever change the manga facts
Rayleigh wanted to 2v1 Non Prime Oden
"Yonko level"

You fell off like 2 years ago I can't even lie. You used to be more genuine, now you're just caught up with constant rage baiting without any heart behind it.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

@Xione how do you rank the Gorosei?

what's your opinion on their numbering?

I think the strength/relevance order is by planetary, but I am very curious about the numbering

 

[JoNdule]

You never look at the bigger picture.

You can't just nitpick an instance where you need to make several consecutive assumptions to reach your conclusion and then disregard everything else that has happened.

You will wank super vague and obscure portrayal for your favorite characters (i.e. "Three Great Captains" "CoC Specialists" "Rivals of Great Pirates") but then for characters you don't rate, you just pick some really random anti-feat (or what appears to be an anti-feat in your mind) and stick with it forever. At least be fair and choose one way or the other

There's no bigger picture

Roger pirates failed to beat their rivals
They were gonna lose to shiki fodder fleets for Christ's sake

Explain to me how 2 Yonko level dude + 1 top tier + a crew of high tiers /vets were losing to shiki fodder fleet

You guys claim Prime Ray can solo BMP or WbP by himself while manga tells us Roger, Ray and co were losing to shiki and his fleet before the storm

You see how you are delusional ?

Prime Ray can't solo any Yonko crew and he's not yonko level
That's why no top Pirate hypes Rayleigh

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Team up with @Xione and 2vs2 @ZenZu and @JoNdule

Funny enough ZenZu's against JoNdule too lol. Ndule has the power to say shit so stupid that literally anyone will call him out on his bs

 

[Xione]

tbh i can see that take aging poorly depending on how big the gap between Kaido and the old legends is.

I mean personally I do feel that Dracule/Saka/Fuji/Dragon/2-armed Shanks/Teach at their peaks would be ones from the mid-gen above the old gen. But even then from those 6, I'm only confident about Dragon being above the old legends since he transcends the Admirals/Yonko.

Honestly gone be hard to make a concrete assessment of Old Gen vs Mid Gen, until the Final War. But I also see Kaido weaker than the above 6 mentioned, whereas I assume you view Kaido as the superior one (though I think Kaido vs Garp is just a bad matchup, due to the Kaido's enormous size vs Garp's insane mobility).

 

[Yoho]

What makes you think Garp has better haki then WB btw.

Really just what they both showcased

I'll give WB the leniency of Haki wasn't to prevalent In pre skip but even still

You gotta remember Garp was all hands so he had to put more focus into his haki

And Garps Galaxy impact showed us more haki in both power and control than anything we've seen from whitebeard

 

[Bakura]

 

[ZenZu]

HIM was the strongest on God Valley, let's make things clear

Saturn had the most aura, possibly more than anyone in the entire manga

Look how Oda massacred my boy

 

[Xione]

@Xione how do you rank the Gorosei?

what's your opinion on their numbering?

I think the strength/relevance order is by planetary, but I am very curious about the numbering

Among each other or vs the lower-realm top tiers?

 

[Bakura]

Really just what they both showcased

I'll give WB the leniency of Haki wasn't to prevalent In pre skip but even still

You gotta remember Garp was all hands so he had to put more focus into his haki

And Garps Galaxy impact showed us more haki in both power and control than anything we've seen from whitebeard

Haki was invisible in Marineford lol. Also WB was sick we are talking about their primes here.