General & Others Zorostans really do feel obsessed with the need to try and slander Sanji

[langitbarat]

I used to be a Sanji fan but not no more... Egghead ended it. Why can't Sanji be serious and badass like Zoro? Why is he still a useless unserious gag most the time? Why does TOEI have it out for him so badly?!

He should have kept the Raid Suit and turned evil.

Because different things are used for different purposes. Having variety usually is good for storytelling purposes.

 

[Saber]

it's OVER for the sanji fandom
no more big names like true god moe, pedxi and sanji d goat carrying it, they're all banned
most of the top zorohaters were never legbois anyway!
deal with it

 

[Rej]

My gosh this mofo is obssesed with making nonesensical threads how many he has done

Morons that refuse to discuss the manga properly but rather instead discuss fanbases and other outside aspects.

And then threads like these get fueled to 2 or more pages, shows how redundant this community has become in discussions.

That's why I have the custom title that I have and I proudly stand by it, by my unfiltered opinion and how I see this forum.

Anyway report this thread for bait thread and keep on moving.

 

[Oliver]

So do you remember how dumb it looked when Zoro fans were trying to promote the idea of him killing Kaido?

That is exactly how Lanji fans have looked for well over 10 years now defending the 100's of L's Sanji has taken and trying to pretend he's Zoro's rival or pretending he has future sight because he dodged a jellybean, or pretending like Vergo/Doflamingo didn't utterly humiliate him, or every time Lanji sneak attacks people they pretend like it's a speed blitz but when someone hits Lanji they ignore it or make a million excuses.

Your fandom has a serious inferiority complex which makes it very easy for Zoro fans to make fun of you.

 

[Cruxroux]

Not gonna lie but , I don't see zoro fans poking anyone until they are poked.
Twitter is a shithole but here is quite different. Majority of fans already know they are in majority here and will dominate the argument. There's like 5 person on 1 person ass if some slander is there.

like take the recent chapter discussion only. No Zoro yet thread moved only due to zoro.

 

[DonWick]

I know right? I can't believe they think Zoro will defeat Mihawk instead of Sanji. I've never seen such ridiculous levels of downplay

Although I agree with you. The same could be said about Zoro fans with Luffy’s villains. Kaido is a prime example.

 

[JoNdule]

they have always started shit with Sanji fans then turn around and act like it's Sanji fans who start shit when they retaliate.

or when they over hype Zoro and someone refutes that they act like its bashing


they have always tried to downplay Sanji and his opponents refusing to accept that Sanji and Zoro have and always will be close in strength
dressrosa Zoro extreme diffs dressrosa sanji

post wano Zoro and Sanji are close in strength it doesn't having adv coc doesn't automatically put you way above anyone who doesn't have it

post wano Zoro extreme diffs post wano Sanji

( adv coc doesn't change that for it only matters if you hit and sanji is way faster then zoro
Zoro has adv coc Sanji has his own version of awakening


( and going but kaido said wont refute this statement

eos Zoro and sanji are close in strength
it doesn't matter that Sanji doesn't have a dream reliant on strength

Zoro and Sanji being close in strength didn't change after the timeskip

seriously there is some really weird logic when they try to argue that Sanji getting the worf effect and losing t odoffy etc somehow put him below Zoro just because Zoro didn't get a tough fight till wano.


Zoro didn't show anything in dressrosa that said he would have done better ( Zoro and Sanji both got stronger after dressrosa this happens all the time they get stronger after each arc the but training or but the time is irrelevant)


oda being willing to put Sanji in positions where he doesn't look cool aren't refutations to the fact they are close in strength.

egghead island Zoro wouldn't have done better.


what Zoro did against Venus isn't any different then what sani did except Zoro focused on his strength while Sanji focused on speed ( Venus noticed Zoro and turned to block while Sanji landed a hit ( and going but bonney helped him when he got bit is not a refutations and bonneys age is irrelevant)

but Sanji got hit by Saturn's eye attack which drew blood against g5 Luffy while he wasn't using exoskeleton and he just got knocked down ( it was Saturn's paralyzing trick which stopped Sanji.




not t o mention they seem to think things are shameful when they aren't like Sanji calling for robins help which shows character growth he is willing to ask for help when he needs it which shows his growth from enies lobby when he knew he couldn't fight kalifa but stayed there instead of asking for help.
( some guy tried to claim that if nami was in danger from a woman he wouldn't help her which is dumb he doesn't need to hit a woman to save nami from one .


their logic is since oda is willing to put Sanji in bad looking situations that somehow put Zoro way above him when it doesn't Zoro never had a feat that showed that while Luffy has had tons of feats which puts him way above Zoro.



Zoro being on the rooftop is irrelvant he got kicked off it and had an ultra Regen drug to then fight king who is relative to queen ( Sanji outstat king in every category besides durability ( Sanji would be able to beat him just by waiting for when he turns the flames off ( Lucci himself pointed out that the trick will allow them to make headway so you can't go he can just not turn his flames off ( even if that was a thing Sanji is still close to Zoro in strength

it was kid and law and Luffy who fought the yonko in the end showing Zoro wasn't at that level.
rooftop fight started off as a worst gen fight ( zoros weaponry allowed him to held off the attack for a second before law saved him ( and pointing out that law saved him from tanking the combined attack isn't downplay nor is pointing out that Zoro held it off with his swords for a second isn't downplay


one thing they try to mark their desperation is repeatedly deny the parallels and narrative support that shows them as close in strength by going but they are just standing together





it goes to more then just power scaling they try to insult his very character like recently claiming Sanji wants to own slaves by using a pic of Sanji wanting to free a slave

they act like that refutations is just desperate one when no they lack reading comprehension if they try to use that panel as hi mwanting to own slaves


or they claim he is a pedo when he isn't

they have to take things out of context ot try to use a picture of him being attracted to a legal adult ( pudding ) as him being a pedo)

or claim he betrayed Luffy in wci when he was protecting them ( he didn't lack faith in luffys strength Zoro himself pointed out that they couldn't fight two yonko at the same time and Luffy wouldn't have been able to protectzeff.)

Sanji has all the traits of a conqueror white beard didn't want to conquer anything so there is no reasonable refuation to saying Sanji cant have conquerors

zorostans loved to claim Zoro would have it because rayleigh had it so you u cant refute the statement.


and no Zoro getting a fight with Lucci ( who Luffy stomped and destroyed ) while Sanji didn't get a 1v1 fight like that is irrelevant


that argument is desperation

( also zorostans have outright ignored the difference between blunt attacks and blades to try and over hype Zoro and downplay Luffy or Sanji or made other out of context claims ( like bringing a picture of Lucci right after his fight with Zoro and a picture of Lucci sometime after his fight with Luffy (when he is an awakened zoan and would heal from the blunt attacks Luffy put him through)





or going but Sanji needed more hits to take down queen ( who is a brachiosaurus and is quite tanky or not t o mention trying to downplay queen and Sanji speed by trying to claim Sanji was invisible only to queen ( when besides the fact oda himself said it was him turning invisible through speed queen had no problem keeping track of Marco and king ) claiming queen being fat means he wouldn't know about speed which is an idiotic take queen being fat has nothing to do with his speed or being able to keep track of an opponent ( Zoro was held back dealing with enma while Sanji had to deal with an emotional crisis hindering his performance.

when you fight with a sword you will need land less hits then a guy kicking would .

Ruls number 1 :
Don't take any zoro fan seriously because most of them are delusional in their takes.
Rule number 2 :
Don't stress yourself much
Rule number 3 : remember Rule number 1 whenever you see them writing stuff like "zoro mid diffs Sanji" "zoro is equal to Lufy"

 

[DonWick]

It’s true that Zoro fans are obsessed with over hyping him and downplaying any character that doesn’t directly or indirectly hype Zoro.

However, Sanji fans overhype every fucking thing that Sanji does. They twist feats to fit a narrative. They hype weak ass characters because Sanji fought them. They ignore all the times he gets shitted on and try to justify it.

Honestly as much as Zoro fans are annoying a lot of times their arguments make sense. Sanji fans are delusional as fuck.

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Yeah. At this point it's basically just Luffy fans vs Zoro fans lol.

As it should be Sanji has continuously proven that he does not belong in the conversation.

 

[Aknolagon]

they have always started shit with Sanji fans then turn around and act like it's Sanji fans who start shit when they retaliate.

or when they over hype Zoro and someone refutes that they act like its bashing


they have always tried to downplay Sanji and his opponents refusing to accept that Sanji and Zoro have and always will be close in strength
dressrosa Zoro extreme diffs dressrosa sanji

post wano Zoro and Sanji are close in strength it doesn't having adv coc doesn't automatically put you way above anyone who doesn't have it

post wano Zoro extreme diffs post wano Sanji

( adv coc doesn't change that for it only matters if you hit and sanji is way faster then zoro
Zoro has adv coc Sanji has his own version of awakening


( and going but kaido said wont refute this statement

eos Zoro and sanji are close in strength
it doesn't matter that Sanji doesn't have a dream reliant on strength

Zoro and Sanji being close in strength didn't change after the timeskip

seriously there is some really weird logic when they try to argue that Sanji getting the worf effect and losing t odoffy etc somehow put him below Zoro just because Zoro didn't get a tough fight till wano.


Zoro didn't show anything in dressrosa that said he would have done better ( Zoro and Sanji both got stronger after dressrosa this happens all the time they get stronger after each arc the but training or but the time is irrelevant)


oda being willing to put Sanji in positions where he doesn't look cool aren't refutations to the fact they are close in strength.

egghead island Zoro wouldn't have done better.


what Zoro did against Venus isn't any different then what sani did except Zoro focused on his strength while Sanji focused on speed ( Venus noticed Zoro and turned to block while Sanji landed a hit ( and going but bonney helped him when he got bit is not a refutations and bonneys age is irrelevant)

but Sanji got hit by Saturn's eye attack which drew blood against g5 Luffy while he wasn't using exoskeleton and he just got knocked down ( it was Saturn's paralyzing trick which stopped Sanji.




not t o mention they seem to think things are shameful when they aren't like Sanji calling for robins help which shows character growth he is willing to ask for help when he needs it which shows his growth from enies lobby when he knew he couldn't fight kalifa but stayed there instead of asking for help.
( some guy tried to claim that if nami was in danger from a woman he wouldn't help her which is dumb he doesn't need to hit a woman to save nami from one .


their logic is since oda is willing to put Sanji in bad looking situations that somehow put Zoro way above him when it doesn't Zoro never had a feat that showed that while Luffy has had tons of feats which puts him way above Zoro.



Zoro being on the rooftop is irrelvant he got kicked off it and had an ultra Regen drug to then fight king who is relative to queen ( Sanji outstat king in every category besides durability ( Sanji would be able to beat him just by waiting for when he turns the flames off ( Lucci himself pointed out that the trick will allow them to make headway so you can't go he can just not turn his flames off ( even if that was a thing Sanji is still close to Zoro in strength

it was kid and law and Luffy who fought the yonko in the end showing Zoro wasn't at that level.
rooftop fight started off as a worst gen fight ( zoros weaponry allowed him to held off the attack for a second before law saved him ( and pointing out that law saved him from tanking the combined attack isn't downplay nor is pointing out that Zoro held it off with his swords for a second isn't downplay


one thing they try to mark their desperation is repeatedly deny the parallels and narrative support that shows them as close in strength by going but they are just standing together





it goes to more then just power scaling they try to insult his very character like recently claiming Sanji wants to own slaves by using a pic of Sanji wanting to free a slave

they act like that refutations is just desperate one when no they lack reading comprehension if they try to use that panel as hi mwanting to own slaves


or they claim he is a pedo when he isn't

they have to take things out of context ot try to use a picture of him being attracted to a legal adult ( pudding ) as him being a pedo)

or claim he betrayed Luffy in wci when he was protecting them ( he didn't lack faith in luffys strength Zoro himself pointed out that they couldn't fight two yonko at the same time and Luffy wouldn't have been able to protectzeff.)

Sanji has all the traits of a conqueror white beard didn't want to conquer anything so there is no reasonable refuation to saying Sanji cant have conquerors

zorostans loved to claim Zoro would have it because rayleigh had it so you u cant refute the statement.


and no Zoro getting a fight with Lucci ( who Luffy stomped and destroyed ) while Sanji didn't get a 1v1 fight like that is irrelevant


that argument is desperation

( also zorostans have outright ignored the difference between blunt attacks and blades to try and over hype Zoro and downplay Luffy or Sanji or made other out of context claims ( like bringing a picture of Lucci right after his fight with Zoro and a picture of Lucci sometime after his fight with Luffy (when he is an awakened zoan and would heal from the blunt attacks Luffy put him through)





or going but Sanji needed more hits to take down queen ( who is a brachiosaurus and is quite tanky or not t o mention trying to downplay queen and Sanji speed by trying to claim Sanji was invisible only to queen ( when besides the fact oda himself said it was him turning invisible through speed queen had no problem keeping track of Marco and king ) claiming queen being fat means he wouldn't know about speed which is an idiotic take queen being fat has nothing to do with his speed or being able to keep track of an opponent ( Zoro was held back dealing with enma while Sanji had to deal with an emotional crisis hindering his performance.

when you fight with a sword you will need land less hits then a guy kicking would .

Says the guy who has 80% posts about zoro related stuffs.

 

[hedera__helix]

Stop bitching damn

 

[Monkey D Theories]

What is Zorostan?

sounds like a country in central asia

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Ruls number 1 :
Don't take any zoro fan seriously because most of them are delusional in their takes.
Rule number 2 :
Don't stress yourself much
Rule number 3 : remember Rule number 1 whenever you see them writing stuff like "zoro mid diffs Sanji" "zoro is equal to Lufy"

I don't even think Zoro haters think Sanji pushes Zoro to mid diff for example @DonWick one of the biggest Zoro downplayers agrees Zoro low diffs Sanji.

Imo it isn't even a low diff..like a clean blitz and one shot with next to no effort. Gap has never been this huge.

 

[DonWick]

I don't even think Zoro haters think Sanji pushes Zoro to mid diff for example @DonWick one of the biggest Zoro downplayers agrees Zoro low diffs Sanji.

Imo it isn't even a low diff..like a clean blitz and one shot with next to no effort. Gap has never been this huge.

I don't even think Zoro haters think Sanji pushes Zoro to mid diff for example @DonWick one of the biggest Zoro downplayers agrees Zoro low diffs Sanji.

Imo it isn't even a low diff..like a clean blitz and one shot with next to no effort. Gap has never been this huge.

I love Zoro I don’t down play him at all I’m just realistic. But I agree for the most part.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

I love Zoro I don’t down play him at all I’m just realistic. But I agree for the most part.

Can't be saying Shanks > EoS Zoro and call yourself a Zoro fan lol
A lot Sanji fans even agree with EoS Zoro > Shanks.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

@DonWick is just a Luffy wanker but he seems to appreciate Zoro.
His Shanks take is related to his Luffy wank.
At least that's what I got from his takes overall.
@ShishioIsBack

 

[Malio]

Nobody is reading all that. Cry me a fucking river. Everyone mocks characters in here.

 

[DonWick]

Can't be saying Shanks > EoS Zoro and call yourself a Zoro fan lol
A lot Sanji fans even agree with EoS Zoro > Shanks.

Sanji fans agree with a ton of dumb shit on the daily lol that’s not a good barometer.

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@DonWick is just a Luffy wanker but he seems to appreciate Zoro.
His Shanks take is related to his Luffy wank.
At least that's what I got from his takes overall.
@ShishioIsBack

What Shanks takes do I have? Outside of Shanks > Mihawk?

 

[Peroroncino]

didnt you just made a thread giving zoro's dream to sanji?

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Sanji fans agree with a ton of dumb shit on the daily lol that’s not a good barometer.

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What Shanks takes do I have? Outside of Shanks > Mihawk?

Shanks > EOS Zoro is wild!
I'm not even sure Shanks > current Zoro so EOS Zoro mid diffs

 

[DonWick]

Shanks > EOS Zoro is wild!
I'm not even sure Shanks > current Zoro so EOS Zoro mid diffs

I’m going to assume that your trolling