General & Others ONE PIECE DEBUNK : "Luffy is the choosen one"
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now we are at the part where you deny the manga huh?
Why shading Luffy ? Why not at least draw one of his eyes or his smile ? Is Luffy really destroying things or did she just saw him standing in front of the fire and interpreted it in a bad way ?
We must be careful with prophecies..
He is the chosen one
- he was the one oden wrote about
- he is the one Roger waited for
- he is the second coming of joyboy
- he has every special ability that few are said to have in this series
- he was the person destined to be pk
He is a stereotypical chosen 1 type character. It doesn't make luffy a bad character as he still works for most of his abilities but he is a chosen 1 type character. If luffy wasn't a chosen 1 he'd have already gotten himself killed plenty of times.
- he was the one oden wrote about
- he is the one Roger waited for
- he is the second coming of joyboy
- he has every special ability that few are said to have in this series
- he was the person destined to be pk
He is a stereotypical chosen 1 type character. It doesn't make luffy a bad character as he still works for most of his abilities but he is a chosen 1 type character. If luffy wasn't a chosen 1 he'd have already gotten himself killed plenty of times.
1. There's nothing to debunk luffy is that. Unless you are changing the manga luffy is the second coming of joboy, he was the one oden wrote about, and he is the 1 Roger was waiting for. This is predestined stuff that was accounted for before luffy was even born. He is a chosen 1 type character. Prophecies are one of the core points that make a chosen 1 character because only that specific person could do what ever was prophesied.
2. Luffy is literally the only one with someone that can read the poneglyphs. He's the only one that can find the op nobody else can. Who will be pk but luffy? It's not even a question at this point luffy is the only real shot to find op. The only other 2 are shanks which would kill luffy and can't force robin to join his crew since he isn't that type of character. So luffy would have infinite tries to over come shanks till he does since shanks does at the end of the day want the best for luffy. The other is bb but if he does beat luffy robin would never cooperate with him and he'd have to rely on pudding to maybe one day be able to read the poneglyphs which may never even happen. Everything has happened even Luffy's favor including even his birth family and childhood friends. If that's not destined idk what is.
2. Luffy is literally the only one with someone that can read the poneglyphs. He's the only one that can find the op nobody else can. Who will be pk but luffy? It's not even a question at this point luffy is the only real shot to find op. The only other 2 are shanks which would kill luffy and can't force robin to join his crew since he isn't that type of character. So luffy would have infinite tries to over come shanks till he does since shanks does at the end of the day want the best for luffy. The other is bb but if he does beat luffy robin would never cooperate with him and he'd have to rely on pudding to maybe one day be able to read the poneglyphs which may never even happen. Everything has happened even Luffy's favor including even his birth family and childhood friends. If that's not destined idk what is.
That’s the real problem: Luffy was the “enemy of the gods” by virtue of being who he was, now he’s such by virtue of a destiny that has been bestowed on him: nothing he does feels anymore spontaneous as he seems more like an agent of destiny rather than an individual with agency. Now he is Nika more than he is Luffy.
But yeah, I guess Ovid, Shakespeare and Tolstoy are fuming in the afterlife, looking at Oda outdoing them…
But yeah, I guess Ovid, Shakespeare and Tolstoy are fuming in the afterlife, looking at Oda outdoing them…
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This is not a thing. Luffy simply reminds people of Joyboy, that's all.
I debunked the prophecies. Not a good argument.
No. Blackbeard has Pudding. And anyone with the voice of all thing should be able to do it.
In fact, there are high chances that Luffy does not find the One Piece first.
He didn't choose Luffy. He trusted Luffy and simply shared his hat with him. Shanks did not bring Luffy into any kind of specific environment. Also, there are big chances that Shanks do not know anything about the hat or Joy Boy.
Dragon
I would could that a simple narrative circoumstance. Going by that argument, you could say that Buggy is the chosen one because he managed to become an emperor and have constant strikes of luck on the grand line.
That could be the fruit helping Luffy. It would be logical with the concept of the will of the fruit. This still does not make him the narrative "the chosen one" . Simply the one that the fruit chose to rely on. Just like Luffy was choosen by the Strawhats to follow him.
Just stop mentionning my mental health. Or I will have to call a mod.
Yes.. but the lack of shading on Luffy feels strange to me.
Just a gut feeling. Surely nothing.
I debunked the prophecies. Not a good argument.
No. Blackbeard has Pudding. And anyone with the voice of all thing should be able to do it.
In fact, there are high chances that Luffy does not find the One Piece first.
He didn't choose Luffy. He trusted Luffy and simply shared his hat with him. Shanks did not bring Luffy into any kind of specific environment. Also, there are big chances that Shanks do not know anything about the hat or Joy Boy.
Dragon
I would could that a simple narrative circoumstance. Going by that argument, you could say that Buggy is the chosen one because he managed to become an emperor and have constant strikes of luck on the grand line.
That could be the fruit helping Luffy. It would be logical with the concept of the will of the fruit. This still does not make him the narrative "the chosen one" . Simply the one that the fruit chose to rely on. Just like Luffy was choosen by the Strawhats to follow him.
Just stop mentionning my mental health. Or I will have to call a mod.
Yes.. but the lack of shading on Luffy feels strange to me.
Just a gut feeling. Surely nothing.
No chosen one here, a completely normal event
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Just like Luffy being the only one with a body made of rubber and able to beat Enel
It would be pointless to call a moderator because I didn't really do anything bad. I just mentioned a medical condition without any negative nuance one or two times, before you even got so worked up about it and told me not to talk about it. You on the other hand constantly treat the forum people like ignorant retards for disagreeing with you, so if you like we can play this snitch game but I advice you to just stop sending me long replies because I can't be bothered to read them.